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to think you "PTA mummies" will love this and it was definitely written by a MN-etter

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ChickenVindaloo2 · 31/03/2017 21:09

Facebook post: (disclaimer - I am neither a mother nor a PTA member!). "Eleventy billion" --> written by one of us MN lot!
Here goes...

So, shall we talk about the dreaded ‘PTA Mummies’? God, they’re annoying bitches, aren’t they, with their endless raffle tickets, and coffee mornings, and Race Nights, and Wine and Cheese Nights.

Actually, the ‘Let’s Kick The PTA Mummies’ thing gets right on this Mummy’s tits. They’re easy targets, aren’t they, the PTA Mummies? Bossy, smug, AND they think they’re important just because they are allowed in the staffroom sometimes. Mummy used to think the same about them, until she foolishly (drunkenly) agreed to join the PTA, and then somehow ended up spending two years as the PTA Chair, until her soul was crushed and all faith in humanity sucked out of her. So this is what it’s really like being a PTA Mummy versus the myths about the Tyrant Queen Of The Raffle Tickets:

Yes, the PTA mummies are quite pally with some of the teachers. After Mrs Harrison and the PTA Mummies have had to minister to little Olly Johnson at the school fete because his mummy thinks PTA events basically only exist to provide her with cheap childcare at the weekends, so she dropped him off clutching a fiver and she swanned off to the gym, finally returning half an hour after the fete finished, by which time Olly had spent the lot on the tuckshop and was puking the rainbow, a certain solidarity is born. And yes, the PTA Mummies are a tiny bit smug about being allowed into the staffroom sometimes, which let’s face it, was like a portal to another world when you were at school, so it is quite exciting to be allowed in and it is literally the ONLY perk of being on the PTA, even if it turns out to be a bit shit really and very beige, with uncomfortable chairs and unflattering lighting and a lingering scent of bad coffee and broken dreams.

The PTA Mummies send eleventy billion passive aggressive emails. Yes. Yes, they do. They send eleventy billion emails because they are desperately trying to persuade someone, anyone, to volunteer at the event they are organising to raise funds for the school- funds to pay for school trips, and computers, and equipment, and books, and all the other things the school needs, but can’t afford with their limited budget. School trips, computers, equipment and books that everybody’s children benefit from, not just the PTA Mummies’ children. And the emails ARE quite passive aggressive, it’s true, because it is frowned upon to send emails saying “FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WILL SOME OF YOU LAZY FUCKERS STEP UP AND OFFER TO HELP” because they’re good, the PTA Mummies, they have yards of bunting and staple guns and they’re not afraid to use them, and they’re absolute whizzes at transforming a municipal hall into Santa’s Grotto or a cocktail bar using only fairy lights and sellotape, but they cannot run an event for 100 people with only three volunteers, and believe you me, they have heard ALL the excuses about why other parents can’t possibly help, including this Mummy’s personal favourite of “I can’t be expected to spare the time to help with that, I have TWO CHILDREN, you know!” If every parent in every school volunteered to help at one event a year, which probably would actually involve no more than two or three hours of their time A YEAR, then the PTA Mummies would probably send a lot fewer emails, and the emails they did send would be much happier.

Oh, and they’re a bit bloody perfect too, aren’t they, the PTA Mummies? Rocking up at the school barbecue with their vats of homemade houmous, or boxes and boxes of cakes at the coffee mornings? Really, who are they trying to show off to? Or, maybe it’s because all the vegetarians moaned at last year’s barbecue about being fobbed off with boring veggie burgers again, and so the PTA Mummies tried to come up with a more interesting alternative, but houmous is expensive and every event is run on a shoestring, and so they found a cheap recipe to make your own houmous, but they did it last night when they were pissed and now their whole kitchen is sprayed with houmous and they are hungover to fuck and will be chipping houmous off the ceiling for months because actually, they’re only human, and as they smile brightly at you, all they can think of is a medicinal pork pie.

And remember why they’re trying to flog the raffle tickets and pushing the coffee mornings and asking for tombola prizes- it’s for your kids. Remember as well that most people these days work at least part time, if not full time, and these dreadful PTA Mummies are trying to fit the fundraising for the school in around their real jobs and families. Their own children wander abandoned round the PTA events- their mums never see them win the Hook-A-Duck or the Beat the Goalie, because their mums are in the kitchen washing up 200 tea cups, and lying to the treasurer that absolutely they have done a risk assessment, and answering everybody’s questions about what needs done next and what goes where and who’s doing what, and thinking that if they ever, EVER see another fucking raffle ticket again in their life, they will go stark staring mad!

So, PTA Mummies- you are absolute fucking superstars. You help keep the schools running and provide a better education for everyone’s kids. So buy their raffle tickets, and give them a nod of recognition for all they do, along with all the other people who volunteer in schools in other ways. You are all awesome, and fuck anyone who says otherwise. You. Are. Legends. Xxxx

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TesticlesInTheBlender · 01/04/2017 07:47

Oh do sod-off with your clique nonsense - just another excuse as to why you won't get involved.

BertrandRussell · 01/04/2017 07:48

"Nothing to add apart from the phrase "pta mummies" is toe curlingly embarrassing"
Yes it is. You do realise that it is being used ironically?
(It was in inverted commas at the beginning in case you missed it) Because it is one of the least offensive of the terms people like you use to disparage people like me?

TinfoilHattie · 01/04/2017 07:53

I always say the same thing on these threads to all the people who would LOVE to help but have children, work shifts, don't like meetings, etc etc.

Our PTA has dozens of ad-hic jobs which need doing now and again. We need someone to run our Twitter feed (not a massive committment, 10 minutes a day tops). We need someone to write newsletters. We need someone to email companies asking for raffle prizes. Someone to store donations for the tombola in their garage/shed/spare room. Someone to trawl the web looking for new fundraising ideas we've overlooked. Someone to research the health & safety implications of having ponies at school for the summer fete.

If all these "far too busy" people told us that for whatever reason they couldn't make it to meetings but wanted to help, we'd chew their arm off. We would be so happy to have someone or a group who could take on these tasks. We're not exactly rushed over in the stampede though.

Sneering seems to be the default position though - sneering at the cliquey, up themselves PTA members, sneering at the blogger.

TesticlesInTheBlender · 01/04/2017 07:54

Jiggy - I think the problem you have is the lack of experience amongst the PTA with regard to SEN. And that is why we need people like you to join.

But we need ideas - just saying can we do something for children with SEN isn't enough, as we don't have any the expertise to know what to do.

You need to bring the ideas with you as we don't know what is suitable. You could be the link for the SENCO as you already have the relationship.

You need to keep attending and get to know people and become a part of it - we welcome new people with open arms, we all work full time and and we need all the help we can get.

BigGreenOlives · 01/04/2017 07:56

All these people saying they'd rather just give £20/£30/£50 at the start of the year, why don't you do that? Tell the person who is sending you the emails on the first day of term that here is a cheque for £50 & that will be your contribution to fundraising for the year. If enough of you did so there'd be no need to hold discos, xmas fairs etc.

Have you considered that some people/children might enjoy community events? People who don't have any family nearby or whose partners work every weekend and so having something to do on a Sunday with their children is a treat?

GoodyGoodyGumdrops · 01/04/2017 07:57

I've been involved in 3 primary schools and 3 PTAs. One was open-armed, inclusive, friendly, and very well-run. One was cringingly cliquey. One was a mixture of the two styles, with some cliquey groups and some friendly groups. What all 3 had in common:

The same 10-20 mums doing everything. And, yes, it was always the mum. The only men who did anything were OHs or dads of PTA mums, and then only ever 'manly' things like running BBQs or calling quizzes. I don't remember a dad ever staffing the entrance to events, or doing face-painting or craft stall, for example.

Without exception the majority of PTA mums were working mums. I was often the only SAHM.

There's a saying "If you need a job done, ask a busy person." It holds true for PTA.

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 01/04/2017 08:03

I agree. TL:DR, although sadly Indid so I'll pick the writer up on this statement instead

Also, are there no dads on PTAs?

The PTA at my son's school is run by a group of Dads. Stick that in your ranty pipe and smoke it!

welovepancakes · 01/04/2017 08:10

The PTA at my son's school is run by a group of Dads. Stick that in your ranty pipe and smoke it!

Okay that's great, but I suspect it's unusual. Our PTA has plenty of Dads as office bearers, but not so many doing the drudge tasks

Although I would love to see some new / different events at our school, I think it's understandable that PTA's tend to stick to what they know / feel familiar with.

RainbowsAndUnicorn · 01/04/2017 08:11

Most people just use the "clique" as an excuse not to join or help.

The majority of parents in our two local school PTAs are working parents or retired.

I very much doubt people join the PTA for their CVs, hardly something an employer is seeking and given most PTA members work very irrelevant.

They do it for the school and children. All those that moan, whine and bitch about them still send their children to events or let them benefit from purchases though.

HandbagCrab · 01/04/2017 08:12

Because if I gave £50 at the start of the year as it currently stands I'd still be getting pestered by my child to do all the pta events in the year that cost my time and money anyway. I could say no as I've paid my £50 but then they're left out.

Why not put up a list of jobs on fb and see if you have any takers? People might take better to that than assuming that if we help out we'd be dogsbodying for the more established members.

TesticlesInTheBlender · 01/04/2017 08:17

"Why not put up a list of jobs on fb and see if you have any takers? People might take better to that than assuming that if we help out we'd be dogsbodying for the more established members."

Tried putting requests on FB - guess how many people volunteered?

Dogsbodying for the more established members - hell fire what do you think we are going to ask you to do? Our Chair works her backside off for the PTA - we don't sit around massaging her ego.

TinfoilHattie · 01/04/2017 08:24

We have a PTA facebook group with around 300 members, approaching half of the parents at the school. We do put requests on there and as Testicles said we're never blown away with the response. Plus you're not reaching the parents who aren't on FB or who don't want to be in the group.

The experience of PTAs being staffed by mums exclusively who don't work at all isn't true in my experience either - our chair works full time, the treasurer does compressed hours 4 days a week, there are two other members who job share with each other and do 2.5 days each, two more are freelance (one a writer, one a graphic designer). They've all got kids obviously, and other committments.

Mrdarcyfanclub · 01/04/2017 08:24

Some really sneery attitudes on here.

My friends helped out for years on PTAs and aren't at all inadequate, bored, or unfriendly as hinted at in some of the posts here. Just happy to help out for the school and kids. I never heard them moan about busy, working parents (some of them worked themselves).

As for those happy to just send in £50 at beginning of year, just bloody do it then. Our PTA had a facility in which u could just pay for the bits and pieces for the lucky dip etc and the PTA did all the wrapping for you. Still loads of (wealthy) people didn't do that either.

Porpoiselife · 01/04/2017 08:27

I'd be more inclined to help if we were told what they were raising for. We have no idea beforehand. I found out after 1 event that £300 raised went to buying fucking bedding plants for the front of school. All very nice but the week before a trip was cancelled because not enough people paid.

And rarely do we know at end of the year what all the money was spent on.

If they did an event to raise money for , say, much needed sports equipment or to fund an interesting school trip I'd be right there. But bedding plants, sod that!

NotYoda · 01/04/2017 08:30

Just an observation:

The PTA at our school has many dads involved, and they don't seem to get as much grief, or assumptions made about their motivations

GoodyGoodyGumdrops · 01/04/2017 08:31

What is TL:DR?

HandbagCrab · 01/04/2017 08:35

Well I can see why pta are not as successful as they might be tbh. I'll carry on paying double what the pta receive so my dc can take part as they've been pestered to do.

JigglyTuff · 01/04/2017 08:36

I did make specific suggestions Testicles - they weren't interested. They only wanted to organise the activities that they always do, as I said in my earlier post.

I have actually done a lot of volunteering at events (until DS became too distressed to attend) and I do appreciate that most people really enjoy them.

And I do think our school is particularly crap - hopefully the next one will be a bit better

maisyanddaisy · 01/04/2017 08:37

Some absolutely horrible replies on here.

BertrandRussell · 01/04/2017 08:52

"And rarely do we know at end of the year what all the money was spent on. "
Do you go to the AGM? If you can't make it, do you ask for a copy of the Treasurer's report?

ithakabythesea · 01/04/2017 08:54

Thank god we are through the primary years and spared the PTA bollocks. Both mummy and daddy have better things to do time in this house. Our parents were never expected to get involved with the school, it is modern helicopter parenting bullcrap we could all do without.

DuaneDibbley · 01/04/2017 08:55

"What is TL:DR?"

Too long didn't read. People couldn't be bothered to take the 2 minutes it took to read it.

GoodyGoodyGumdrops · 01/04/2017 09:02

How odd, ithaka, my DM was involved in the PTA 40 years ago.

And there's no need to be so rude Duane. I have read every island followed this thread, but have not picked up on what TL:DR means.

TesticlesInTheBlender · 01/04/2017 09:02

Exactly Duane - yet they can spend hours on mumsnet!

GoodyGoodyGumdrops · 01/04/2017 09:03

OopsBlushsorry Duane

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