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Katie Hopkins

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notanothernamechangebabes · 23/03/2017 07:42

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4340290/Truth-t-like-says-KATIE-HOPKINS.html

AIBU to think Katie Hopkins is straying closer and closer to the line that separates legitimate "right wing" politics, and unacceptable "far right" extremism?

I find this article a) utterly incoherent in its argument and b) utterly abhorrent in its content....

Yesterday's attack is deeply deeply saddening- we live in London and we're heartbroken that this has happened again- but I actually find Katie's bile almost as saddening and troubling- as I fear these are views held by many many more people... sure these are just words, and yesterday saw vile, violent actions... but those actions would have begun with words of hate and anger too...

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Chillyegg · 23/03/2017 08:58

Katie Hopkins is a cunt.
That kind of article is completely and utterly a vile way for KH to cash in on this awful incident and gain publicity. All this hand ringing for the white british person is completely false. She wouldnt give a shit about anyone else wether white or black or asian unless she could get something out of it. Im furious shes tried cashing in on this. My best friend works in the houses of parliment for an ML and it was terrifying. Her heritage down the line is bloody romanie gypsy. Im a teacher half white english, and half asian. Neither of us think ists every muslims fault. Ridiculous notion

notanothernamechangebabes · 23/03/2017 08:58

Damn you caught me! Just toodling off back to my desk made of the purest English oak, to pen another diatribe using my British royal swan quill, on the purest white paper, while I grind my teeth at the sheer idiocy of all you woolly liberals, while I dream of Ye Olde England, where everyone was white, middle class, thin and read the daily mail.

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EastMidsMummy · 23/03/2017 08:59

Quite frankly not sure what the way people voted has anything to do with this.

Then maybe re-read the thread and you'll see how the conversation led to it.

user838383 · 23/03/2017 08:59

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notanothernamechangebabes · 23/03/2017 08:59

That was for edballs

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Edballsisoneniftydancer · 23/03/2017 08:59

Babes you are one classy OP!

egosumquisum1 · 23/03/2017 09:00

I remember the Soho pub bombings, The LGBT community targeted by an extremist. I lived in London at the time.

We had the Orlando shootings. The LGBT community targeted by an extremist.

I don' know how you stop people acting on extremist views - any over reaction affects our daily life or can lead to more alienation.

ProcrastinatingSquid2 · 23/03/2017 09:00

It's a shitty article. And the drivelly, stunted sentences to show her emotion are particularly cringeworthy. I think she doesn't need to say what her 'solution' to the problem is because all the idiot commentors below the article will do that: post ideas about deporting Muslims and about how Trump is quite right with his attempted Muslim ban.
I find it hilariously ironic that all those commenters are very happy about a large minority being tarred by the actions of a small violent minority. If that's fine to do, then the real solution is that all MEN should be deported, not all MUSLIMS. If we honestly want the UK to be this crime-free utopia where we walk the streets without fear, and it's also fine to condemn a whole group based on what a few are doing, we need to send away the group that is committing 98% of sex crimes, 90% of murders, around 90% of robberies and so on. Even Islamic terrorism -which is extremely rare in this country - is almost exclusive to men.

MiscellaneousAssortment · 23/03/2017 09:01

Lweji yes it's true there were lots of things going on with the Bexit vote that means it's not a clear picture. I was thinking of these kind of visualisations of the votes where there does seem to be a geographical divide going on, at abroad brush stroke level & for those votes on that day by the people that turned out to vote:

m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_576cf29fe4b0232d331db2b6

www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2016/jun/23/eu-referendum-live-results-and-analysis

Anyway, I'm digressing from the main point of the thread...

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ProcrastinatingSquid2 · 23/03/2017 09:03

*sorry, large majority

ToastDemon · 23/03/2017 09:03

Using a terrorist attack to further her career and notoriety. God that woman is a fucking roach.

egosumquisum1 · 23/03/2017 09:04

Even Islamic terrorism -which is extremely rare in this country - is almost exclusive to men

I am sure if someone suggested deporting men because of male violence, there would be an outcry.

I am sure if someone suggested a male ban on people arriving in a country, there would be an outcry.

But it's ok for some to replace men / male with Muslim...

Applebite · 23/03/2017 09:05

we need to send away the group that is committing 98% of sex crimes, 90% of murders, around 90% of robberies and so on

Until they all start identifying as women...

SootSprite · 23/03/2017 09:05

There are an awful lot of people that agree with what KH has written.
They aren't all right wing extremists. Some of them are just normal, law-abiding people.

ProcrastinatingSquid2 · 23/03/2017 09:06

Ego, I did actually comment on the daily mail to suggest as much once. I was downvoted right to the bottom and abused -by lots of men...

Applebite · 23/03/2017 09:07

Piglet - for me the bit that is right is that the outpourings of grief and prayfor hashtags aren't really doing anything. There was a meme doing the rounds on facebook about how people changing their profile pic on there have now done their bit, until the next time.

But the way she puts it and her proposals for sorting it out are absolutely wrong.

hackmum · 23/03/2017 09:08

She's not massively bright.

Lots of us lived through the far-worse IRA atrocities of the 70s and 80s. This level of hysteria isn't helping anyone.

Justanothernameonthepage · 23/03/2017 09:10

The IRA and ISIS are different – but the key point here, is that when the IRA were acting in the same way as ISIS by planning and carrying out terrorist attacks (and being funded by people all over the world), we avoided blaming all Irish and all Christians. This actually helped the peace process (can you imagine the recruitment gift the IRA would have been handed if we had columnists comparing Catholics/Irish to cockroaches).

ISIS aren’t representative of Islam – they kill more Muslims than any other religious group, they attack Muslim countries more than any other country. They actively want there to be a war between ‘the west’ and ‘Islam’ as then they’re recruitment rate will increase and their version of Islam will become the default.

            So every time people buy into the whole ‘Islam is the problem’ (instead of cowardly idiots are the problem) and repeat it, it helps accomplish ISIS’s aims. It makes normal Muslims feel ‘other’ and more likely to be targeted by far right extremists and anyone who is feeling like an outsider or targeted is more likely to listen to the people telling them that they have a solution.
egosumquisum1 · 23/03/2017 09:10

She's not massively bright

Ironically, she wanted a career in Army Intelligence.

Skatingonthinice16 · 23/03/2017 09:10

I don't know what the answer is.
I feel like some elements of Islam should be challenged but will that create a deeper divide?
Unfortunately there is no answer but I think it's very likely that terrorist acts will continue and increase. All you need is a car basically...

Justanothernameonthepage · 23/03/2017 09:11

Damn typos. Please can we have edit button?

egosumquisum1 · 23/03/2017 09:13

So every time people buy into the whole ‘Islam is the problem’ (instead of cowardly idiots are the problem) and repeat it, it helps accomplish ISIS’s aims

Trump and Hopkins and others are recruiting sergeants for ISIS - their words and actions, along with the comment they inspire, can be used to show people how they are really viewed by some...

Underparmummy · 23/03/2017 09:13

applebite - I agree with you. Hashtags and candles are not really addressing the issue. KH is sensationalist though and generalises everything to a meaningless rant.

Peregrina · 23/03/2017 09:13

Some of them are just normal, law-abiding people.

Then it's time they woke up and put their brains into gear, and thought about what the bile she spouts can lead to. As the quote attributed to Burke said "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

Edballsisoneniftydancer · 23/03/2017 09:13

What Justanothernameonthepage said.

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