... for those who are devastated about Brexit, how are you dealing with the fear and depression and anxiety?

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Has anyone got any strategies? I am genuinely not one for melodrama, but I am devastated, angry, terrified, depressed, and I feel so utterly helpless. Nothing in my lifetime has made me feel like this, and I just can't imagine feeling like this for the next two years and beyond. I can hardly bear to listen to the news, but I feel compelled to anyway. How are other remainers dealing with this, what are your coping strategies? And what, if anything, can we DO?

^You can go back less than 100 years to a time where people were being bombed out of their homes and they managed to deal with scary, unstable times whilst still being positive and hopeful.

You reckon? You don't think that quite a lot of them were terrified, traumatised and numb? Or have you bought into the rosy-tinted nostalgia of Blitz Spirit?^

My DGF had to work in central London during the Blitz and said that people were incredibly brave, resilient and stoic during that time. Please don't try to rewrite history and make them all out to be quivering wrecks to suit your own political agenda

How about you don't try to rewrite history to negate the bloody awful violence, loss and trauma of the Blitz just to suit your political agenda?

What a drama queen op. Here have a grip.

Seriously 4 people died on Westminster bridge last week, have some perspective or seek professional help.

I am not *Toast

Some outstoundingly shitheaded replies on this thread- ignorant and nasty.

My word, Cowgirlsareforever...

The Blitz was a time of horror, death and destruction. People were brave and resilient but also terrified, traumatised and bereaved. How on earth would they have been anything other?

This thread is hilarious.

Thanks Op. It's been a long while since I literally lol'd reading MN.

This thread is hilarious.

Thanks Op. It's been a long while since I literally lol'd reading MN.

There's nothing we can do unfortunately.

I'm coping by focusing on the day to day.

I find the sneering and "eh?"'s and "hmm"'s to pretty much tap into the things I despise about England. The aggressive smugness that is sooo infuriating.

I wish I could move back to Scotland just because I feel so out of place here, and I don't like the way England is going, but my kids are English…and their dad is down here too.

Sorry toddler jumped on my head mid post

My short term strategy is to have a glass of wine tonight to help me sleep. I never do that. My medium term strategy is to assert by EU citizenship by applying for an Irish passport.

Well, when both me and my DH are faced with losing our jobs, I don't think so. If any of you leavers would like to help me out with the mortgage, just let me know!

Are you both on the EU cash-cow? If so, you've milked it well over the years. Every good con-artist knows when it's time to leave.

and cowgirls I met many people who survived bombing in a major English city due to my work, and believe me there were many, many who had lifelong major MH problems due to the war. People might be 'stoic' to start but fall apart soon after. You can't re-write history.

And part of the reason I wanted to stay in the EU was because it has helped prevent another world war….

To be honest Hogs I am really finding the whole discussion about whether or not people were brave during the Blitz quite distasteful in the context of this discussion. All I will say is that of course people were shit scared but the way they conducted themselves demonstrated their immense collective courage. That is an historical fact. I can't understand why other posters would question that. It's all very unnecessary.

You're the one that brought up the Blitz, perhaps you shouldn't have done so if you were going to find any discussion on it distasteful.

SWOT that's a really vile post.

How so?

If you look at my post Toast I think you will find I was quoting an earlier poster. I do however regret adding further comments about the Blitz because, as I have said, I find the conversation has taken a distasteful and disrespectful direction.

What can you do? I think you need to get a grip first

SWOT - worth an ask but not a sneer.
There may be many people dependent on the EU cash cow but I suspect many more dependent on the benefit to our manufacturing that meant overseas firms (think cars) came here and employed not just those in the factories but the subsidiary suppliers/salesmen etc. Some of the people dependent on the cash cow (outside EU Commissioners, MEPs and staff - but they'll be continuing on for the next 2 years at least) may also be people working honestly for our agencies like DEFRA, RPA etc but facing cutbacks. I suspect the finance industry will make sure they have footholds in Bonn/Paris/Brussels for research staff but keep their main people here. However our farmers etc will be juggling their futures as will we all dependent on how the negotiations go - and will be adapting from year to year to the EU negotiations (including the current loss of migrant workers) as well as weather, crop yields, export overheads etc. I think for many more people the next 10/20 years will be living on a knife edge as things shake down - and if more countries follow the UK.

OP, you're not Glenys Kinnock are you? Tough times ahead for Lord and Lady Kinnock christophereverard.co.uk/kinnocks-10-million-pay-off-and-the-eu-secret-bank-accounts/

Meant to add - if people already face losing their jobs then shaking and trembling is what I'd be doing while punting out my cv and retrenching which is hugely hard but no more than people have faced in the past with the closure of industries (but look what's happened to those areas). But I do feel that those cushioned against it and just lamenting should shut up and help fashion the best possible outcome.

My main concern is that we don't have enough skilled negotiators or lawyers or civil servants who know what a contract is and can look ahead to unforeseen consequences. Think of the NHS people who negotiated PFI contracts leaving new build hospitals with huge paybacks and wards closing because of the cost of staffing v interest payments. I expect huge payments to the Red Adair's of the industry.

Could I also please remind people who are ashamed to be British that there is probably not a single British family who within living memory, haven't lost a father, son, brother, uncle, nephew fighting to save the lives of people in other countries. I know we are not perfect and I hate that we are leaving the EU but I think the anti-British comments on here are unfairly harsh and dare I say it, hysterical.

I think the reason we're all so scared is because of a very understandable fear of the unknown. The fault for that sits with the politicians - a weak leader who wrongly phrased a referendum question, and a new one who hasn't got a scooby.

Does anyone else think that in about 10 years time, when we're out the other side and a lot of the Brexiteers have died off, someone will come up with the bright idea of getting together with a few other nearby countries for a bit of trading and the like...?