... for those who are devastated about Brexit, how are you dealing with the fear and depression and anxiety?

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Has anyone got any strategies? I am genuinely not one for melodrama, but I am devastated, angry, terrified, depressed, and I feel so utterly helpless. Nothing in my lifetime has made me feel like this, and I just can't imagine feeling like this for the next two years and beyond. I can hardly bear to listen to the news, but I feel compelled to anyway. How are other remainers dealing with this, what are your coping strategies? And what, if anything, can we DO?

Not really, we have lived abroad before and enjoyed it. We don't think either the economy or the political climate will be much fun over the next few years. Also on a purely selfish basis I have very limited enthusiasm for paying taxes towards this project. It will all seem much smaller and less important from a distance away.

Dont you dare apologise on my behalf! What a sycophantic and imbecilic comment.

I bypassed rage and got the giggles instead

Yes there will be political problems in many countries, but thanks to DH's job we can provide a far higher standard of living, healthcare and education (without a lottery) and more importantly wider view of the world by getting them out of this progressively small-minded nation. We likely will move again, not because of politics just because actually that's what works for our family. (this time wasn't because of Brexit either but it certainly hastened our desire to make it happen).

You mean your dh travels around a lot for his job? Hardly a dramatic flounce.

Yes there will be political problems in many countries, but thanks to DH's job we can provide a far higher standard of living, healthcare and education (without a lottery) and more importantly wider view of the world by getting them out of this progressively small-minded nation. We likely will move again, not because of politics just because actually that's what works for our family. (this time wasn't because of Brexit either but it certainly hastened our desire to make it happen).

You mean your dh travels around a lot for his job? Hardly a dramatic flounce.

What's with the joining Lib dem? Hopeless bunch.

Totally and utterly agree with cheese if politicians of all sides had heeded concerns from people concerning uncontrolled immigration we wouldn't be in this situation right now. The same people who call others racist are the same people now shell shocked at the leave result.

Change devestated, traumatised etc to dismissed, patronised, ignored and belittled and you may understand how millions of people voted leave.

Stop naval gazing and look up. If Blaire, brown, major and Cameron had done that we would still be in the EU.

I am far more concerned by the growing intolerance towards people with different beliefs than I am by whether or not we leave the EU

Hear, hear to that. I find that just as worrying, if not more. The sheer inability to accept others viewpoints is far scarier.
Live and let live. Each to their own. Simplistic, I know, but the world would be a much better place!

CheeseQueen there is a difference between a differing opinion and complaining that a thread exists or that your are sick of similar topics.

It happens in all different kinds of threads and is utterly pointless.

Most people didn't vote leave because of immigration though.

I should have done the same cheese , but christ, that one pushed all my buttons!

Sorry, that was to Brew.

Btandenburger were you intending to be hilarious? Apologise to the Germans? Really

dought we will ever return

Off you flounce then dear lucky your dh earns lots.

For me joining the lib demos was a small way of making it clear that I believed in a different version of the U.K. One I admit I had taken for granted.

I have lived in multi-cultural London and pretty mono cultural North Yorks and I don't think that uncontrolled immigration was the reason for most people that I know voting out. It seemed much more about feeling left behind and being left out.

almond I think they did and 'taking back control' all legitimate concerns really. Again I voted remain

Ironically, I suspect that most of us liberals (and proud) who want to stay in the EU would be the first to agree that the country has massive problems of inequality and lack of opportunity. Terribly so, and of course that's why the referendum went the way it did. The difference is that we don't believe it's the fault if the EU, or that leaving will help in the slightest. In fact, it's likely to make things worse as it puts jobs and prosperity at risk.

And I've never suggested that leave voters are racist. They have totally legitimate concerns, but - utterly frustratingly - leaving the EU is not the answer. A Prime Minister who talks about reducing social inequality and then announces she's bringing back grammar schools should be a warning sign!

itsmine I admit I do sometimes feel genuinely anxious and down. I know I'm not the only one. It's a really widespread but under-expressed feeling I think.

Not one for melodrama, you say?

I voted leave. I stand by that. I've weathered the crap that's come in my direction from those who sling mud.

We don't know much about any of it at the moment. Histrionics are getting in the way.

I think immigration was a huge factor in the Leave vote, but not necessarily in the way people think.

People sometimes assume those who are hesitant over uncontrolled immigration are racist, or if not actually racist, xenophobic. They believe they are lacking education, dislike Eastern Europeans and probably have skinheads to boot.

More realistically I think a lot of people worry about the uncontrolled aspect not the immigration aspect. It doesn't matter how fan fabby amazeballs the people coming in are - if we don't know how many then we can't plan for them. I have grave, grave concerns about overcrowding for example. Nothing to do with immigrants as such but more that I feel it's having a detrimental effect on everybody.

Finally a recurring theme on these threads is the cry of 'it is affecting ME. It means MY job/DHs job/DSs future' has been changed or compromised in some way.

Yet when in the past people have complained about the same because of levels of immigration it's either been ignored or filed into X for 'xenophobic' . Yet we can't call remainers S for selfish?

If you're looking out for your own best interests and it hasn't gone your way I am sorry for that. But it's interesting that's acceptable yet the reverse isn't.

It could possibly be either the best decision Britain ever made or a bad few years.

When you get to 50 and lived through the Thatcher years, the IRA, IRAQ wars, Cold War, the Falklands war, numerous numerous booms and busts, the 3 day week and the winter of discontent, unemployment the miners strike, loosing parents and loved ones you get perspective. It's a good place.

Yes armpitz agree

Oh for goodness sake get a bloody grip.

OK, so we all need to understand that we're all acting with the best of patriotic intentions and stop insulting each others viewpoints. Or at least try.

I'd love to know where those people who have 'exit strategies' are moving to?

I think *armpitz" makes a really good point there. There is a lot of "I'm losing my job/DH is losing his so screw you Brexiters" attitude, on this thread as well in point.
How are your concerns any more important than those, say (for example) experiencing uncontrolled immigration and problems that come with it?
It might be an unpalatable fact, but there are some places that people live in that are by and large ghettos (in other words, whole areas that don't integrate, or have any intention of integrating with, the British way of life.)
When you've got two contrasting cultures, if you don't want to adopt to the "live and let live" approach I like to take, (each to their own, I love you all,) then what do you do?
Are the people having to live with this type of contrast supposed to just suck it up? Put up with the incidents in their neighbourhoods?
It's what affects them. Which is what you (general you) are describing when you say you're losing your jobs etc.
Both points valid. BOTH points need listening to, not dismissing or cried down.

I think a lot of people are finding it hard to come to terms with not getting their own way.