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"We thought we'd pop in!"

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ArsenalsPlayingAtHome · 21/02/2017 06:45

Last night my parents "popped in". I'd been in from work for about 20 minutes, during which time I'd said a brief "hello" to DH & children, and immediately started ploughing through the laundry. Had plans to change the sheets on our bed, and give the bathroom a quick clean before starting to cook the tea.

I'm exhausted by the time the DCs are going to bed, and wanted to get as much as done as possible while they were happily spending time on their tablets, so that after tea I could spend a bit of time with them without being knackered and irritable.

I work FT, have very little time to do anything between getting in from work and sorting the kids out at bedtime. Our children have various hobbies, one of which means that either myself of DH are out with at least 1 DC for at least an hour and a half every evening.

Now, I'm not moaning about how busy we are, but AIBU to be pissed off that, knowing how busy we are, my parents decide to "pop in" with not so much as a phone call to see if it's convenient, or if another day might be more/slightly less inconvenient?

My parents aren't fun people to be around, They sit there with miserable faces saying either nothing, or repeating what they've just asked.

PS - This isn't a thread about how DH needs to do more - he does his fair share.

AIBU to be pissed off, and would it BU to ask them not to pop in without ringing?

Getting ready for work now, but will read any responses as soon as I can this evening.
Thanks.

OP posts:
ExplodedCloud · 22/02/2017 11:13

I suspect a lot of the popper inner people have the kind of visitors who are prepared to stick the kettle on and muck in or independently engage with the hubbub of family life. Not all visitors are equal! Some expect 'hosting' and to be the centre of everyone's attention. That's bearable if you have time to do that. Bloody annoying if you don't and aren't given the option.
Extra annoying if they're the type to hold a grudge.

littlefrog3 · 22/02/2017 11:26

Complain about anyone else - sister, husband, child, neighbor - and you never get this answer. Awwww let them do what they like because when they're dead you'll be sorry. ?? Jesus

I agree that the guilt trip is out of order. However, if it's an occasional thing, then it's a bit OTT for you to gripe about it OP. Then again, how long did the parents stay? And how often do they do it? If it's only twice a month or so, that sounds OK. I also do get though that you are a busy full time working mom.

Also though, as a few people have said here, you sound like you are easily irritated by your parents and don't like them much anyway! Saying they are not fun to be around etc... If I thought either of our daughters were saying this about me, I would be utterly devastated.

I agree with the posters who have said that you probably need to ask them if they could let you know when they're coming next time, as you are quite busy, and have a routine.

I have to admit, I have always HATED people visiting unannounced, except my daughters, and my parents. DH's brother used to come every frikkin' weekend some years ago, and stay 5-6 HOURS. It would be anytime after midday on a Sunday. Got to the point where some weekends, we would hide the car 2 cul de sacs back, and all hide upstairs playing board games until they fucked off. Grin

Occasionally, they would pop back an hour later when we 'weren't in,' so we had to make sure we hid for a couple of hours. Annoying as hell. It went on for several years, but was resolved when they split and he moved 50 miles away!

AddictedtoSnickers · 22/02/2017 12:07

My Mum kept accidentally phoning for a chat at bad times, such as 3pm (school run) and 6pm (bath time). I felt bad always fobbing her off but she struggled to remember our routine so I just gave her a simple list of 'Good times to call'. It really worked!! Maybe you could try the same?

Bluebellevergreen · 22/02/2017 12:14

supermoon come again? Hmm
A) not everyone can afford a cleaner
B) not everyone wants a cleaner
C) maybe you dont have to go as far a hiring help just because people can't have the manners and thought to call and arranging a suitable time
D) not everyone enjoys visits at all times

Honestly

TheFullMrexit · 22/02/2017 12:18

Op not read thread but my initial reaction was - why cant you just be kind....they may not be around soon HOWEVER when you said they are miserable people to be around..sitting there not saying anything I changed my mind.
I do feel if people want other people to enjoy seeing them they need to make some effort.

Bluebellevergreen · 22/02/2017 12:21

Saying they are not fun to be around etc... If I thought either of our daughters were saying this about me, I would be utterly devastated.

So? Not all parents are to be liked. Maybe my mum thinks as above, then maybe she needs to time travel 20 years and make amends for us.

TheFullMrexit · 22/02/2017 12:27

Blue I think anyone with some sort of self awareness etc should be able to gage when their their own children enjoy seeing them, are friendly with them etc.

Its a choice if you want your dc to see you out of duty only because they cant stand being round you or actively are happy to hang out with you and spend more time with you.
I adored my DM and would have been perfectly happy to have her pop in, hang round etc, help me with the dc. She was easy going, kind, heart in right place and also more importantly if she annoyed me or we clashed it was OK for us to say it to each other and move on. She was also totally non judgemental and on top - a really good laugh, light hearted and fun.

Dh dm on the other hand is brittle, easily offended, doesn't chat, has no sense of humour, has constantly let us know our house isn't up to her standards, that she is better than us - me - she is far cleaner - and therefore morally superior she has never listened to us asking nicely over things re the dc, she wont eat food at our house bar a token bite - taken with great pain by her.

Who would actively seek her out to spend time with her? Confused

Bluebellevergreen · 22/02/2017 12:33

thefull it should be like that but I am pretty sure my mum doesnt see reality as it is.

Plus I never show that I don't like her or anything and we are always nice to her (despite her horrible constant comments) because of the guilt and her getting older...

I do invite her for holidays and stuff and then spend weeks in therapy. But "she is your mum so you have to see her" seems to be the rule for everyone.

Sprinklestar · 22/02/2017 12:38

Agree with the OP, people can be rude, family or not.
Slightly different scenario but I've been a SAHM for the past couple of years and am now doing a full time postgrad course. The number of times people turn up and seem to think, 'oh, you're just studying' or make out that I'm being obtuse because I can't meet for lunch etc is astonishing. It's a full time course. I paid a fortune to do it. I'm paying a fortune for childcare so I can do it. And, hard though it may be to believe, I really enjoy it! So sorry if that messes with your plans for yet another coffee and cake! Interestingly, friends who 'work' properly, as in are out of the house at the office, don't get this treatment. Grr!

Artandco · 22/02/2017 12:53

I don't really understand ' I have to do the washing this evening/ morning'. What, are you scrubbing each item by hand? Doing the washing involves dumping washing in machine, turning on. It takes 2 mins if that. Then you have 2hrs free whilst the machine does its stuff

Changing the bed? How long does that take? 5mins?

Surely you just invite people in, throw washing in machine whilst kettle is on. Then say i just need to make the bed quickly, make yourself comfy. Tada. Done

melj1213 · 22/02/2017 13:00

Jesus the amount of rubbish I've read on this thread!

OP YANBU - weekday evenings are busy at the best of times, they're not times that anyone should be "popping in" unless they are willing to fit into your schedule, especially if they are the kind of people who need "hosting" which involves stopping whatever you're doing to give them your full attention. If they can't (or won't) fit into your schedule then they either need to forego a weekday visit or take the risk that they won't get the level of hosting that they expect.

"Appreciate them now, you'll miss them when they're dead!"

I love my parents dearly, and love that they want to spend time with my DD, but they are also the kind of people who call before they show up, and on the rare occasion they haven't they are happy to fit in to whatever plan I have for the evening - whether that means they muck in with the chores or just sit with DD while I get on ... because they accept that I don't have to drop everything just because they have turned up.

My ex's parents on the other hand are like the OP's parents, if they "popped in" then they expected to be hosted - there would be no pitching in with chores, and we basically had to drop everything to sit and have awkward chitchat over a cup of tea while I was mentally trying to work out when I could squeeze all the chores/stuff I had planned for that evening into the rest of the week's schedule without burning out, and they sat there judging the fact that the place wasn't a show home without realising that their insistence on being hosted was contributing to that

"Hire a cleaner and spend time with your kids!"

Since when was it decreed that I had to hire someone because all of my non-work time should be spent with the children? I love doing things with my DD but that doesn't mean I'm going to spend my hard earned cash to hire someone to do the cleaning I have more than enough time to do, provided my daughter can entertain herself for an hour in the evening and people don't just drop in and throw off my evening plans

"Why are you doing washing/bed changes during the week anyway?!"

I wasn't aware there was a decree that you couldn't do housework when it works best for you and was restricted to weekend days only? I work at weekends, and get random days off during the week so I do housework as it needs doing rather than on a specific day ... as long as stuff gets done routinely, what does it matter what day it is done on, provided it fits within your own schedule?

"Why are you cleaning the bathroom after work anyway?"

When should I clean the bathroom then? If it's dirty, it gets cleaned ... should I leave the toothpaste marks in the sink and water marks on the shower door until Saturday just because that's my next day off and do it then, or should I take ten minutes on Tuesday to squirt some bleach down the loo, wipe round the sink and squeege the shower door whilst I wait for the washing to finish and dinner is in the oven?

"Working full time isn't an excuse to be a bitch"

No but it is an excuse to not put your evening plans on hold because someone decided to drop by ... working full time means that I have to make full use of the time when I'm not at work to keep everything ticking over. If my parents were to drop in and expect to be hosted, I'd spend the whole "visit" thinking about how to rearrange my schedule to fit everything in, or my chance of a relax after DD is in bed is gone as I have to spend the rest of the evening catching up.

"I'd have considered it a welcome opportunity to get the kids to put their Ipads down and have some human interaction"

They're getting human interaction, just not at the precise moment of the visit because the OP was busy and they were having some down time, since when was that a bad thing?

My DD gets human interaction all day, every day ... if her using a tablet/watching tv/playing on a games console for an hour after school on a weekday evening meant I could get her tea made, a round of washing done, and a few other bits and bobs done round the house so that we could spend the entire evening after tea together, then why would I stop her?

There is a huge difference between "DCs spend all evening with technology and DCs spend time on tech while I get housework done so we can all interact together later in the evening"

"It's such a horrible feeling for your child to view your visit to them as a complete inconvenience."

I love my parents but that doesn't mean things they do are never inconvenient for me. Just like if they were to "drop in" at 8;30am when I'm trying to get out to work and get my DD out to school with everything she needs that day, that would be just as inconvenient. It doesn't mean I never want to see them, I just don't want to see them at that speciic moment.

It's a weekday evening, even without housework that I may or may not be doing, that is a busy time - DD has various extra curriculars, we might have had a play date or I might have arranged for my friends to come over, then theres the usual dinner/homework/relaxing time/bath/bedtime etcetc to fit in to a very short time ... which is why my parents know not to just "drop by" on a weekday evening. If there is an arranged visit, or even that they call first and ask if I'd be free for them to come over for half an hour, fine, I can factor that in to my schedule and arrange accordingly.

MuseumOfCurry · 22/02/2017 13:34

Jesus the amount of rubbish I've read on this thread!

Totally agree. It's been a constant stream of berating working women for not prioritising the needs of others over their own. Fuck off.

Greyponcho · 22/02/2017 13:40

Arrange for them to pop round at a time that's convenient and get them to bring food for everyone with them - win win!

Bluebellevergreen · 22/02/2017 13:45

Yes to everything melj has said!!!

artandco here is a medal Star If only all human beings were as efficient as you are! Plus MAYBE some people dont want company all the bloody time!

dustarr73 · 22/02/2017 13:52

I don't really understand ' I have to do the washing this evening/ morning'. What, are you scrubbing each item by hand? Doing the washing involves dumping washing in machine, turning on. It takes 2 mins if that. Then you have 2hrs free whilst the machine does its stuff

You dont have 2 hours free though if parents drop in unannounced.

Changing the bed? How long does that take? 5mins?

I think people forget what its like to have small children.A 5 minute job,turns in 20 because the kids decided to help or murder each other.

It doesnt matter what way you look at it,the parents are in the wrong.They should ring before dropping around.

BeyondThePage · 22/02/2017 14:02

there seem to be those who want their ducks in a row, see their little family unit as the most important thing, and those who are willing to just kick back and go with the flow.

I go with the flow- it suits me, we never had set bedtimes, people can drop in and out as and when - the kids actually love that as it means their friends are welcome to drop by - we can always find space/food/a bed whatever. Life is easy.

My sister likes her ducks in a row, if someone turns up at teatime it would not even occur to her to try and fit them in, she'd get stressed about how to get them to leave, she is continually stressed by life.

CrazyCavalierLady · 22/02/2017 14:03

MuseumOfCurry Wed 22-Feb-17 13:34:22
Jesus the amount of rubbish I've read on this thread!

Totally agree. It's been a constant stream of berating working women for not prioritising the needs of others over their own. Fuck off.

This ^^

supermoon100 · 22/02/2017 14:20

I don't understand why people complain about doing house work which doesn't need to be done, cleaning toothpaste off the sink after work, eh?. And if cleaning the bathroom only takes 10 mins, what are you complaining about. Very confused! I would love it it if my rellies lived nearby.

melj1213 · 22/02/2017 15:03

Supermoon the reason my bathroom cleaning takes 10 minutes is because I take 5/10 minutes every day to do basic surface cleaning, and then every few weeks it will get a deep scrub ... if I didn't do the 5 minutes every day then by the time I did do it once a week it would take significantly longer, and if my parents kept dropping in that would mean that 5 minute bathroom clean, the 5 minute lounge tidy, the 5 minute hoover downstairs, 10 minute sweep & mop of the kitchen & bathroom etcetc gets missed and has to be caught up on later - which means I lose time to relax, and if visits from my parents were times when I'm expected to host rather than relax with them, then I wouldn't even be just "reshuffling" the relaxing time, I'm losing out on it altogether, and that's not something I am keen to do on a weekday when life is stressful enough as it is.

Since you were the one advocated getting a cleaner to save myself that and spend time with my family ... why would I want to pay someone to do something that takes such a small amount of time, providing that family can cope with the fact they have to entertain themselves for that short time without my full attention?

supermoon100 · 22/02/2017 15:24

I agree you do seem a bit stressed. Not sure what advice I can offer. All I can say is that I don't clean when I get home from work (I work full time) but I do put the kids to bed and cook dinner then I chill

Beelzebop · 22/02/2017 15:49

I would have felt like that once about my Mum, but then she died suddenly. I'd love to here her whizzing through the front door again! X

happilyeverafta · 22/02/2017 16:04

My in laws do this.

Just pop in whenever it suits them. It they don't think about the fact that the newborn GC they want to see is asleep or in bed then moan when they can't wake her up and cuddle her.

We have said let us know when you're coming and we can make sure it's convenient/a good time abc you'll not be dissapointed then.

MIL's response was "I don't need a feckin appointment to see my granddaughter!"

Oh well. Shame I'm 'out' each time you just 'pop round' then!

LucklessMonster · 22/02/2017 16:05

The title of this thread made me shudder.

It's all in how you deliver the request but YANBU.

bumsexatthebingo · 22/02/2017 16:21

melj1213 kids don't need to be on Ipads so tea can be made and chores can be done you know. People did do chores before kids had Ipads. And there are better ways to have 'downtime' as screen use isn't relaxing hence advice not to let children use screens just before bed.
It is my preference that my children don't overuse Ipads etc so I would have been glad if my dc were chatting to their gp's for an hour rather than staring at screens. An opinion I'm entitled to. It's quite rude and arrogant for you to say that mine and other peoples opinions are 'rubbish' just because you disagree.
The main point I was making was that I wouldn't have felt obliged to stop what I was doing. The op's parents wouldn't have been sat on their own - they would have had their gc to entertain them which surely would have been sufficient while the op did a couple of quick jobs.

dustarr73 · 22/02/2017 16:31

Do we know the ages of ops kids,that might make a difference whether they can "entertain the gps" or not