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To want him fired

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StupidSlimyGit · 09/03/2017 17:56

I've name changed for this as it could be very identifying and it's going to be a long one sorry. I'm open to being told I'm being unreasonable but want some advice.
I work for a very large retail company in one of their smallish stores as does my DP, we have maybe around 100 colleagues at most and I always thought it was a pretty friendly place to work.
I've not long had a baby, back when I was pregnant my dp had a wobble and we took a break so we could both decide what we wanted, we are back together now and have been happily so for several months. When I was about 6 months pregnant a colleague I don't know very well but who I shd worked with on occasion added me on facebook and sent me some very explicit messages. Also asked for photos of me baked, holding my boobs, in a nightie etc. I laughed the whole thing off, made fun of him for asking and blocked him from messaging me. He made it very clear in these messages he had been looking at my breasts while I was working and I found it very uncomfortable to work around him after that. I didn't report it because said colleague was recently married and had a baby of his own a few weeks old at home aswell as another child and I felt guilty that I could ruin his life. My dp when we got back together noticed how uncomfortable I was and asked about it, then, when told about the messages, went to see our stores manager without my permission who called me into her office to discuss it. I showed her the messages and discussed it but didn't put in a formal complaint as I didn't want it to end up with him fired and his wife and children in trouble financially. It was agreed that the manager would have a talk with him about appropriate behaviour, warn him that if anything like this happened again he would be in trouble, then we could all move on with our lives. That was then done. I have wondered whether I should tell his wife but not done so because I don't know if it's my place?
Since then I've found out that he has done this to other women where I work, including making one so uncomfortable she has quit her job. I have been very unsure since then on whether I made the right decision, should I have taken the offer of a formal disciplinary to make sure he knows he can't get away with it even if it meant he might have been fired?
Since then I've had my baby and noticed when I go in to do my shopping tiny town, only really one option to shop plus I get staff discount there is a real atmosphere when I'm around the team he works with and people he talks to a lot. I feel incredibly uncomfortable and am visibly shunned when I'm there which has made my preexisting anxiety worse and has made returning to work at the end of my maternity leave seem terrifying.
Today when shopping several people sniggered as I walked past, and I got up the courage to ask someone I'm friends with and can trust if she had heard anything. She admitted that everyone has heard about me and him sexting while I was pregnant and the naked photos I sent to him, apparently he has even shown some of the boys the photos!!!! I didn't send anything so they can't be me and certainly haven't engaged in sexting, I still have the conversation on my phone to prove it. Now I was single at the time, so it isn't like it could ruin my life, and my DP has seen the conversation between me and colleague on my phone so he knows nothing went on anyway, but I feel like my reputation is in shreds. I've been trying not to cry since I got home and I'm shaking knowing what they think of me and what bits of me some of the male colleagues think they have seen. I have agoraphobia and it's taken me so long to get into work and think of it as one of my safe zones, now I'm trembling at the thought of going back. I want to be sick.
DP and I can't afford for me not to work, so I cant just quit till I find something else, but I don't know what to do now. WIBU to go back to my manager, tell her what is being said and demand he has some serious repercussions? What about going to head office and requesting an internal investigation hopefully leading to him being moved/fired?
I feel guilty because it would be horrible for his wife to find out this way and I keep thinking about his kids but surely he is the one in the wrong? Should I tell his wife?
Sorry for length I'm trying not to drip feed.

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StupidSlimyGit · 15/05/2017 20:45

He did genuinely believe what dds father told him. He has been punished severely including suspension without pay during the investigation but because he has evidence of what he was told and no reason at all to not believe it they have to try to strike a balance.
I'm supposed to go back in a couple of months. They've been all over each other in the store apparently making it obvious, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do now. Just a complete laughing stock aren't I Sad so fucking stupid

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TheHauntedFishtank · 15/05/2017 20:45

Oh sweetheart Flowers

If you feel up to it you could start a new thread in Relationships (or ask to have this one moved), you'll get brilliant advice there.

CatsCatsCats11 · 15/05/2017 21:17

I've just read your whole thread I'm so sorry to hear about the two scumbags in your life. Sad

C0untDucku1a · 15/05/2017 21:23

Are you no longer woth your dp then?

QuietNinjaTardis · 15/05/2017 21:27

This is your "d"p? So he's cheating and he encouraged the bloke to harass you? Or have I misunderstood? No wonder you feel sick. I just do not know what to say to your update. At least dickbloke at work is getting dealt with.

StupidSlimyGit · 15/05/2017 21:33

I can't leave right now, he doesn't know I know. I've started a new thread here about it. Why do I always attract such arseholes? Shaking so hard

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RandomMess · 15/05/2017 21:34

Go back with your head held high! These people are utter scum and you are so much better than them Flowers

liquidrevolution · 15/05/2017 21:35

wtaf!

I am gobsmacked. And you must be completely blindsided by this.

I am so sorry this has happened to you. Do you have any friends or family locally that are supporting you?

StupidSlimyGit · 15/05/2017 21:41

I have noone locally at all. My mom and dad are limited contact and on the other side of the country, the rest of my family have moved abroad years ago. I struggle to make friends because of my MH issues and I don't really want to trust the few I have from where I work right now because I don't know who knew and didn't say anything. How many people are protecting them?
Thankyou everyone for being so nice, I'm crying again but I'm glad I have mumsnet tonight Flowers

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Willow2017 · 15/05/2017 22:42

Oh 'Stupid what a crock of shit.
These 'men' arent worth the time of day.

I hope your support at HQ is going to deal with your crappy manager too, she KNEW!! Wow just wow what a stupid cow.

You need to take stock, get all your ducks in a row ready to kick the pratt out. I cannot believe how he has done this while you are supporting him with his work problems!

Oh and no he has absolutely NO reason to believe your p when he said that, he should have checked with you first. Your manager is wrong, if someone had told him that SHE wanted pics of his dick would she think it ok? Bloody sure she wouldnt.

Willow2017 · 15/05/2017 22:46

'Stupid' would you consider calling womens aid? They will support you through this, what these men did was abuse and you need a friend just now.

Take care of yourself, dont let the bastards get you down, hold your head high you are worth a million of them.

HelenaDove · 15/05/2017 23:14

Oh my God this is your CURRENT DP Shock I thought it was an ex What an absolute bastard.

Willow has a good point.

You could call Womens Aid What theyve done is abuse.

Pentapus · 15/05/2017 23:51

Horrified by this update.

Doesn't it rather mean that the original "harrasser" was actually in collusion with your DP and the sexual harrassment at your workplace was thus a joint enterprise, and so your DP should also go through work disciplinary for this?

That of course is aside from the larger non-work issue that your relationship is, or should be, over.

StupidSlimyGit · 16/05/2017 00:00

Sniffles, thankyou everyone, I really appreciate the support. I don't think I can call womrns aid, I've been in a situation in the past when I needed them and as horrible as this is I don't think it's the sort of thing I should use them for. I'd hate to see them waste any valuable resources on me when a woman out there could be in serious danger and news that place.

They only showed me the messages to ask if I knew anything about them etc, they had to check what was in them wasn't the truth Hmm the other guy wont know I was shown. The manager is painting it as she was trying to protect me Angry she "knew I'd be devastated" if I found out dp and this cleaner were together so when she spoke to the twat about the messages he sent and found out she thought if it never went formal I "wouldn't have to know" Angry clearly they all think I'm fucking stupid.

I see my psychiatrist next week thankfully (timing!) so I can speak to them about upping my support for the next few months.

I've finally got DD to sleep (been up since 5) so I'm going to try sleep myself for a few hours before I start making plans. Thankyou again

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Willow2017 · 16/05/2017 07:46

This is abuse and you deserve support as much as anyone else. Please call women's aid. Take all the help you can to get through this. They can help you get rid of that utter bastard from your home and get all the legal help you need.

Stay strong, hope you got a decent sleep.

StupidSlimyGit · 16/05/2017 07:57

I didn't get much sleep but I'm calmer today thankyou. I'm going to go to CAB and talk to work and see what my options are. Thanks again for the support. Flowers

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Willow2017 · 16/05/2017 07:59

Make sure your p is disciplined at work for what he did too. If the other guy is disciplined then do should your p.

Drag them both through the ringer they are scum.

BigGreenOlives · 16/05/2017 08:12

I read your thread when you posted in March & have just read your update. I'm very sorry to read that you have had such a hard time & wish you well. Brew

GoatsFeet · 16/05/2017 08:22

I'm supposed to go back in a couple of months. They've been all over each other in the store apparently making it obvious, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do now. Just a complete laughing stock aren't I

No, you're not!

Most people have a good moral compass and will be shocked by your soon to be ex-P's behaviour. He has been unfaithful, aided & abetted sexual harassment & misconduct at work, and all while you were pregnant. Good normal people will not be laughing at you, they will be condemning his behaviour. Hold your head high!

SapphireStrange · 16/05/2017 12:54

telling him how... I would like it if he sent messages like that to me

Sorry, what? Hmm They couldn't do anything because the twat was acting on, basically, malicious hearsay?

So more evidence that your misogynistic workplace has a culture of believing someone with a penis over a female employee. Unless your manager is willing to take steps to change the culture there her apology means nothing.

I agree with this. Please get the best advice you can from CAB, a lawyer, whoever. This is outrageous.

RandomMess · 16/05/2017 13:06

I do wonder if your P has actually committed an offence - inciting sexual harassment of someone...

Flowers
SapphireStrange · 16/05/2017 13:40

I do wonder if your P has actually committed an offence - inciting sexual harassment of someone...

Yes, me too. I'd be very interested in a lawyer's view of this.

WellErrr · 16/05/2017 14:02

Wow. You poor thing Flowers

Kokusai · 16/05/2017 14:10

Fucking hell. So actually it was your 'D'P causing all this all along. OMG. What a nasty. nasty, nasty piece of work.

I hope his dick get gangrene and falls off.

SantasLittleMonkeyButler · 16/05/2017 14:24

I'm also wondering whether your "D"P has committed an offence.

He has encouraged somebody to sexually harass you. Of course the slime ball didn't have to go along with the suggestion but still! For me, I'd almost find that a worse betrayal than the affair with a colleague Sad. Slime ball had form for sexual harassment - how did "D"P know he wouldn't end up physically assaulting you? And all by invitation Hmm.

Can you request a transfer to a different branch when you return to work? Or better still, can HR send "D"P to work at a different store? preferably with the OW & slime ball.

I'm so sorry OP. How the hell can "D"P have done this, then gone along with your official complaint, knowing all along that it was his own fault and that his affair would end up being revealed? It really beggars belief Flowers.