Katie Hopkins

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4340290/Truth-t-like-says-KATIE-HOPKINS.html

AIBU to think Katie Hopkins is straying closer and closer to the line that separates legitimate "right wing" politics, and unacceptable "far right" extremism?

I find this article a) utterly incoherent in its argument and b) utterly abhorrent in its content....

Yesterday's attack is deeply deeply saddening- we live in London and we're heartbroken that this has happened again- but I actually find Katie's bile almost as saddening and troubling- as I fear these are views held by many many more people... sure these are just words, and yesterday saw vile, violent actions... but those actions would have begun with words of hate and anger too...

I don't see extremists living it up in a Saudi Arabia. I hope you are joking. If not, maybe try googling terrorist incidents in SA?

I disagree with lots of this article, but a part of it I agree with

Cheby says it better than I do.

Nutters and thugs have always tried to disrupt liberal societies. The early 70s saw a spate of anarchist bombings and shootings in London. In 1999 a racist with a nailbomb killed three people and injured dozens in the West End. When I was a kid, it was the IRA bombing our cities. They were a fuckton better at it than this lot, too.

All of these fuckers are just alienated, psychotic cunts. This particular lot have been inspired by Islamist death cult ideology. Others have been inspired by Irish republicanism, animal rights or anarchism.

Katie Hopkins is a narcissistic racist.

Like some other people, she sees things in black and white when life is far more complicated.

She is suited for the twitter soundbite generation where no thought is needed - just 140 characters.

I'm not doing a "wind them up and watch them go"- am reading all the replies- just in the midst of morning routine...

I grew up in inner city Bradford - often touted as one of the most "ghettoised" cities in the U.K. I lived in a very multicultural neighbourhood- lots of Indian Sikh neighbours, lots of Kashmiri Muslim neighbours, white British, Irish, Polish, and Chinese families ... I can honestly say I came across more white supremacists in Bradford, than radical muslims in my 17 years there.
And I know which I worried about more, once I was old enough to worry about such things.

I think we do live in a bubble sadly, as shown by the brexit shock result and the maps where London and Scotland were dominated by remain votes and the rest of England a very different story.

What exactly are you trying to say? It seems very much like you are saying that the rest of the UK are some sort of extremists because they voted leave.

All of these fuckers are just alienated, psychotic cunts. This particular lot have been inspired by Islamist death cult ideology. Others have been inspired by Irish republicanism, animal rights or anarchism

This.

Yes Kingprawn I agree with your view. She is not spreading hate by expressing her sadness and fear. I live in London and the fear I felt yesterday was similar to the kind she has expressed. How long can we live this way without giving in to our deep feelings of fear for our family & friends exposed daily to this wretched risk of being horribly killed or maimed? On this occasion I can appreciate how she feels.

I agree with most of what she has written.

Things have gone too far onto the soft liberal left side, we even had Khan a few months ago saying terrorism was “part and parcel of living in a big city”.

It will be if everyone has such a soft liberal attitude to it.

We need commentators like Katie and politicians like Trump to push back on this soft approach we currently have when talking about radical islamic terrorism.

She's a revolting, bigoted and pretty stupid individual. She is certainly expressing hate, her entire schtick is to try to drum up hate. I was in London yesterday, I did not witness what she is expressing, because she's making it up.

alienated, psychotic cunts

This. I loathe the way the article was written - emotive, alarmist crap from a narcissist.

Your concern is well understood Norma but as I said, this is really nothing new and absolutely reflects the fear that characterised living in London or any other big city in the 70s and this had NOTHING to do with Islam.

Of course we feel fear, sadness and anger after such a horrific attack; that doesn't automatically mean that we should descend into racism and hatred, which is exactly what she has done in that article.

As I went about my day yesterday I came into contact with many different people as events were unfolding, the conversations I heard pretty much mimicked her opinion.

People are angry and people always need someone to blame so as long as these attacks are happening these right wing views are going to be heard more. Sadly it's a vicious circle as it will push groups at either end into more extremist groups when really now is the time we should all be working together.

Once again: this is nothing new. And the insistence that this kind of act is inextricably bound up with Islam is hateful and divisive. Sorry to go for the broken record routine but it needs saying, especially when f wits like Hopkins are given free (free? I expect she is paid handsomely) rein.

I've had the pleasure of meeting her and she is a lovely, polite woman.

I've met her too. Words like 'lovely' and 'polite' were not words which came to mind. She is now more extreme, I will grant, and some of it is an act.

I don't like religion and I find a lot of Islam particularly unpalatable but I still think she's talking nonsense. She says that events like yesterday are 'everyday occurrences'. The last terrorist attack in London in which civilians died was nearly 12 years ago.

How long can we live this way?

For at least the 48 years I've been alive, we have lived this way. Some nasty bastards occasionally blow some of us up or crash shit into other shit in order to scare us or promote themselves. The rest of us find it abhorrent and evil. Evil never really makes much ground.

I think the difference between this and the IRA/nail bombs/anarchists is that extremist Islam is a worldwide and very powerful movement which poses a much, much greater threat.

I haven't read it but it annoys me when people liken what's happening now to what happened with the IRA.
Both terrorist groups for sure but Isis is a worldwide ideology. There seems to be people who are suggesting that because other groups have committed terrorist acts it is racist (Islam is not a race) to be concerned about radical Islam. I saw someone on FB yesterday going on about dunblane and likening this terrorist attack to that.
It is not the same. There is a significant minority (note minority) of Muslims who are waging an attack on western society. Regardless of the behaviour of other terrorist groups or religions or countries (and yes I include the uk in that) previously that is the current terrorist issue in the UK and further afield. It annoys me also when people say 'they aren't muslim' or 'they are just individual crazy people and the religion is irrelevant.' It is not irrelevant. Which religion to the terrorists identify as? The problem is as well that Islam encourages radical followers to martyr themselves. Where do you go with a group of people who aren't afraid to die? Who want to die so they can go to a version of heaven? How do you tackle that? I'm not sure integration is the answer - do they want to integrate?

She's right though. And the "far right" are the ones running over people on Westminster Bridge and stabbing policemen (aka ISIS), not the ones who write articles you don't agree with (but can debate with) and can choose not to read.

Why on earth would you think that Piglet? Please don't put insults that don't exist into my mouth.

The 'shock' of the brexit result is an example of the 'leftie liberal' bubble, along with the failure of pundits and political polls to take an accurate political temperature of the uk.

If you look at voting maps from Brexit it's very clear to see the divide. This is a fact, not the attack you imply. It happened.

The way the media voices of the left have historically dismissed people's concerns around immigration and employment (for example), on the grounds that any deviation from the leftie position is too close to racism, or is morally repugnant, added to the situation where views of many were hidden until the refit vote, which is a very good barometer of the views and attitudes to politics in the Uk at that time.

Not an accusation that the rest of England all paint their faces with red crosses and roam around the countryside looking for people to burn... cos that would be silly wouldn't it?

Ahem, not just London and Scotland that voted Remain. I don't know why people have such troubling remembering the long list of other major cities that voted Remain. It's very annoying.

There are always going to be people influenced by extremist thinking and that includes religious thinking. That influence can lead to acts of extremism which we have seen in London and elsewhere in the world.

I wonder how many extremists will be influenced by Hopkins words to take action?