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To feed the vegan child cheese

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cheesyinkent · 17/03/2017 20:00

NC for this to not out myself. DS 8 has a friend coming round for tea next week. The mother has stressed very heavily that he is vegan, can't touch any dairy or meat as it will make him very unwell. However ds says his favourite food is normal cheese and cheesy pizza. Apparently he has it all the time when away from his DM.

Who do I follow? I've looked in asda and could only find one vegan cheese, it didn't look like the pizza kind - more a spreadable cream cheese thing.

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1horatio · 17/03/2017 20:35

www.goodnessdirect.co.uk/cgi-local/frameset/detail/397001_Veganic_Pizza_Melty__Finely_Grated_200g.html

www.mozzarisella.co.uk/

Anyhow. Flavour intense tomato sauce, panfried (not deepfried) eggplant... It's so so lovely. If the child likes pepper, onions, olives etc.. That's really lovely. Or add some fake meat?

TwentyCups · 17/03/2017 20:35

The child may be lying to your son about how he 'always' eats cheesy pizza away from his mum - that might be nonsense, or in retaliation to teasing from others about being vegan (it happens).

Regardless, you do as the mother has asked. It's not your decision. In a few years he will be old enough to make his own mind up, until then it is up to her. it should be viewed similar to pork to Muslims - being vegan should be showed the same regard.

Ta1kinPeace · 17/03/2017 20:36

"vegan cheese"
GM soya from the US
Palm oil from the far east
Check the sources and ingredients before thinking its a good option

anything involving palm oil is killing Orangs

MiddleClassProblem · 17/03/2017 20:36

Either make a vegan pizza or tell DS you're not having pizza and dona vegan dish as there are plenty that many wouldn't even notice they were vegan.

AnnieAnoniMouse · 17/03/2017 20:37

I'm astounded you need to ask. You wouldn't if the child was Jewish or Muslim or whatever. Why less respect for these parents?

You have no idea why she has said it, nor do you need to. If you can't do as she's asked, then don't invite him over.

Tell your DS that neither of you know why his Mum insists on a vegan diet but she is his Mum and until he's older it's her decision and absolutely not your place to allow something she has forbidden. Irrespective of what it is.

1horatio · 17/03/2017 20:37

If what the child has said is true I do feel sorry for him. It would be awful to have such a restrictive diet imposed on you unnecessarily and against your wishes.
There are children that eat fries everyday. Some meat and the same few kinds of vegetables (pease, baked beans, carrots etc). Pizza (not the healthy kind...) once a week.

I'm not trying to start a war here. But being vegan isn't particularly restrictive.
Other children have far more limited diet choices at home...

Toobloodytired · 17/03/2017 20:37

DONT DO IT!!

my brother gets ill from cheese, red meat, fruit and veg. People think it's an exaggeration & still feed him the stuff as he does like it but it makes him so unwell.

Just because he likes it, doesn't mean he can eat it! I love onions and pickled eggs, can't eat them though!

venusinscorpio · 17/03/2017 20:37

How about veggie fajitas, mildly spicy, with fresh guacamole and some vegan cheese to sprinkle?

Annesmyth123 · 17/03/2017 20:38

You follow the mother. Why would this make you sad?

Beachedwh4le · 17/03/2017 20:38

We keep a vegan diet for ethical reasons, some cheese wouldn't kill my DS's but possibly the richness would upset their tummies.

I would be a bit upset if you ignored instructions Blush

TheNiffler · 17/03/2017 20:39

Vio-life is made with coconut oil, no orangs are harmed, and it's lower in calories and healthier than dairy cream cheese

1horatio · 17/03/2017 20:39

Check the sources and ingredients before thinking its a good option

If it's a one off thing. It's certainly not a worse option than factory farmed dairy products...

There is also organic, fair trade vegan cheese. Or she could make her own vegan cheese, but that's a bit of a hassle...

Hogs · 17/03/2017 20:40

You can buy vegan cheese from most supermarkets. Just load that on. Pizza Base = vegan, tomato sauce = vegan, veg toppings = vegan, fuck-tonne of vegan cheese. Job done.

streetch · 17/03/2017 20:40

I can't believe you're even asking tbh!

Sainsburys do a lovely vegan cheese in their free from section which actually melts, perfect for pizza!

sharktoothcushion · 17/03/2017 20:40

I would get a store bought pizza and make a vegan one, place both in the middle of the table and walk out of the room for a bit.

Obviously let the child know which is vegan and which isn't, and acted oh so shocked when pals friend hasn't eaten any of the vegan...

Of mum complains at least you offered a choice!

Ta1kinPeace · 17/03/2017 20:40

Which brands of "vegan cheese" are "ethical ?

If you are vegan you do not have cheese - simple

SugarLoveHeart · 17/03/2017 20:40

Why do people get so upset by the v word? You don't have to buy anything special. Just don't include meat or dairy. It's that simple!

TheNiffler · 17/03/2017 20:41

DD2 cannot tolerate dairy now she's been off it so long. She's stopped producing lactase, and cannot break down the lactose, gives her terrible stomach pains, and explosions.

triskele · 17/03/2017 20:43

Are you for real?

You must be really thick if you can't think up something vegan to feed the child.

blankmind · 17/03/2017 20:43

The mother has stressed very heavily that he is vegan, can't touch any dairy or meat as it will make him very unwell

This is all you need to know.

If you think you may feed him something by accident (please check the pizza base ingredients, loads of bread products contain milk) you also need to know does he carry an epipen and do you know how to use one?

Ta1kinPeace · 17/03/2017 20:44

Agree with sugar
Vegan meals are utterly delicious - so long as they exclude replicaproducts

a ton of veg and pulses and fruit and spices
wrapped up in an unleavened bread
does no need weird industrial produced stuff
to make it a meal

Witchend · 17/03/2017 20:45

He might love it and be prepared to eat it knowing he will be ill later.

One of dc's friends was like that with strawberries. She'd only been a little bit sick, and she thought it was worth it because she loved them so.
Then she had an extreme reaction one time. She didn't think a week of being in hospital was worth it and hasn't eaten them since.

1horatio · 17/03/2017 20:45

Which brands of "vegan cheese" are "ethical ?

Not sure about the UK. But there's "ethical" one in Switzerland. Or at least not less ethical than any normal produce (seeing as any kind of food, even things like apple or rice, lead to the death of some animals).

The homemade kind is pretty darn ethical as well, I guess.

TwentyCups · 17/03/2017 20:46

I would like to agree with tak1npeace - you really don't need fake cheeses or meats. The best vegan meals are from natural whole foods. However, I would never be anything but grateful if someone went to the effort to buy them for me!

lavenderandrose · 17/03/2017 20:46

Some people do take a strange delight in luring people away from the confines of vegetarianism or veganism.

It's a wanker thing to do.

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