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Tap Dancing around the Truth with Trump - 44 days in for POTUS 45.

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Dumdedumdedum · 06/03/2017 15:21

The Trump thread, continued from here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2867981-I-never-met-someone-from-NM-to-discuss-MN-Honest-Trump-thread-cont?watched=1&msgid=67412870#67412870

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Lweji · 07/03/2017 19:21

Why the CIA Wikileaks now and disclosed by who?

cozietoesie · 07/03/2017 19:23

Quite, Lweji. Smile

cozietoesie · 07/03/2017 19:23

Spicer is mangling the whole thing.

amispartacus · 07/03/2017 19:25

Lying bastard. Trump lied and won't correct his tweet.

GingerIvy · 07/03/2017 19:31

Bradd Jaffy‏Verified account @BraddJaffy 42s42 seconds ago
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Bradd Jaffy Retweeted Donald J. Trump
President Trump tweeted inaccurate info to his 26 million followers; Spicer says he will not be issuing a correction

cozietoesie · 07/03/2017 19:35

Who is going to be nominated to tell him he was wrong and he needs to change it? Grin

GingerIvy · 07/03/2017 19:36

Okay. This is off subject, but it's a positive thing in view of all the craziness. How amazing is this save??????

The Spectator Index‏ @spectatorindex 5m5 minutes ago
MEDIA: Man's reflexes save two children in Jambi City, Indonesia pic.twitter.com/6qjN1L7QuC

originalbiglymavis · 07/03/2017 19:36

I have visions of his wife crushing up prozac to put into his bedtime Horlix.

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 07/03/2017 19:39

Barbara Streisand on Twitter:

Donald Trump is making me gain weight. I start the day with liquids, but after the morning news, I eat pancakes smothered in maple syrup!

Didn't Trump massively diss Streisand on those interview tapes for his autobiography? Surely this is more ammo for the Orange Shitgibbon?

originalbiglymavis · 07/03/2017 19:41

I was wondering if the orange idiot would start tweeting that Streisand Iis overrated and can't sing for toffee, so there, nya!

GingerIvy · 07/03/2017 19:45

Christopher Steele back at work in the UK.

amispartacus · 07/03/2017 19:53

Why not give Congress the information he has rather than ask them to investigate it Grin

GingerIvy · 07/03/2017 19:55

Can you imagine the WH procedure manuals? "If you need Congress to investigate, tweet the info publicly and wait for a response."

Grin
GingerIvy · 07/03/2017 19:56

Bill Press‏ @bpshow 8h8 hours ago
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1st thing to understand, this is NOT a #healthcare plan, this is a tax cut for rich people. @benwikler #watchingbp

GingerIvy · 07/03/2017 20:01

Caroline O.‏ @RVAwonk 49m49 minutes ago
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HEADS UP -> HHS Sec. Tom Price just left the door open to using "conscience clauses" to allow insurers to deny contraceptive coverage. 1/

At the WH daily briefing, he mentioned the issue of making sure health policies don't "violate consciences." 2/

Price was asked specifically if he was referring only to abortion, or if he also meant contraception. 3/

He avoided answering directly, but he DID NOT say that contraceptive coverage would be protected. 4/

He's not just talking abt ACA's contraceptive mandate. He's talking abt letting insurers deny ALL coverage of BC. 5/

Price has voted in the past to allow insurers to use "conscience clauses" to deny coverage of contraception. 6/

www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/12/trumps-new-hhs-secretary-tried-curb-contraceptive-access

Tom Price's support for conscience clauses would also allow doctors/providers to deny repro health care based on their religious beliefs. 7/

In early Feb, a leaked EO draft suggested Trump might expand conscience clauses to allow denial of birth control. 8/ twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/827191757762916352

In Feb, @thehill reported that Tom Price was working behind the scenes to eliminate contraceptive coverage. 9/ twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/834371784820551680

Let's talk about some of the implications if Tom Price & GOP move forward with this... 10/

Pre-ACA, reproductive-age women spent abt 68% more on out-of-pocket costs than men, mostly b/c of birth control. 11/ www.guttmacher.org/sites/default/files/article_files/gr010405.pdf

Birth control isn't cheap. Pre-ACA, BC comprised abt 1/3 of out-of-pocket spending 4 women of childbearing age. 12/
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14768985

cozietoesie · 07/03/2017 20:13

They'll all put in a clause automatically, won't they? 'Just in case.'

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 07/03/2017 20:17

Oh for fucks sake! Women need access to contraception - it often isn't even about minimising risk of pregnancy. Many women need access to hormonal contraceptives or the coil etc to manage other health conditions, like acne (Dianette OCP) or heavy menstrual bleeding (Mirena). Interfering bastard men. Time to read the Handmaids Tale again, methinks. This makes me so angry for women in the US (and elsewhere).

CaveMum · 07/03/2017 20:21

This article from the Racing Post did make me chuckle!

beta.racingpost.com/news/international/exasperated-trainer-goes-nuclear-and-gelds-president-trump/277316

GingerIvy · 07/03/2017 20:23

Caroline O.‏
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Pre-ACA, the price of birth control forced some women to choose less effective methods or to use it unreliably. 13/ www.americanprogress.org/issues/women/news/2012/02/15/11054/the-high-costs-of-birth-control/

Thanks to the ACA, women are saving abt $1.4 billion/yr on out-of-pocket costs for birth control. 14/ content.healthaffairs.org/content/34/7/1204.abstract

Thanks to the ACA's contraceptive coverage, women are able to afford more effective, long-acting contraceptives (LARCs) like IUDs. 15/

As a result, unintended pregnancy & abortion rates are at historic lows. Undoing BC coverage will reverse this. 16/

On the other hand, expanding ACA's contraceptive coverage could dramatically reduce the abortion rate. 17/

cozietoesie · 07/03/2017 20:24

I grinned at that story.

First grin all day. Smile

GingerIvy · 07/03/2017 20:25

Caroline O.‏ @RVAwonk 4s5 seconds ago
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Caroline O. Retweeted Caroline O.
70% of Americans support ACA's contraceptive coverage. Tom Price's "conscience clause" would repeal it - & more. 18/

BiglyBadgers · 07/03/2017 20:26

The CIA hacking leaks are not so much a dead cat as a grenade lobbed into the room. If you ignore it you could end up screwed, but if you concentrate on that and let the other stuff go you are also screwed. If this planned (and timing is mighty suspect) it is a smart move. Added bonus of reminding us all the CIA aren't exactly knights in shining armour just when they are going after Trump.

I almost think it is coincidence the leak has come now just because it seems far too smart for Trump's guys. Hmm

cozietoesie · 07/03/2017 20:26

Sorry - the story about the racehorse. Precious little to grin about at Ginger's posts.

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