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AIBU?

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To tell DH that this is too much?

745 replies

Alaia5 · 16/03/2017 13:11

I've posted about DH and his behaviour/ hobbies some months back, so apologies about another question.

DH has recently turned 45 and wants to go on an expedition to the North Pole. The expedition would take 80 days, plus another 2 weeks training prior to the expedition itself.

We have 4 DC aged 14, 12, 9 and 6, so not babies anymore. I also have MIL living nearby and she is a LOT to deal with on a day-to-day basis. In the 15 years we've been married I I've never held DH back from doing anything. He's away regularly due to work anyway, so I'm more than used to coping on my own for anything between one night to a week.

80 days though is practically 3 months and I'm surprised that I feel slightly panicked and tearful at the thought of him being away for that long. I'm not even sure if there will be wi-fi? On the other hand, it's for a great cause and I can see it's a once in a lifetime opportunity for him. I'm obviously worried about the impact of him being away on the DC as well, particularly our younger two.

AIBU to say this is too much or AIBU to let him go and have my DC be without their dad for 3 months? I know there are millions of single parents or people with partners in the forces which makes me think maybe I'm being a bit precious about the whole thing? DH is coming back from NY tomorrow night and wants to discuss it, but I genuinely don't know what to think. AIBU?

OP posts:
Tracyjane64 · 17/03/2017 18:01

When he comes back what will be the next thing that he needs to do because of his mid life crisis?? You and the children and your life together should be enough for him and if as you said he's away a lot anyway I would have thought he would enjoy family time?

Lalala7 · 17/03/2017 18:02

Alaia it is a difficult one :) Reading your clarifications, your husband when present sounds dedicated to you and the children - quite far from the typical city banker in competition with his ilk for having the most children/ the most exciting adventure etc which I had originally pictured. Then it is also true that as someone wrote this trip smells of personal jolly/ mid-life crisis - well, at least to me.
I would discuss this together many times (hopes and dreams, why now, growing up versus growing old what does it mean to him etc), and also ask you discuss it as a family, kids included. I would not stand in his way, just ensure it's a fully discussed adventure, that would necessarily involve all the family. Good luck.

ApproachingATunnel · 17/03/2017 18:03

How about putting that 55k towards DC future education then?.. Will you get a new car or equally expensive holiday as well?..

Madwoman5 · 17/03/2017 18:04

Yanbu. Being alone for a couple of weeks is one thing. Three months is something different. We all crave adventure but tame it when kids/silvers are in the picture. Wonderful opportunity and what an experience but it should not be your decision. He needs to be reminded of your joint commitments and make up his own mind as to whether it as a)fair and b)appropriate, especially considering the challenge of MIL...his mother.

Payitforward55 · 17/03/2017 18:04

I think he will be going but he really does need to sort out the practicalities of his mother. You cannot leave the children to go to her every time she needs someone day or night so to be fair to both you and his mum something would need to be arranged. Mum's of 4 are generally multitasking superwoman so you will get through the 3 months. I just hope you all feel enriched by it and there are no negative effects on all of you.

Mumsy6216 · 17/03/2017 18:06

I agree with Vickyg43. Well said. I wish there was a "like" button here.

SparklyUnicornPoo · 17/03/2017 18:08

I would let him go, but i think that's very much clouded by the fact that an expedition to the North pole is my dream, DH would let me go if we could afford it. its 3 months, your DC won't forget him in that time and he'll have so much to tell them when he gets back.

Something needs to be done about MIL though, even if he doesn't end up going something needs to change there for your sanity.

Mumsy6216 · 17/03/2017 18:11

Yes - but I suspect SparklyUnicornPoo thatnkthing can be done about MIL that quickly. I'm sorry but he is being selfish and needs to grow up.

Mumsy6216 · 17/03/2017 18:11

*that nothing

Keeptrackbetter · 17/03/2017 18:14

The kids get use to it quickly and stop asking after daddy, my OH works away sometimes Longest since having 2 kids is 6 weeks away 2 weeks home over Christmas & new year and 6 away again. I think I would let him go but you need him to put stuff in place with MIL to help you over this period, and plan proper small breaks for you before he goes and after he gets back. It is a really long time but the opportunity is unlikely to arrise again. In saying all that I know my OH wouldn't be happy for me to do it. Double Standards 😂

Orangetoffee · 17/03/2017 18:18

But sparkly it is not a life long dream for him, he has never mentioned going to the North Pole before.

Have a look at that website, it's uhmmm interesting. I am sure there are better alternatives out there.

5moreminutes · 17/03/2017 18:28

Alaia I was struck by your post at 15:03 or so

This is normalish in your circle, so you and he both think it is normal... Are you saying that your friends are tolerating their husbands having serial affairs because the pay off is an expensive lifestyle, so you think your husband is pretty good by comparison?

It would seem you are stuck in a rather sureal Real Housewives of Surrey (or wherever) scenario which your DH doesn't want you to know isn't "normal" for most people at all.

Perhaps he was resistant to you going back to work not only because it might require him to do the odd school run/ cook dinner/ juggle his work and extra curriculars around the kids and your work, but also out of fear you'd make new friends who are in more sane equal relationships and see how unusual yours is.

That website is insane and a joke though. Utterly delusional. Dangerous, unrealistic, unconvincing, inconsistent, all mixed together.

It certainly isn't for a good a cause; if they cared about climate change the would be "Ice Warriors" could each hand over their £18,000 - £54,000 to actual scientists to gather the data rather than going on a DIY boys own adventure with what must be vastly insufficient training.

The expedition may never happen. If it does it will probably fail or someone won't make it back unscathed. Either way he's assuming you won't read the text if he's trying to say he has to do all 80 days.

DoingThisRight · 17/03/2017 18:29

Yanbu op, I can't even manage my dh even wanting to be away from us no matter what lifetime adventure comes up. 3 months is a long time and I think the fact that it's a choice rather than a necessity like a job it's worse, selfish of him.

Hulder · 17/03/2017 18:30

Sparkly it isn't just 3 months though - have a look at this from a blog from a previous recruit:

pookielondon.wordpress.com/category/training-2/

This woman's whole life was consumed by training for it, doing 1/2 marathons after work every day, endless kettle bells, running dragging tyres behind her every weekend. Without including all the training camps, sponsorship meets etc. She describes it as a second job.

And then she didn't actually go on an expedition.

Fine if you are single but when is Alaia's DH supposed to see her or their children? This is really not about letting him go for 3 months.

SpiritedLondon · 17/03/2017 18:36

Yes tell him he's free to crack on....as soon as you're happily ensconced with your next husband. Seriously though I would ask him what his strategy is for dealing with HIS mother while he's away ( expect blank looks all round ). He's already away a lot of the time so to choose to do something where he's away for such an extended time seems very unfair. Where is the quid pro quo in all this?

BeauMirchoff · 17/03/2017 18:37

How selfish. I'd be really sad if my OH wanted to leave me and our children for so long and I'd definitely question his priorities.
I smell midlife crisis.

doryella · 17/03/2017 18:38

I total understand you questioning ur self i wouldnt let mine go away for a night mind 3 mths he does go out with friend to pub n he does work 50 hr wks so i do have our son 2 yrs old at home with me 24/7 which is my choice i also work from home so i can be a 100% mummy... but our relationship wouldnt work if mind did it i am very high maintenance and need my man by my side... and cuddles at night... we have been together since i was 17 i moved in with him and we have ever only spent 1 night apart and that was because he was hospitalized

Annie1919 · 17/03/2017 18:41

When you have kids, you have to put them first... don't you? 3 months is a long time in a kid's life. Donate to the charity and deal with the midlife crisis in a more family friendly way, I say.

mumto2two · 17/03/2017 18:41

Good grief..if hubby announced something like that I would seriously flip! There are a lot of adventures we both would have liked to have embarked on once in a while..but our kids come first. This is not something that remotely prioritises his children, but himself. Our kids miss their dad desperately when he's away for 3 days let alone 3 months. And dare I say it..North pole expeditions come with risk factors way beyond the norm.

Deejoda · 17/03/2017 18:46

OP YANBU. Lots of good advice already. Don't you want to go to Spain for the summer holidays? Maybe go with the youngest DCs to spend quality time with your mum and your hubby can pay for the older ones to go on a summer camp of their choice? Basically, I would let him go if I could also have a bit of a break and definitely let him sort out care for the difficult MIL. Is the expedition conveniently around the summer holidays? I feel for you OP. You need to find a way of breaking out of your dysfunctional social circle and realise there is a huge imbalance in your relationship even if he has some good points

PoorYorick · 17/03/2017 18:48

OP, I hope my posts aren't making you cry! I'd much rather they made you laugh, though I have a serious point behind them. I have a slightly acerbic sense of humour that runs away with me sometimes. It's very easy for me to sit here at my keyboard being glib about an internet stranger's marriage but I'd never want to cause distress. I hope my posts are entertaining but also thought provoking in their way.

I just can't help but feel strongly about this because even though it's 2017, you just see this so much. Talented, intelligent, compassionate women having their identities and desires swamped and assimilated by a man's. It does you huge credit that you're appreciative of your financial situation, but just because your husband earns a lot doesn't mean he's bought you. Your contribution is just as valuable as his...more so, really, because he can't earn a huge amount without you doing the childcare and home life, whereas you could do everything you do even if he was unemployed. The money isn't solely his accomplishment, because he couldn't earn it without you. And apparently you can all do without him for three months but he can't do without you for 37 hours a week.

You're a qualified psychologist (or was it psychiatrist? I can't remember, sorry, but either way, it's an impressive professional accomplishment) and you're in a position to do some real good in the world with young people who would benefit from your skills. It's just galling that he can do anything from rugby to sodding polar expeditions and you're supposed to suck it up, but you can't even go back to work unless you can prove to him that The Family won't suffer.

I'm glad to hear of the nice things he does for you, but they really are the minimum one would expect. You're SUPPOSED to spend time with your children and give the main carer a break. You're SUPPOSED to be nice to your spouse. You're SUPPOSED to take sick relatives to hospital. And the fact he doesn't interfere with schools etc doesn't tell me he's empowering you, it tells me he thinks family life is your job.

The real question, which we haven't had answered yet is, would he make an actual sacrifice for something you wanted, the way you keep doing for him? I don't mean would he drive your kids somewhere if you were ill and unable to do it. I mean, if you had the opportunity to go visit a friend in Florida for two weeks, would he put in the groundwork at home to make that possible? If you wanted to pursue a hobby that meant he had to do rugby on alternate weeks so you could take it in turns to be out that evening, would he?

I don't think anyone is saying he's a bad person, but he DOES sound very self obsessed and as though he thinks his family are there to facilitate his self image. I'm sure he'd be horrified to hear it put in such blunt terms, but all his expectations of tea and home life and rugby friends and three month polar expeditions aren't the actions of a man who sees his wife and kids as full, rounded individuals with their own identities, needs and wants that aren't defined by his.

MooCahnt · 17/03/2017 18:49

Blimey, I let my husband absolutely walk all over me with regard to hobbies and childcare, but if he decided to go to the North Pole, and actually did it, he'd probably find a re-decorated house - in my taste with no thought whatsoever to his, all his geeky shite confined to a new shed, all his clothes decluttered to the bare minimum, several items of hobby equipment shredded, probably some new pets .... and then there's those items he would ' make a fortune with on ebay ' ... hmmm ...

Catherinebee85 · 17/03/2017 18:54

Do you get the same freedom and time for hobbies? YANBU at all for being concerned. 3 months is a long time to leave you on your own with 4 children.

Make sure you have something for yourself of your choosing. Relationships should be balanced xx

user1480459555 · 17/03/2017 18:54

Thankfully my husband would never ever be that selfish but if he suddenly decided he wanted to do something like this and did I would be gone when he got home.

Totally and utterly selfish and needs to grow up

DameFanny · 17/03/2017 18:54

Is there any actual point to mapping the North Pole? There's no land there, just ice. Detailed mapping - other than periodic depth etc measuring - would just be out of date year to year, no?

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