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Tap Dancing around the Truth with Trump - 44 days in for POTUS 45.

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Dumdedumdedum · 06/03/2017 15:21

The Trump thread, continued from here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2867981-I-never-met-someone-from-NM-to-discuss-MN-Honest-Trump-thread-cont?watched=1&msgid=67412870#67412870

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amispartacus · 07/03/2017 17:21

Also

"And everyone will shrug: That’s just Trump! Last week, he tweeted an obviously false and easily disproved claim about the Democrats blocking his Cabinet picks — picks for whom he never even sent the necessary paperwork to Capitol Hill. Everyone shrugged; the tweet is still sitting there. That’s just how it works now, apparently. Trump watches TV, tweets something false and everyone just sort of dismisses it as Trump being Trump. Maybe someone will write an amazed, snarky news story about it, but that’s as far as it goes."

Lweji · 07/03/2017 17:34

What did Trump expect Obama to do about Crimea and the Ukraine?

Nothing. At the time, exactly nothing. Because Crimea was in favour of becoming part of Russia and Russia wasn't even in the Ukraine, according to him.

His claim then was that Obama war courting war (in Syria as well) with Russia.

Constantly moving goalposts.

AcrossthePond55 · 07/03/2017 17:44

Trump has no idea what either he or Obama would or should have done about the Crimea/Ukraine. That's not important to him. All he knows is that Obama didn't 'do anything' (he did, he imposed sanctions) so it's something to he can 'throw out there' as a criticism about Obama's Administration. He sees Obama's high ratings as president, he sees his low ones. So instead of trying to figure out how to raise his own, he seeks to discredit Obama's popularity as president.

He really, really thought that he would be 'the most popular, ever' because he's been a bully surrounded by 'yes people' whose livelihood depended upon him for his entire life. Bannon and his ilk continued it to get him into office to push their own white, rich agenda. Trump simply can't handle the fact that the majority of We the People, the MSM, and a growing number of members of Congress can and are telling him to Fuck Off, BIGLY.

What's wrong with us? Why aren't we adoring the new Messiah? Can't we see how bigly great his plans are? How making the rich richer and in effect putting the poor into 'uninsured death camps' (because many will die unnecessarily due to lack of insurance) will make things better for the middle class?

He's a sick, sick egotistical puppy.

cozietoesie · 07/03/2017 17:46

I wonder whether Brenda is having to field 2am phone calls from him yet?

Destinysdaughter · 07/03/2017 17:47

An artist has made a portrait of Fartface, made from all of the nasty things he's said...

www.indy100.com/article/donald-trump-conor-collins-portrait-quotes-art-viral-isis-mexicans-artist-7615581

CaveMum · 07/03/2017 17:54

Not sure if it's already been linked to, but here's yesterday's Press gaggle transcript: www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/03/06/press-gaggle-press-secretary-sean-spicer

It's a long one for a gaggle.

GingerIvy · 07/03/2017 17:56

Scott Dworkin‏Verified account @funder 3m3 minutes ago
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#BREAKING: Trump's Russian employee Felix Sater said he spoke to Trump staff during & after campaign

GingerIvy · 07/03/2017 17:58

Hadn't seen that yet Cave thanks.

GingerIvy · 07/03/2017 17:59

Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden 1h1 hour ago
PSA: This incorrectly implies CIA hacked these apps / encryption. But the docs show iOS/Android are what got hacked - a much bigger problem. twitter.com/wikileaks/status/839120909625606152

cozietoesie · 07/03/2017 18:11

Thanks, Cave. Fascinating. He really can't take the heat, can he?

BiglyBadgers · 07/03/2017 18:20

Wikileaks is calling it the "largest ever publication of confidential documents" on the CIA: usat.ly/2n1v3Mu (Getty) #Vault7

I know this was a page ago now and a bit of a tangent but this is serious shit. It asserts the CIA have basically set up their own NSA and been developing huge hacking ability with no real oversight. As Snowdon says above hacking iOS/android is pretty scary. If this is accurate it should cause outrage, but it won't because we are all to busy trying to firefight the Trump crap.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/03/2017 18:21

Matt Haig‏ @matthaig1
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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 07/03/2017 18:27

bigly I don't know what's worse: that we won't focus on this because we're looking at trump or that we won't focus on trump because we're looking at this.

BiglyBadgers · 07/03/2017 18:28

Here is some more from Snowdon on the CIA hacking stuff. The bit about them paying for security holes to be left open should make us all furious. The CIA is deliberately leaving your back door unlocked without telling you about it. If they'd an get in other people can get in Angry

Tap Dancing around the Truth with Trump - 44 days in for POTUS 45.
BiglyBadgers · 07/03/2017 18:29

I know pain there is just so much going on I don't know where to focus sometimes.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 07/03/2017 18:29

bloody hell.

I think this is going to allow Trump to get away with his Russia links. Hes going to be able to keep yelling 'fire fire' while pointing at them and any trust the US may possibly have had in the cia will go down the drain.

Its purposefully timed.

BiglyBadgers · 07/03/2017 18:31

I guess the link with trump for this is that if Trump goes full authoritarian then this could be used to crack down on people who speak against him. Your TV could record you talking about attending a protest and suddenly you find yourself blacklisted or your door being broken down at 2am.

cozietoesie · 07/03/2017 18:36

As Oh said, I reckon it's purposefully timed.

GingerIvy · 07/03/2017 18:57

Very interesting watch. And this deal heavily involved Trump and all 3 of his older children.

#resist & #persist‏ @hmbryan 11m11 minutes ago
From @maddow: Trump risks prosecution for questionable deal - based on @NewYorker writer Adam Davidson's 3/6 article a.msn.com/09/en-us/AAnXttj?ocid=st

GingerIvy · 07/03/2017 18:59

POLITICO‏Verified account @politico now5 seconds ago
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CIA providing raw intelligence to senators for Trump-Russia probe politi.co/2lAZMDh

Destinysdaughter · 07/03/2017 19:00

Barbara Streisand on Twitter:

Donald Trump is making me gain weight. I start the day with liquids, but after the morning news, I eat pancakes smothered in maple syrup!

cozietoesie · 07/03/2017 19:02

I know how she feels! Grin

GingerIvy · 07/03/2017 19:09

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