To ask how you feel about Article 50 being triggered tomorrow

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or at some point this month?

And I know there is a EU board tucked away somewhere but I'm interested in everyone's views.

I'll be honest, I'm still a bit confused as to how a vote to see how the country felt has become we're going ahead with it. I think there should have been a bigger margin for a win either way.
That being said, it's done, and I feel we may as well get on with it. I am scared of the unknown though, but if it has to happen, so be it....

Looking forward to something else being on news...

I hate the limbo feeling that you can't plan your life... sell up? Hold in? Will house prices crash? What will happen to jobs? Should we try that business idea? Will we be able to afford life as we've known it?

At least if it happens it's less like a sword hanging over your head

How do I feel?

Appalled, disconcerted, very concerned about the economy, NHS, education, disgusted at the English mainstream pandering to small minded stupid little Englanders; I feel incredulous. And bitter! For now but we are working on our plan B.

We are a EU/English dual national family and are working on leaving the country. At least healthcare in my home country is outstanding in comparison to the NHS and there are more opportunities for our dc going forward. I'd consider going to Scotland too but seeing how small minded and nationalistic it's becoming the world over, I believe I want to go back to my 'home land' and be with people who speak my native language to feel safe and welcome. Luckily dh speaks my mother tongue fairly well so we will most likely take our high rate taxes and gladly pay them elsewhere.

I used to adore the UK but Brexit has brought out the worst in British politics, MPs are cowards, Media openly xenophobic and the PM and the nasty party in power are a disgraceful bunch of bigots. But most importantly it has shown how utterly incompetent our politicians are. I have no respect for these dilettantes.

I do like Nicola Sturgeon though. She kicks arse.

Once we are settled elsewhere I believe I will feel quite smug though, feeling sorry for those who don't have that option.

Well my business has already gone down the pan thanks to Brexit (it served me well for 8 years). Just hope dh's doesn't go the same way.

Grateful if I never have to hear the phrase 'the will of the people' again.

Grateful ds2 & ds3 can get Irish passports.

Assuming the Scots will vote for independence (I wouldn't have last time I would this time). I would vote for independence from the will of the people if I could remain in the EU.

Lucky Scots. How Nicola Sturgeon listened to May blathering and accusing her of wanting independence at all costs no matter the terrible impact on the people without wetting herself at the unbelievable irony I don't know.

I'd leave if I could myphotos but my eldest is severely disabled. I worry about the effect a crashing economy will have on the care of a young adult who requires 24 hour 2:1.

I will be delighted when Article 50 is triggered at last

I'll be somewhat apprehensive about a possible "punishment" attitude from the EU, and those who are still plotting to interrupt Brexit for reasons of power or money.

But once Brexit is complete, I'll be incredibly relieved and very positive about our country's future. I see the people of this country as strong, innovative, creative, independent and outward looking.

I'm looking forward to the return of all aspects of the independent democracy and sovereignty of the UK. I'll also be glad to escape "EU citizenship", which was forced on us all in the 90s, and which you can't renounce without also giving up your UK citizenship at the same time .

The EU isn't a country (yet) and there's no good reason why a trading group would need "citizens", a passport, anthem, flag, currency, parliament etc. Of course, the "four freedoms" (or "four unwise decisions" depending which way you see it) could have been obtained without all the "citizenship" stuff. The idea of citizenship was a device to make people feel more "connected" to the EU, as it integrates relentlessly, and which was only required because most of us did not feel an existing connection to the EU as a political bloc.

The plan has always been to become a superstate by stealth, and once that happens, how could the UK leave then? This is our last chance to escape.

Devilish i wish you and your dc the very best. Your post made me cry.

I live in Belfast, so pretty terrified to be honest. No matter how you personally feel about Brexit, it spells bad news for Northern Ireland. Especially given today's Scottish independence referendum news.

I find it really difficult to understand how anyone can think it's a good thing when the vast majority of expert opinion is saying it will likely have a long-term negative effect on the UK economy.

Exactly what catgirl said.

Also I just bought a house and have NO IDEA whether that was a good decision or a terrible one, and only time will tell. Argh.

Very sad. Not quite resigned, but getting there.

And angry about the resources and time which will be wasted over decades to come sorting this mess out.

From this perspective (EU-based expat), the UK now looks extremely vulnerable. We had a certain amount of respect that has been squandered in the handling of the Brexit vote and its aftermath.

There is very little appetite for anything other than a punishing deal here. Why would there be? I am fearful for the UK's future but would be delighted to be proved wrong.

Very sad and very worried. I hope that my worries are unfounded, but I don't think they will be.

Oh, and when I am not just being depressed about it, I feel:
-hopeful that Scotland will get independence and retain/ rejoin the EU as I could then move there.
-like I should be doing something to try and ensure that the way in which we Brexit is not totally at the whim of the party in power. But I am utterly stumped as to what that something should be.

How do I feel?

Fucking shit. Aghast at what this country has become and trapped because I can't leave. Raging against Corbyn for being such a wet blanket and sitting back and doing NOTHING when he could have made a difference. Utterly flummoxed that a decision as important as this has been handled so badly and put into the hands of people who don't have the educational or the intellectual capacity to understand the implications of their vote.

Well you did ask.

I find MyPhotos' post quite interesting. She started somewhere on the continent, now lives in England, would consider Scotland but will go somewhere in the EU.
No loyalty to community, nation or the bigger picture; just what currently suits her family. That's the EU dream.

And you myphotos. Some of Ds1's carers are heading back and I understand why. I hope your move home goes well and your children settle well. xx

As for the UK being outward looking toast. Seriously? I wish.

Emsler - I have been visiting Northern Ireland annually since
1992 - I hope to god this doesn't spell a return to the divisions of the past.

SeekEvery Irony is Sturgeon wanting independence from the UK but not being independent from the EU. Because even if she got her second referendum (which she won't; May couldn't possibly grant it, because she'd precedent for another EU referendum), nothing will prevent Scotland from leaving the UK along with the rest of us. Scotland will have to apply for membership (not reapply, they are a new entity in the EU eyes) and that could take years and assumes the EU will want them as part of it and that Scotland don't mind all the conditions and laws that will be part of it. They would be no more independent than they are now. THAT'S irony.

No loyalty to community, nation or the bigger picture; just what currently suits her family.

Why should she have any loyalty? The "nation" hasn't exactly shown any to her - or respect, or a sense of being valued - by treating her and others like her as a bargaining chip.

What MyPhotos and Sukey said.

Furious. Sad. Scared. Disappointed.

Perplexed at how anyone can think this is a good thing for England, Scotland or especially Ireland.

I'm in the 'sad and worried' camp.

The kids all have the option of French nationality from their father which they may take (that's if Marine Le Pen doesn't win, obvs) but I'm a bit fucked, to be honest.

Oh, and I don't think I will ever feel anything other than anger and disgust towards David Cameron. I feel that even more strongly now that A50 is imminent.

Holding a referendum: well, okay (I wish he hadn't, but can see that this was important to many people). But mishandling the referendum so that a (basically) 50/50 result was possible, arrogantly assuming that people wouldn't vote to leave and then sodding off leaving the country divided right down the middle with no plan is unforgivable.

I don't feel any loyalty towards Little Englander UK. If I wasn't tied here for family reasons I'd be looking at moving 'anywhere except the UK' at the moment.

I'm very fearful TBH. Fear of the unkown. No one has a clue.

And if people think WTO agreements happen quickly, they don't. Our kids will not be able to participate in Erasmus exchanges or study in another EU country. There is just so much uncertainty. It's bloody awful frankly.