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Lweji · 26/02/2017 13:23

A new thread. From
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2862265-Were-only-showing-Ami-the-good-news-now-to-keep-her-sweet-Its-another-Trump-thread?watched=1&msgid=67235918#67235918

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Natsku · 26/02/2017 19:48

Tremendous placemark

CaveMum · 26/02/2017 19:56

You're right cozie, I just checked his Wikipedia page and he finished second to Mitt Romney in 2012. He also ran for the 2016 nomination but pulled out in Feb 2016.

He's also a pusher of teaching "intelligent design" in schools Hmm

OhYouBadBadKitten · 26/02/2017 19:56

placemarking

cozietoesie · 26/02/2017 20:05

Possibly fairly even handed then, Cave? ( A chip on each shoulder. Grin)

nicenewdusters · 26/02/2017 20:09

"And the Oscar for the world's most over promoted, under achieving lunatic goes to ......."

It's taken me 2 hours to catch up, and it'll take me 2 cups of tea to calm down and absorb everything. These threads are like sanity in a mad world, thank you.

I remembered this afternoon an old work situation. Office of about 30, well known bully at the helm. Dreadful woman, no empathy, racist, ageist, homophobic. Organisation did nothing about her for years. They were intimidated, cowardly, too many vested interests.

She was finally toppled when a new, young member of staff blew the whistle and went to the Trade Union. She only felt able as she had absolutely nothing to lose. But who with any clout around Trump will have nothing to lose? How do you decide that you can stop the car crash?

nicenewdusters · 26/02/2017 20:11

Waves to Natsku . Hope your head's ok!

cozietoesie · 26/02/2017 20:16

It's down to timing, nice.

amispartacus · 26/02/2017 20:20

www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/02/26/u-s-detains-and-nearly-deports-french-jewish-historian/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.16b021d1d800

PARIS — Henry Rousso is one of France’s most preeminent scholars and public intellectuals. Last week, as the historian attempted to enter the United States to attend an academic symposium, he was detained for more than 10 hours — for no clear reason.

On Wednesday, Rousso arrived at Houston’s George Bush Intercontinental Airport after an 11-hour flight from Paris, en route to Texas A&M University in College Station. There, he was to speak Friday afternoon at the Hagler Institute for Advanced Study.

But things did not go according to plan: Rousso — an Egyptian-born French citizen — was “mistakenly detained” by U.S. immigration authorities, according to Richard Golsan, director of the Glasscock Center for Humanities Research at Texas A&M.

Egypt — from which Rousso and his family, as Jews, were exiled in 1956, after a slew of anti-Semitic measures imposed by the administration of President Gamal Abdel Nasser, according to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz — was not among the seven nations in the travel ban, which had been suspended by the time he arrived in the United States.

[Who is affected by the travel ban?]

Furthermore, France is a beneficiary of the U.S. visa waiver program, which permits French citizens to enter the United States without a visa. All that is required is an online ESTA application before departure.

For Marouf, Rousso’s ordeal was indicative of a strict new U.S. border control regime: “It seems like there’s much more rigidity and rigor in enforcing these immigration requirements and technicalities of every visa,” she told the Eagle.

French-Egyptian historian - exiled from Egypt because of anti-semitism.
You couldn't make it up.

cozietoesie · 26/02/2017 20:21

Hmmm.

Clnz4fun · 26/02/2017 20:22

BiglBigly placemark as lost the last thread. Need to catch up.

PausingFlatly · 26/02/2017 20:27

Biggest ever placemark. Much bigger than Clnz4fun's placemark. I don't know the figures; someone just told me that.

DumbledoresApprentice · 26/02/2017 20:27

Is that the same Rousso who wrote the Vichy Syndrome? If so that only adds to the irony.

SenecaFalls · 26/02/2017 20:29

He won't be watching the Oscars tonight; it's the annual Governors' Ball at the WH. This event includes Governors and spouses from all the states so there will be some Democrats there. It will be interesting in terms of his remarks (will he dis the Dems?) and the style of the event (will there be a lot of gold?).

amispartacus · 26/02/2017 20:31

Is that the same Rousso who wrote the Vichy Syndrome? If so that only adds to the irony

Indeed. I wonder if Trump knows about Vichy France?

DumbledoresApprentice · 26/02/2017 20:34

Ami- I think that's unlikely.

CussingQuim · 26/02/2017 20:41

Hope this link works, it's someone keeping a fairly short factual log of all the bullshit. If anyone else has a better one out there would like to see it! One page screenshotted as example.

Amy Siskind medium.com - latest on her Twitter blog Amy_Siskind.

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woman12345 · 26/02/2017 20:52

Lweji agree, Merkel was compassionate and has been roundly punished for it.

BiglyBadgers · 26/02/2017 20:53

On the subject of California going independent, it was talked about earlier, I have noticed a few of the anti-trump republicans I am following claiming it is being heavily pushed by Russian trolls in order to split the democratic vote and take attention off Trump. This is being retweeted a lot.

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cozietoesie · 26/02/2017 20:56

They would say that, wouldn't they? Wink

But then, who can tell? A split America would be handy as a fall-back.

GingerIvy · 26/02/2017 20:56

Donald J. TrumpVerified account‏*@realDonaldTrump* 42m42 minutes ago
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Big dinner with Governors tonight at White House. Much to be discussed, including healthcare.

GingerIvy · 26/02/2017 20:57

Scott DworkinVerified account‏*@funder* Feb 2
An activist is mysteriously ill in Russia & US needs to speak out
#dworkinreport #trumprussia #resist #theresistance www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/a-mysterious-and-terrible-turn-of-events-in-russia/2017/02/02/b43fb9ca-e965-11e6-bf6f-301b6b443624_story.html

woman12345 · 26/02/2017 20:57

www.gofundme.com/bringirenehome?rcid=fc874327a835436ab180b9d5b8ff4776

MsHoolies above is go fund me link to help Irene Clennell. The story got worse, she had to go to a routine immigration meeting and was detained. Has been deported. Un fucking believable. An honest carer. Seems to be who the gov is going after.

GingerIvy · 26/02/2017 20:58

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It doesn't mean we wait for atrocities to accumulate beyond a reasonable doubt against people because of their religion, race, ethnicity, gender, age, sexual orientation or gender identity. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" would wait for too many lives to be lost. The correct standard is whether we have seen enough hate crimes to constitute a preponderance of evidence of a national epidemic of prejudice. The answer is clear: We have seen enough. Never again means not waiting to see more. Never again is now.
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GingerIvy · 26/02/2017 20:59

Stuart McDonald MPVerified account‏*@Stuart*_McDonald 10m10 minutes ago
UK Home Office at its nastiest: "Gran - In the UK For 30 Years - Deported With Just £12 In Pocket" www.buzzfeed.com/emilydugan/a-grandmother-has-been-deported-with-just-ps12-in-her-pocket?utm_term=.xcqy6PPDB … via @emilydugan

nicenewdusters · 26/02/2017 21:01

"Big dinner" For a man who uses the word big so much he really does have a tiny vocabulary. I still can't help feeling he's so impressed by himself for playing with the grown ups. Big crowds, big dinner, FFS.