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To be terrified about what will happen if the Gender Identity Bill is passed?

999 replies

TheWorldAccordingToToads · 08/03/2017 19:42

I'm a nervous wreck right now Sad

Will it replace sex as a protected characteristic? Does that mean that women will have no legal protection at all?

I'm scared Sad.

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WobblyLegs5 · 09/03/2017 17:29

Then what else can we do? To anyone who knows this stuff

BevGoldbergsSister · 09/03/2017 17:33

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

augustbody · 09/03/2017 17:37

Why do we have to accept men being violent towards women and transwomen as just 'one of those inevitable things that all the education in the world won't change' but women being uncomfortable sharing their spaces with people with penises as completely unacceptable and something we need to stamp out?

WobblyLegs5 · 09/03/2017 17:38

Yes but how? That's what I'm asking. I certainly couldn't ever physically attended anything, with the circumstances I have currently, but what other ways are there?

I argue non stop with people on Twitter about this subject, I post links to information there. I have posted links to the petition on what I thought were pro women sites only to get attacked and flamed (experienced the sane when I voiced outrage at the government lack of response to un report on disability violations.....) so where else to start? How do people form political protest groups? I guess I was stoned during that lesson in school.....

WobblyLegs5 · 09/03/2017 17:38

That was to bev

JCo24 · 09/03/2017 17:41

Biscuit the transphobia is disgusting on this forum.

augustbody · 09/03/2017 17:44

the transphobia is disgusting on this forum.

Please could you elaborate?

Are you actually willing to engage in any of the points or did you just come here to drop 'transphobia' and then flounce like everyone else seems to?

CharlottaBronte · 09/03/2017 17:45

There we go. Transphobia accusation equals attempt to silence women, who have never said that transgender people don't have a right to exist.

DianaMemorialJam · 09/03/2017 17:45

biscuit the transphobia is disgusting on this forum

Please could you point out the posts you refer to?

sibys1 · 09/03/2017 17:46

It is amazing how this turned into a 28-page thread when the simple answer to the OP's 2 questions seems to be 'no' and 'no'.

DianaMemorialJam · 09/03/2017 17:47

ODFO.

BenLinusatemyhomework · 09/03/2017 17:47

We have to speak up. We cannot silently acquiesce to this.

We have to be courageous and accept that there maybe painful consequences to our outspokenness, but there will, for sure, be painful consequences if we don't.

I've started posting on Facebook. Tbh, I've not had any backlash as yet but I think that's because I'm perceived by many as exceptionally nice and easy going so I think it's confusing people. I'm sure I'll lose a few friends over it, but I'm willing to sacrifice my "popularity" for this.

PageNowFoundFileUnderSpartacus · 09/03/2017 17:47

We're not transphobic. We're transwacktivistphobic. We're male-violence-phobic. We're women-getting-shafted-yet-again-phobic.

DianaMemorialJam · 09/03/2017 17:50

I'm going to own the 'transphobic' label. If TRAs think that's what I am, even though they know it's not true, then so be it.

So now what? Now what the fuck do they do?

Women's protection is more important to me than what a bunch of arrogant toddlers think.

DianaMemorialJam · 09/03/2017 17:51

That was supposed to say tossers not toddlers, but let's run with that...

Hellothereitsme · 09/03/2017 17:52

I'm too scared to post any of this on my FB. Look at the grief Jenni got at the BBC for being fairly neutral. Didn't MN have issues with this last year when her house was raided. I'm not sure how we fight this,

BenLinusatemyhomework · 09/03/2017 17:52

It's amazing how often on threads, you get posters who don't want to engage in discussion but enjoy flashing their shiny moral superiority at everyone.

Shrug. Takes all sorts.

CharlottaBronte · 09/03/2017 17:53

Arrogant toddlers. Grin

CharlottaBronte · 09/03/2017 17:54

yep I am too scared to share on FB too, having seen very moderate and respectful women be screamed to 'fuck off TERF' quite a bit now.

grannytomine · 09/03/2017 17:54

I've never thought it an issue to be examined by a male doctor or male nurse. They are professional people, their private life is none of my business. I would object to being examined by someone who I found threatening but that could be a man or a woman trans or otherwise.

merrymouse · 09/03/2017 17:55

granny, the point is to have the choice.

Skooba · 09/03/2017 17:57

I have written to M Miller saying I am against the bill with a bit about why but I suspect it is just a numbers game. So at least I will be counted.
It's an easy thing to do and everyone should write or email.

VestalVirgin · 09/03/2017 17:58

Saying 'if a man wants to kill someone he will do it whatever' does not mean we should just be letting men into women only places Willy nilly!

No, it is only more reason to keep them out.

A man will certainly not be stopped by having to claim that he's a woman in his attempts to kill a woman.

However, he will be stopped by no one telling a male where the women's house is, and by no one letting him in.

CharlottaBronte · 09/03/2017 17:58

some people, especially those who have suffered some form of abuse, would not be comfortable with intimate examinations with a male doctor [many of whom now offer a female member of staff to be present] or with sharing spaces where they are naked, like changing rooms, with people with penises.

Datun · 09/03/2017 17:59

Transphobic directly translates as shut up you uppity women.