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To want him fired

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StupidSlimyGit · 09/03/2017 17:56

I've name changed for this as it could be very identifying and it's going to be a long one sorry. I'm open to being told I'm being unreasonable but want some advice.
I work for a very large retail company in one of their smallish stores as does my DP, we have maybe around 100 colleagues at most and I always thought it was a pretty friendly place to work.
I've not long had a baby, back when I was pregnant my dp had a wobble and we took a break so we could both decide what we wanted, we are back together now and have been happily so for several months. When I was about 6 months pregnant a colleague I don't know very well but who I shd worked with on occasion added me on facebook and sent me some very explicit messages. Also asked for photos of me baked, holding my boobs, in a nightie etc. I laughed the whole thing off, made fun of him for asking and blocked him from messaging me. He made it very clear in these messages he had been looking at my breasts while I was working and I found it very uncomfortable to work around him after that. I didn't report it because said colleague was recently married and had a baby of his own a few weeks old at home aswell as another child and I felt guilty that I could ruin his life. My dp when we got back together noticed how uncomfortable I was and asked about it, then, when told about the messages, went to see our stores manager without my permission who called me into her office to discuss it. I showed her the messages and discussed it but didn't put in a formal complaint as I didn't want it to end up with him fired and his wife and children in trouble financially. It was agreed that the manager would have a talk with him about appropriate behaviour, warn him that if anything like this happened again he would be in trouble, then we could all move on with our lives. That was then done. I have wondered whether I should tell his wife but not done so because I don't know if it's my place?
Since then I've found out that he has done this to other women where I work, including making one so uncomfortable she has quit her job. I have been very unsure since then on whether I made the right decision, should I have taken the offer of a formal disciplinary to make sure he knows he can't get away with it even if it meant he might have been fired?
Since then I've had my baby and noticed when I go in to do my shopping tiny town, only really one option to shop plus I get staff discount there is a real atmosphere when I'm around the team he works with and people he talks to a lot. I feel incredibly uncomfortable and am visibly shunned when I'm there which has made my preexisting anxiety worse and has made returning to work at the end of my maternity leave seem terrifying.
Today when shopping several people sniggered as I walked past, and I got up the courage to ask someone I'm friends with and can trust if she had heard anything. She admitted that everyone has heard about me and him sexting while I was pregnant and the naked photos I sent to him, apparently he has even shown some of the boys the photos!!!! I didn't send anything so they can't be me and certainly haven't engaged in sexting, I still have the conversation on my phone to prove it. Now I was single at the time, so it isn't like it could ruin my life, and my DP has seen the conversation between me and colleague on my phone so he knows nothing went on anyway, but I feel like my reputation is in shreds. I've been trying not to cry since I got home and I'm shaking knowing what they think of me and what bits of me some of the male colleagues think they have seen. I have agoraphobia and it's taken me so long to get into work and think of it as one of my safe zones, now I'm trembling at the thought of going back. I want to be sick.
DP and I can't afford for me not to work, so I cant just quit till I find something else, but I don't know what to do now. WIBU to go back to my manager, tell her what is being said and demand he has some serious repercussions? What about going to head office and requesting an internal investigation hopefully leading to him being moved/fired?
I feel guilty because it would be horrible for his wife to find out this way and I keep thinking about his kids but surely he is the one in the wrong? Should I tell his wife?
Sorry for length I'm trying not to drip feed.

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Gonzales27 · 25/03/2017 17:11

Stay strong, none of this is your fault!! 💐

ohidoliketobebesidethecoast · 25/03/2017 17:26

Try the ACAS website for info on the rules for disciplinary process, appeals etc. I believe that if a company doesn't follow a process within their guidelines it makes it difficult for them to win an employment tribunal. I know you're hoping not to end up taking the company to one of those, but it provides a useful reference to judge their behaviour against (and there may be a point where it is useful to politely point out (probably in writing) that they're acting contrary to ACAS guidelines, to indicate that you are not daft, and to make them think about the possibly expensive consequences of flouting the rules..).
I am not an expert tho, so if you can get a free session of employment law advice, I would list some questions and try that.

HiggeldyPiggeldy · 25/03/2017 22:58

can you put this on legal as well? maybe someone there can help

StupidSlimyGit · 13/04/2017 16:26

Just an update, I had a meeting today with an out of area manager sent by head office who is fuming and going to investigate and deal with the guy. They are also going to speak to the people involved in spreading the rumour as this is anti social and counts as misconduct. I'm so relieved!!!

Thankyou everyone!!!!!

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BringMeTea · 13/04/2017 16:30

That is great news! Let's hope the little shit learns a lesson.

redexpat · 13/04/2017 16:34

Great update! Very promising. Keeping everything crossed for a good resolution.

MadameCholetsDirtySecret · 13/04/2017 16:36

That is great news.

FooFighter99 · 13/04/2017 16:51

Well done for sticking to your guns and sticking up for yourself!

DJBaggySmalls · 13/04/2017 16:52

So pleased to hear your update, good luck Smile

CoalTit · 13/04/2017 16:56

Very happy to hear this, OP!

trixymalixy · 13/04/2017 17:08

Fingers crossed for you!

CherriesInTheSnow · 13/04/2017 17:09

I would not for a second let this fucking scumbag get away with that, what the actual fuck!!! You need to confront him, in front of his co-workers, I bet he doesn't have the balls lie in front of you.

I remember in my first job when i was sixteen, this guy in his twenties took me out for a couple of super tame dates and proceeded to tell everyone we worked with that we had done all sorts of sordid things.. I remember how mortifying that was, and I never confronted him and I always, always wish I had. It would also have set the story straight!

RandomMess · 13/04/2017 17:09

So glad to read this! Shocking how one poor manager can cause serious issues by not dealing with a problem as soon it arises.

CherriesInTheSnow · 13/04/2017 17:10

Ooops, sorry I missed your update in my rage on your behalf Blush

Wonderful news Grin Flowers

CoraPirbright · 13/04/2017 17:13

Fantastic update. Thank you OP, and best of luck. Hope the slime ball gets fired!

picklemepopcorn · 13/04/2017 17:13

Hooray! I hope this resolves properly!

diddl · 13/04/2017 17:18

Only just seen this & I hope that it all works out OK for you.
I'm sure that it has been said, but you won't have ruined his life-he will.

Sad isn't it that women still think about the affect on others before complaining.

What/who was he thinking about when he started this?

AnnieAnoniMouse · 13/04/2017 17:19

That's great news! 💐

Just in time for 🐰🍫

SapphireStrange · 13/04/2017 17:21

I've just caught up with all this. Appalling. I hope he gets what he deserves, OP.

GlassSeahorse · 13/04/2017 17:36

Just de-lurking to say that you are fabulous, OP. So strong and an inspiration. I hope that that bastard gets all he deserves. You should be proud of yourself Wine

StupidSlimyGit · 13/04/2017 17:46

Blush Thank you everyone, I definitely wouldn't have taken it further without everyone's support and advice.
I'm hoping because I'm off work for a while longer it will be old news everyone's forgotten about by the time I go back. Is that too much to hope for? Blush Not sure how I will face the male staff who think they have seen compromising photos of me without dying of embarrassment.

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Greenkit · 13/04/2017 17:50

Bloody hell, just read the thread.

Well done for sticking with it, bloody scum bag should be sacked, along with the incompetent managers

Evilstepmum01 · 13/04/2017 22:13

Wow, what a nasty bully that guy is! Well done for standing up to him and for yourself.

Fingers crossed he gets fired and/or transferred!

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GeekLove · 14/04/2017 07:09

I f the other male staff are reasonable human beings then they will be as appalled at him as you are. You have nothing to be ashamed of.

StupidSlimyGit · 14/04/2017 17:30

I f the other male staff are reasonable human beings

Sadly I don't think they are, several have been shown and none thought to tell me or report it to management SadAngry The saddest thing about this whole situation is how it's made me look at everyone in the store not just the git involved and manager who wouldn't deal with it. Surely any normal person would report someone showing compromising photos of another member of staff to the person involved/management? Certainly wouldn't be talking about it and having a laugh and joke in the staff room!

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