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to start a thread about trans panic because there have only been seventy six already

417 replies

GustyParson · 28/03/2017 17:22

Trans people want to steal your rights! And stroke your cat. They want to colonise your child's reading books, infiltrate your favourite prisons, appropriate the gold medals you would otherwise win for your peerless skills on the pummel horse, take the best seats on the Tube, demand that midwives talk exclusively about pregnant fathers, haunt your preferred changing rooms, run rampant through the Brownie Guides, go unchallenged in every echelon of the WI, burn all your favourite pronouns in an industrial furnace, benefit from all your oppression, demand your pet dog be addressed as Mx, frolic carelessly across the flower bed you've only just planted for God's sake, insist that there are more than two genders, require to be recognised as the gender 'combine harvester' one day and the gender 'quail' the next, piss on the toilet you wanted to reserve for your friends, and call you Cis which is like totally cruel because it sounds like sissy.

Alternatively, trans people are people, they are not trying to hurt you, most of you have never met one, none of you need to feel threatened by them, and there really isn't a need to start fifteen threads a week fretting that they're going to steal your last Bourbon Cream, appropriate or destroy feminism, or change your baby's name from Thomas to Pixie. Seriously, calm down.

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Billsikesbullterrier · 31/03/2017 15:32

I've done my bit here. It may be childish to reiterate that I am NOT Spartacus, but tbh a whole thread of folk shouting how they were really brings out the childish response in me.

venusinscorpio · 31/03/2017 15:32

Courtesy:

I feel much more like a woman than a man.

We don't mind you sharing with us, we're allies, even though you're obviously not a woman.

Right (in 2017)

I couldn't give a fuck how much of a manly man I look or how threatening I am, or how uncomfortable and small I make you feel, it's my RIGHT to access female sex segregated intimate facilities and no one is going to stop me. Suck it up, cunts.

Datun · 31/03/2017 15:34

Billsikesbullterrier

If you feel strongly about this, can you please stop using generalities, and be specific. Otherwise it's very difficult to understand what you are referring to.

Billsikesbullterrier · 31/03/2017 15:34

"You're obviously not a woman" means we will never see eye to eye on this.

venusinscorpio · 31/03/2017 15:34

Really?

brickinitIam · 31/03/2017 15:35

I couldn't give a fuck how much of a manly man I look or how threatening I am, or how uncomfortable and small I make you feel, it's my RIGHT to access female sex segregated intimate facilities and no one is going to stop me. Suck it up, cunts.

Wow.
You're a regular Poster Girl for them aren't you.

and no one is going to stop me. Suck it up, cunts.

Spoken like a man.

Datun · 31/03/2017 15:36

Back in the old days, it used to be a courtesy to say thank you when you were given a gift for Christmas. Now it's a God-given right. If you don't say thank you're breaching my rights.

See? Courtesies don't automatically turn into rights. Please be more specific.

venusinscorpio · 31/03/2017 15:37

Who is "them"?

Spoken like a man.

That was rather the whole point.

Iris65 · 31/03/2017 15:38

I see that things have not changed in the world of MN trans discussions.
It reminds me of the moment in Frasier when during couples therapy Dr Schacter says to Frasier and Niles 'In thirty years as a couples' therapist, I've never said what I'm about to say: Give up! It's hopeless! You are pathologically mistrustful of each other, competitive to the point of madness!'

Datun · 31/03/2017 15:38

Spoken like a man.

And there we have it. How does a man speak, exactly?

DanDanDanDanDan · 31/03/2017 15:39

I don't think they're rapists who said they're all rapists? I think males are socialised in a rape culture. Either you agree with that or you believe the markedly higher amount of rape commuted by males is a symptom of their "man brain" and therefore those 'Cis'men are somehow admitting they've got this dangerous man brain.

Datun · 31/03/2017 15:41

Today 15:32 Billsikesbullterrier

I've done my bit here. It may be childish to reiterate that I am NOT Spartacus, but tbh a whole thread of folk shouting how they were really brings out the childish response in me.

No coherent argument, in fact no argument. Just shouts of bigotry.

It's like Pavlov's dog.

"Bigot!"

Every single time.

venusinscorpio · 31/03/2017 15:42

For those who haven't got it, my hypothetical transactivist was in the Danielle Muscato mound.

DanDanDanDanDan · 31/03/2017 15:42

I've seen many articles by transgender people saying they've noticed how differently they are treated compared to how they expect to be treated while living in the new gender. Because yes, you really are socialised from birth and not just the bits, all ifnutb

brickinitIam · 31/03/2017 15:42

It's the dictating, entitled tone of voice.
A 'You will do as I say' and 'I will do as I wish' attitude when addressing women.

It's slipping through.
You might wanna work on that a bit.

venusinscorpio · 31/03/2017 15:43

What?

DanDanDanDanDan · 31/03/2017 15:43

*and not just the good bits, but all of it

(That should say)

venusinscorpio · 31/03/2017 15:45

I'm not sure you were following the conversation, brick. About courtesies and "rights"? My post was about the difference.

Datun · 31/03/2017 15:46

venusinscorpio

Does Brick think you are a transwoman?

venusinscorpio · 31/03/2017 15:46

Think so.

Billsikesbullterrier · 31/03/2017 15:50

Christ. I'm would have said I'm pretty sure no one could ever mistake YOU for a trans women Venus but I think brick may have done. Thread turns weird

Billsikesbullterrier · 31/03/2017 15:52

Yeah, I know it's bad manners to say "I'm done" but still lurk. No defence there....

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 31/03/2017 15:52

I don't think every man or trans woman who has a penis is a rapist

But they are a potential rapist and if I am in a position where I feel vulnerable or think I am safe then my senses tell me I am not actually just with other females (so that too would factor in those that have fully transitioned) I am going to feel from discomfort to fearful and alarmed

I think it is very hard to understand for men and those who have transitioned how that actually feels. We are well aware of attacks on transwomen transsexuals and the bullying but that is different from simply being on you guard as the other person can overpower you if they choose to

And that is how it is for women and how it's always been and we are to ignore that Hmm

DanDanDanDanDan · 31/03/2017 15:53

How many of you would genuinely think your twelve year old daughters were bigots for it wanting to shower with a twelve year old girl with a penis?

Datun · 31/03/2017 15:56

How many of you would genuinely think your twelve year old daughters were bigots for it wanting to shower with a twelve year old girl with a penis?

Or a 50-year-old man at the leisure centre?

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