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Tap Dancing around the Truth with Trump - 44 days in for POTUS 45.

937 replies

Dumdedumdedum · 06/03/2017 15:21

The Trump thread, continued from here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2867981-I-never-met-someone-from-NM-to-discuss-MN-Honest-Trump-thread-cont?watched=1&msgid=67412870#67412870

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Dumdedumdedum · 06/03/2017 18:53

According to the BuzzFeed article, which I must confess, I understood better than I did the ACLU Mass. comparison, the original ban Muslims order has been watered down immensely. Is that correct? And if so, why would this new order need to be blocked by Justices of the Supreme Court, please? Because of the blanket ban on people from 6 countries?

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GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 18:56

Because it is, in essence, still a Muslim ban (except for those countries he does business with). They have the capability of blocking individuals that they have issues with - but they prefer to tar everyone with the same brush. And make no mistake, once this ban is firmly in place, they will tighten it up again.

PlectrumElectrum · 06/03/2017 18:58

Bigly place mark. The best.

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 19:01

Josh Keating‏Verified account @joshuakeating 8m8 minutes ago
The new travel ban still has some dicey constitutional issues, writes @mjs_DC www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/03/06/trump_s_new_travel_ban_may_not_fix_all_the_legal_flaws_of_the_first_one.html

cozietoesie · 06/03/2017 19:02

Of what is he giving them hope, Cussing? Smile

Dumdedumdedum · 06/03/2017 19:02

Thanks, Ginger. That'll keep him well in with his supporters then. Though why they can't see that he's acting in self-interest with regard to Muslim countries where he has business interests, and not acting in the best interests of the country, as he ought to be, I don't understand.

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GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 19:02

Maggie Haberman‏Verified account @maggieNYT now5 seconds ago
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Spicer says he's "almost 100 percent certain that" Trump has not spoken with Comey since Saturday.

Talk about disorganised.

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 19:03

Sam Stein‏Verified account @samsteinhp

Senior Politics Editor, Huffington Post
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Spicer says we shouldn't trust Comey news on Trump's tweets because its anonymously sourced. Then won't say what source Trump tweet based on

cozietoesie · 06/03/2017 19:04

He should ask Comey.

Somebody will. Smile

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 19:05

The massive problem here is that Spicer is openly undermining another branch of the federal government. That is really bad.

cozietoesie · 06/03/2017 19:09

They'll have noticed, Ginger. Smile

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 19:09

Chad Sarno‏ @Wanderer19 5s6 seconds ago
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Khizr Khan forced to cancel Toronto trip after being told his travel privileges are being ‘reviewed’ www.rawstory.com/2017/03/khizr-khan-forced-to-cancel-toronto-trip-after-being-told-his-travel-privileges-are-being-reviewed/#.WL2zwrbXynE.twitter

He's been a US citizen for 30 years.

MoonriseKingdom · 06/03/2017 19:09

Placemarking for all the best Obamadrama and Trump tantrums.

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 19:44

Mark Berman‏Verified account @markberman

National news reporter @washingtonpost
2m2 minutes ago
Trump's new travel ban still won't keep out anyone from countries responsible for deadly terror attacks in the U.S. wapo.st/2mu4SAr?tid=ss_tw … pic.twitter.com/TOY2foqN3p

Marcipex · 06/03/2017 19:44

Thank you everyone, I really value all the explanations and info.

Acrossthepond thank you for your clarification at the end of the last thread.

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 19:51

Doug Mills‏Verified account @dougmillsnyt 54m54 minutes ago
White House reporters wait for Press Secretary Sean Spicer to do his daily briefing "off camera" in the White House briefing room. pic.twitter.com/3J2itPeZhg

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 19:54

And of course, to accompany his new Muslim ban EO, Trump sent out more requests for contributions......

Gabriel Debenedetti‏Verified account @gdebenedetti 11m11 minutes ago
Trump campaign fundraising email off the new EO, signed by @realDonaldTrump > pic.twitter.com/e6l1i78vSR

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 19:59

And oh yes, the new interest... Carson, the newly approved HUD person, calling slaves brought over in slave ships "immigrants" that came here full of dreams..... Speechless. I'm just speechless.

Bradd Jaffy‏Verified account @BraddJaffy 9m9 minutes ago
Ben Carson at HUD: “There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less.” pic.twitter.com/VfH9YCbleM

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 20:01

Scott Dworkin‏Verified account @funder 1m1 minute ago
Trump hotel project seems to have involved a $ laundering front for Iran's Revolutionary Guard #trumprussia #resist www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/6/14827604/trump-tower-baku

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 20:01

Info is that Ivanka was very fully involved in that hotel, too, by the way.

originalbiglymavis · 06/03/2017 20:02

What's a HUD person? I'm gobsnacked at his comment though. Kidnapping, brutality, murder, raps, enslavement, loss of liberty, sold like goods, and torture aside... The slaved were avtually really happy to get into America?

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 20:04

The Independent‏Verified account @Independent 3m3 minutes ago
EU citizens living in the UK will have to fill in 85-page form to try to secure the right to stay ind.pn/2lwxABc

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 20:05

Mavis Housing and Urban Development. And to call slaves "immigrants" is so wrong. It's not like they willingly came over.

MsHooliesCardigan · 06/03/2017 20:07

I got this badge at the demo on Saturday. I must have had a hundred people come up to me today and ask me where I got it from - colleagues, patients, retail staff, ticket inspectors, bus drivers and passengers and random people in the street. A pharmacist at Superdrug offered me £20 for my badge. The man that I sat next to on the bus on the way home spent the whole time shaking his head and muttering 'Donald Trump, very bad man, very racist man'.
I'm going to the anti-racist march on 18th March and happy to get badges for anyone who wants one. I can also get posters (see picture) This is a bigly movement!

Lweji · 06/03/2017 20:12

Ben Carson at HUD: “There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less.”

Did you know that he has his own exhibit at the museum of African American History?
I hope they remove it asap.

But then he supports Trump, so what would you expect?
He is a bona fide Uncle Tom to Trump.

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