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AIBU in thinking this is not racist?

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KungFuPandaWorksOut16 · 14/02/2017 14:02

At a baby group, and one of the mothers starts commenting on a father who is there, mentioning how she wouldn't say no etc. Then asked what we think
One friend turned round and said no he isn't my cup of tea.
Original lady asked why
She responded she normally prefers white men, not black men.
Original lady tells her she should be disgusted in herself and having a view like that is highly racist. She then asked me do I agree if she was racist in what she said.

I told her I wouldn't view this as racist, just personal preference.
Is this actually racist? Or is original lady just being a bit over the top.

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Sweets101 · 14/02/2017 22:06

Saying "not really my cup of tea" isn't writing of an entire race, not even as sexually partners.
Blondes ain't my thing, still shagged a few fit ones but generally they aren't 'my cup of tea'

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 14/02/2017 22:07

I am not in any way shape or form trying to talk people into fancying people - that's not my issue and never has been - I bow out as I think you were answering another PP and I don't have the energy

TaraCarter · 14/02/2017 22:09

But it is also because, guess what, men are not talked into fancying or even pretending to fancy women they do not fancy! I'd say that was a feminist issue.

On male-dominated sites, I never see men saying they should give a complete madster they met through OLD the previous night a second date to be "fair". And nor do I see other men telling them they should, either.

On MN, and other sites with lots of women, on the other hand...

NavyandWhite · 14/02/2017 22:14

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SpartacusWoman · 14/02/2017 22:17

But you're writing off the chance to find out about a black mans personality by saying they aren't your type. By that I guess someone wouldn't find out how lovely that person could be because the colour of their skin was unattractive.

Not wanting to fuck him doesn't mean she thinks he's not a nice or lovely person, she wasn't asked if she would say no to long term friendship or anything about his personality, she was basically asked if she'd fuck him.

You dont need to find someone sexually attractive to like them as a person, I know loads of people and their personalities, I wouldn't have sex with them all though.

Its her vagjna, she can dismiss who's penis goes into it for whatever reason she likes, her no should have been enough. Women shoudlnt have to justify why they don't want that specific penis in them imo,

The women who've said they don't find bald men sexually attractive are not saying they don't like bald men at all, they are saying no to having them in their vagina, not to having them in their lives at all. Same as the woman in the OP.

Sweets101 · 14/02/2017 22:20

You dont need to find someone sexually attractive to like them as a person, I know loads of people and their personalities, I wouldn't have sex with them all though.

This^^

5OBalesofHay · 14/02/2017 22:21

Sounds like a strange conversation. How rude to talk about the guy like he's a piece of meat Confused

NavyandWhite · 14/02/2017 22:22

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TaraCarter · 14/02/2017 22:26

It means, in that context, "nah, don't wanna shag 'im".

5OBalesofHay · 14/02/2017 22:26

Would you be happy to know that you were being discussed in that way at a baby group?

NavyandWhite · 14/02/2017 22:28

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Sweets101 · 14/02/2017 22:28

In that context they only touched on sexually attraction. Says so in the OP.

TaraCarter · 14/02/2017 22:30

I have a male friend with whom I get on brilliantly. He wouldn't shag me in a million years. Because I'm a woman.

The great big sexist, eh?

NavyandWhite · 14/02/2017 22:34

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OfaFrenchmind2 · 14/02/2017 22:35

Not racist in my opinion.
I prefer white and Polynesian men. I am not attracted to Asian or black men in general.
What would be racist would be to refuse to consider asian or black men as colleagues, family, or friends.
I have asian and black colleagues and friends (yeah, I know, the "i have a black friend), but to my souvenir I never wanted to shag them. The want was not there and should not have to be explained or investigated. I feel it is like sexuality: not a choice. It may be a natural instinctual inclination, a subtle social construct, whatever, but it should never be considered as a choice because then it could be considered through a corrective POV.
I notice also that most of the people considering it racist focus on the white woman and the black man, completly ignoring or dismissing the opinions of the other races and their own preferences. That is very disengenuous.

NinjaLeprechaun · 14/02/2017 22:36

"Yes because he was black."
If her type is pale redhead then a black man is never going to be her type. It doesn't mean that she'd never be attracted to a black man, only that it would be the exception not the norm.

NavyandWhite · 14/02/2017 22:41

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 14/02/2017 22:45

You are coming across as very self- righteous Navy

But the woman said he wasn't her cup of tea

What do you think that means? She didn't want to have sex with him but would have a platonic relationship with him?!

Er yes. They were talking about sex. There are tens of 1000's of people who are not my cup of tea for a shag and I have platonic relationships with some of them.

I don't find black or Chinese men attractive. I don't find any of the examples given in this thread attractive.

I don't find short men attractive. I have never dated anyone who was not at least 4 inches taller than me.

I don't find strong Glaswegian, Liverpudlian or Essex accents attractive either.

NavyandWhite · 14/02/2017 22:50

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MommieMommyMom · 14/02/2017 22:51

Get over yourself Navy.
The fact you think it's racist says way more about you than it does about anyone else.

Aeroflotgirl · 14/02/2017 22:54

Saying you don't fancy somebody based on their skin, is no different, to you saying to don't fancy them because they are short, bald, fat, ugly whatever. Would you say its racist then, if someone only liked black partners, and not white or any other!

Italiangreyhound · 14/02/2017 23:22

Shout I was not speaking specifically to you. I was speaking generally.

Thanks
Italiangreyhound · 14/02/2017 23:26

Off to bed with my white skinned, blue eyed, grey-hairded man, who is the only man I currently find sexually attractive. How exclusive of me!

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