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... for those who are devastated about Brexit, how are you dealing with the fear and depression and anxiety?

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testytesting · 29/03/2017 09:58

Has anyone got any strategies? I am genuinely not one for melodrama, but I am devastated, angry, terrified, depressed, and I feel so utterly helpless. Nothing in my lifetime has made me feel like this, and I just can't imagine feeling like this for the next two years and beyond. I can hardly bear to listen to the news, but I feel compelled to anyway. How are other remainers dealing with this, what are your coping strategies? And what, if anything, can we DO?

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shortsaint · 29/03/2017 20:32

Me too. Just listening to you all.

CardinalSin · 29/03/2017 20:34

I'm drinking beer. A good British ale I reckon most Brexiters are lager drinkers-

soapboxqueen · 29/03/2017 20:41

I think it really sad that people find the genuine concerns of people worried about brexit to be funny.

The issues are numerous. Maybe they'll be solved, maybe they won't but laughing at anybody when the future is so uncertain makes the whole concept of us living in 'unity' for a stronger Britain incredibly unlikely.

Chickenkatsu · 29/03/2017 20:42

Rascists won the battle but they'll loose the war, multiculturalism is the future.

itsmine · 29/03/2017 20:50

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CheeseQueen · 29/03/2017 20:50

I think it really sad that people find the genuine concerns of people worried about brexit to be funny.

There's concern, and then there's full on mass hysteria that is only fuelled by threads like this as they get filled up with hyperbole and mass panic attacks.
How is it healthy? Really? To keep hashing and working yourself up into a state?
I'm apprehensive as to what's coming next, but the level on this thread is something else entirely.
I laughed at the poster who wanted to apologise on behalf of her nation, yes. I make no apologies for that as honestly, that is just absolutely ludicrous. THAT'S the type of crap that got us into the whole Brexit mess in the first place - people speaking on behalf of others and telling them what they should and shouldn't be thinking.

itsmine · 29/03/2017 20:52

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M0stlyBowlingHedgehog · 29/03/2017 20:54

"And of the half that voted leave most of them only did so because they believed all the lies about immigration" - and we're back with the "17 million people revealed themselves to be knuckle-dragging racists" analysis. It really does no-one any favours. (and Lord Ashcroft's poll the day referendum asked people why they voted the way they did - the number of "leave" voters saying that immigration was their top concern was actually a minority. Of course, they could have been lying, but I certainly haven't seen a poll which shows that racism was really the main reason for the leave vote). I personally agree with Chickenkatsu - multiculturalism is the way forward. And I think that will win out.

user1490465531 · 29/03/2017 20:55

zzzzz it's just getting boring now.
Get over it ffs.

CheeseQueen · 29/03/2017 21:00

Rascists won the battle but they'll loose the war

Yes, some who voted Leave are no doubt racist. How can you say they ALL are though?! What a sweeping generalisation.
That's as stupid as saying something like all Remainers won't let Christmas be celebrated as we have to priotise Eid and Diwali instead.

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 29/03/2017 21:00

What's actually wrong with some of you people?

The OP was really clear what the thread was going to be about

And some people agree

And some people are disagreeing nicely

And some are goady fuckwits

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 29/03/2017 21:02

cardinal

I do love a good lager

Mythos is a current favourite

Grin
Livelovebehappy · 29/03/2017 21:03

Yes OP, I'm terrified and depressed, but not about Brexit. I feel that way about how the world is at the moment; so much unrest everywhere, and so much hatred. The threat of terrorism and war depresses me far more than us leaving the EU. A bit of perspective is needed I think. Brexit is happening, and is going to be a learning curve for everyone, but in the grand scheme of things there are far worse matters to get 'depressed' and 'terrified' of.

soapboxqueen · 29/03/2017 21:05

If you don't like people's reactions then don't read, don't post.

If your sick of hearing about it, click on another thread.

It really is very simple.

Dragongirl10 · 29/03/2017 21:13

I am genuinely not one for melodrama, but I am devastated, angry, terrified, depressed, and I feel so utterly helpless........

Really? how totally ludicrous OP, for god sake get a grip....What SleepFreeZone said....

KwaziisEyepatch · 29/03/2017 21:16

I actually think that part of the problem is that those of us who feel genuinely upset about Brexit are constantly made to feel like we're overreacting. I'm the first to admit that the EU isn't perfect, but those of you who seem to enjoy others' distress today just take a minute to consider the situation as we see it:

  1. A referendum we didn't want in the first place was held and lost. Our ability to accept the democratic will of the people is somewhat undermined by the fact that most of the Leave campaign turned out immediately to be lies, EU citizens in the UK are given no certainty, result is welcomed by Putin and Trump, most of new cabinet brands anyone who utters a single word of concern as an unpatriotic moaner who can't accept the result, and Nigel Farage looks delighted (always a bad sign). Oh, and hate crime shoots up.
  2. An unelected Prime Minister adopts a mandate of not only leaving the EU but doing it in as extreme a way as possible, namely by giving up on the single market with no attempt to negotiate access and threatening to turn the country into a tax haven.
  3. Fundamental rights increasingly seem under threat- government refuses to defend the independence of the judiciary, for example.
  4. The official opposition crumbles to the point that it might as well not exist.
  5. The best case scenario is we spend 2 years and billions of pounds regaining a situation slightly less advantageous than the one we are waving goodbye to. Read the PM'S letter to Juncke, it's all about how amazing the EU is and how much we need liberal values nowadays, it's insane! We already have those WITHIN THE EU!

...and then we are asked to unite behind the whole concept. I mean, come on. Clearly no one is churlish enough to want the negotiations to fail, but even on paper it's a farce. And when you add to that the fact that many of us feel VERY strongly that the EU, despite its flaws, has been a force for good in the world, you can see why actually saying you feel devastated is not melodrama. I will never forget how I felt on 24th June as long as I live. I still feel sick thinking about it, and belittling the strength of feeling that many of us still hold just because you think differently does no one any favours.

On a practical level OP the only two things that have worked for me are not reading the news in the evenings (I sleep better that way) and above all getting out and taking action. I've joined the lib dem and been leafleting for them recently, and become involved in a women's network which supports vulnerable families where I live. When I actually get out and protest, and do something about it, I feel heaps better. It's also the only thing that will fix the situation.

soapboxqueen · 29/03/2017 21:21

Well said eyepatch

itsmine · 29/03/2017 21:22

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Chickenkatsu · 29/03/2017 21:23

Yes eyepatch, posts like yours keep me coming back to MN. I think that I'll join the Liberal Democrats too.

topcat2014 · 29/03/2017 21:28

The whole EU is an administrative construct, and collection of paperwork. Journalists are in the business of whipping news up daily, to feed the twenty four hour beast.

Yes, I'm not thrilled, but it doesn't directly affect me, or indeed my work colleagues (who are EU citizens, and not expecting to be 'deported'), so I watch the news, and apart from that get on with my life.

Yes, the economy may tank - but it does that every few years anyway, and always has. Most of us on MN will have been made redundant once.

People are resilient, and society finds a way of muddling along.

Try to ignore it, if it's getting you down, OP - perhaps limit yourself to one news broadcast each day, and no web news - which can get a bit addictive.

soapboxqueen · 29/03/2017 21:30

itsmine I manage to not comment all the time. It's very easy. I'd wager easier than actually posting a comment.

CheeseQueen · 29/03/2017 21:31

. I still feel sick thinking about it, and belittling the strength of feeling that many of us still hold just because you think differently does no one any favours

No, I agree with you there. I'm not belittling anyone's feelings, we can't help the way we feel. If you (general you) feel terrified, devastated, traumatised or whatever from the result of a referendum that hasn't gone your way though, you really need some sort of help as that sort of anxiety isn't good for anyone (I say this as someone who gets anxiety so not bandying about lightly.)
Your statement also goes two ways. It does nobody any good to tear others down, and labelling everyone who voted Leave as thick and racist is hardly conducive to the result we wanted in the first place. That's why we are where we are today - total dismissal of concerns, shouting down of issues and only being "allowed" to think one way.

CheeseQueen · 29/03/2017 21:34

If you don't like people's reactions then don't read, don't post

Oh, come on. It's in AIBU. Which is for people's opinions.
So if somebody had posted " whoohoo, so glad Brexit's finally been triggered!" you'd seriously expect nobody else to come onto the thread with opposite views?
Probably no. As you're not the Thread Police.

Flumpernickel · 29/03/2017 21:35

What???

"For my part I will be brushing up my German and going out to Angela Merkel's countrymen and women to try and apologise for my misguided country."

Dont you dare apologise on my behalf! What a sycophantic and imbecilic comment.

almondpudding · 29/03/2017 21:37

While I understand that many people who feel angry, anxious etc are doing so while behaving in a perfectly reasonable manner, there are also a fair few who are not.

What makes me anxious is the very tribalistic and angry manner some people across the spectrum of political beliefs are acting. I am far more concerned by the growing intolerance towards people with different beliefs than I am by whether or not we leave the EU.