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To be terrified about what will happen if the Gender Identity Bill is passed?

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TheWorldAccordingToToads · 08/03/2017 19:42

I'm a nervous wreck right now Sad

Will it replace sex as a protected characteristic? Does that mean that women will have no legal protection at all?

I'm scared Sad.

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averylongtimeago · 09/03/2017 14:18

Tiger, do you never try on clothes, go swimming, to the gym, need the loo when you are away from home?

PageStillNotFound404 · 09/03/2017 14:21

Thank you for that post Scissorcisters Flowers

Elendon · 09/03/2017 14:24

I've never bought a house that has had an urinal in it. Has anyone else? Why should urinals be in a public space? Men pee quite comfortably in their own shared homes with females (mostly).

Bambambini · 09/03/2017 14:26

Well, i use a communal gym changing room and the cubicle showers, public loos practically every day.

There was a case in the US where a woman complained to her gum about the large obvious male using the women's changing room - the gyms answer was to cancel her membership and throw her out.

This ideology is holding women and girls yo the whims of men. We are being controlled and gaslighted by men. It's unbelievable. Iris comparing objecting to males in females places/sports etc to racism is sn absolute joke.

Elendon · 09/03/2017 14:33

Great post Scissorcistors

especially this all humans should feel respected and safe

CharlottaBronte · 09/03/2017 14:38

excellent posts MarytheCanary and ScissorSisters. Flowers

morningrunner · 09/03/2017 14:38

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BevGoldbergsSister · 09/03/2017 14:38

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Doyouwantabrew · 09/03/2017 14:42

God almighty Bev what's that about? What's this pack?

WobblyLegs5 · 09/03/2017 14:45

But middle, when it comes to 'trans children' that is exactly what is being taught- male child 2/3/4/5 like pink dresses and dolls so ofcourse he is really a girl and vice versa. This is horrific lynne damaging to the actual children victimised by this (especially if life damaging puberty blockers are brought into it) and for natal (can I say that?) Girls and boys who are now being influenced, in school as well, by this made up pink brain blue brain suedo science that does nothing but renforce very very regressive gender stereotypes

BevGoldbergsSister · 09/03/2017 14:47

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jellyfrizz · 09/03/2017 15:01

What about transwomen who have had surgery and are worried about men who decide to go into a space because they know that transwomen are in there and decide to attack them because they are even more vulnerable in a lone space? Or a transwomen who has had surgery and does not want to expose herself in front of someone who has a penis?

So, exactly the same reasons that women don't want men in their spaces?

Surely this is all arseways at the moment. Why can't it be a hate crime for men to confront non gender conforming men in their spaces? Expand the bandwith of what it means to be a man. Ged rid of all the gender norms instead of narrowing them.

drspouse · 09/03/2017 15:06

Bev please tell me they don't have a primary school curriculum?

Doyouwantabrew · 09/03/2017 15:07

Bev thankyou for the link but my blood pressure is soaring! How fucking dare they!!!

roarityroar · 09/03/2017 15:12

Diana - that is both terrifying and grammatically abhorrent

BevGoldbergsSister · 09/03/2017 15:14

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DianaMemorialJam · 09/03/2017 15:17

Diana - that is both terrifying and grammatically abhorrent

Yep.

Im disturbed by it. Not really much else to say tbh.

Doyouwantabrew · 09/03/2017 15:20

What can we do. We can't have this

VestalVirgin · 09/03/2017 15:28

This ideology is holding women and girls yo the whims of men. We are being controlled and gaslighted by men. It's unbelievable. Iris comparing objecting to males in females places/sports etc to racism is sn absolute joke.

If not wanting men in women's spaces is like racism, then why is Rachel Dolezal bad, but transwomen are okay?

Can anyone tell me that?

Oddsockspissmeoff · 09/03/2017 15:32

Crossdressing is a recognized sexual fetish. I think people don't understand the difference between trans people and those with this sexual fetish. I've read some of the forums and it's very very disturbing.

transgenderreality.com/tag/autogynephilia/

outofmypantiesnow.wordpress.com/2013/10/28/when-is-90-not-substantially-all/

Elendon · 09/03/2017 15:40

Why are we pandering to men when it comes to toilets? They have their expensive system in place regardless of what men who trans want.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urinal

Would you share a female urinal with a man?

Elendon · 09/03/2017 15:44

Can you imagine the outcry if urinals were no longer being used in public places? Gosh, men would have to queue. Imagine that? This would be an exercise To SAVE MONEY --and teach men basic hygiene. And to also allow those who are trans to have equal access.

Stardust1901 · 09/03/2017 15:45

Absolutely disgusting.

I'm fed up of this trans bullshit!

reallyanotherone · 09/03/2017 15:47

"Transgender is anyone who challenges gender norms" from bev's link...

Fuck me, i'm transgender. Anyone who stands up and says "boys don't all like cars", or "girls like trains" is transgender?

What they are teaching our children is that "girly girl" is the only acceptable face of female, whatever the biological sex.

WobblyLegs5 · 09/03/2017 15:49

And alot of the high profile men transioning publicly emulate a males opinion of what women should be, and men think there nothing wrong with women being prostitutes (as long as it's not their wife or daughter or sister) generally speaking ofcourse

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