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AIBU to think double barrel surnames all sound stupid and there's just no need for it?

476 replies

ExpectoPatronummmm · 05/02/2017 11:31

I realise I will offend all you double barrellers
But why?
Do you realise it's a mouthful and makes you look like you're trying to be some kind of lord or lady?
What's wrong with one surname?
When I marry my OH i'lol take his surname. I won't just add it to mine and cause an unnecessarly long name to have to say/write/spell.

I think they make you look like a pleb.

OP posts:
Feilin · 06/02/2017 07:46

I wanted to keep my name. Huge row. Only agreement was double barrel. My choice .

80sMum · 06/02/2017 07:54

What happens when two people who each have a double-barrelled surname marry and /or have children? Would they have quadruple-barelled surnames?!

Catsize · 06/02/2017 08:01

We have been in a civil partnership for ten years. It was very much unchartered territory, but we decided to double-barrel our names. Still only have 3 syllables. Sorry about that OP.

MixedGrill · 06/02/2017 08:06

"When we got married I took his name because despite being a crazed feminist I wanted any children to have the same surname as me (personal preference). "

For this poster and the many, many who say this: but what led you to the conclusion that the children would have his name? Especially a name you find a pain? Another PP gave the children her DH's name which she hated, but reverted to her name because she couldn't hack it.

A married woman not taking a man's name is still a counter-cultural act. There was a poster the other week who had never met a married woman who kept her own name. Many women (and their partners) who buck tradition will be doing it because they have judged the tradition to be patriarchal / non feminist.

This thread opened with a poster making silly insults against hyphenated names, quickly backed up by posters saying things like 'it looks like the father didn't want to marry you'.

There should be no judgey sneering at anyone who thinks about it and chooses a male partner's name for themselves / kids, but at least stop and listen to the alternatives, and see where people have answered the same questions time and time again.

Like the mythical horror of the quadrupled barrelled name.....

(I expect my independently minded Dc, of both sexes, will: keep their whole name, change their whole name, use one part of their name, maybe according to preference, how well it goes with a partner's, or maybe girls keep Mum's, boys keep Dad's.... who knows. It is up to them. My only concern is if men take it upon themselves to assume that their name is the only and obvious choice and women do not think about this).

Good grief: if women choosing to buck the trend on adopting a man's name causes such grief, imagine what it was like for the first women to go to medical school, to maintain a profession after marriage, to set up a suffragist movement....

MixedGrill · 06/02/2017 08:10

Jassey's 'catching a man' was surely a response to an earlier post which said that a hyphenated name for a child implied exactly that: that the man had not wanted to marry her. See? It started from an insult / sexist assumption against a woman passing in her own name.

JassyRadlett · 06/02/2017 08:15

(I expect my independently minded Dc, of both sexes, will: keep their whole name, change their whole name, use one part of their name, maybe according to preference, how well it goes with a partner's, or maybe girls keep Mum's, boys keep Dad's.... who knows. It is up to them. My only concern is if men take it upon themselves to assume that their name is the only and obvious choice and women do not think about this.

This! As I've said before, I'm not aiming to raise fools. And neither do I intend to judge their choices.

80sMum · 06/02/2017 08:18

Sorry MixedGrill my post was my (possibly misguided) idea of a joke! I should have added a Grin at the end!

fizzingmum · 06/02/2017 08:18

I went to a works Christmas party a few years back down south. I was the only northerner amongst the poshest group of people I have ever met. Lovely chaps! During conversation one said that X is so posh that he doesn't know anyone who isn't double barrelled. I had had a couple of wines and chimed up with "oh is that posh? Where I come from it just means single mother!" Cue tumbleweed Confused
Before anyone gets upset I was a single parent at the time with double barrelled children. For the reasons stated above, I didn't want to have a different name if we split, which we did.

BertrandRussell · 06/02/2017 08:21

"What I have pondered over, is what do these made-up double barrelled named people do when they get married?"
What I have pondered over is why people persist in asking this particularly dim question.........

MixedGrill · 06/02/2017 08:22

Sorry 80sMum Grin

MixedGrill · 06/02/2017 08:25

Bert: maybe it needs it's own thread?
"Options on forming a partnership for those with a hyphenated name"

I am sure everyone who ponders / wonders about this thinks they are being deeply original in having thought ahead and hit a problem....

BertrandRussell · 06/02/2017 08:26

The only thing I object to is the term "double barrelled". It's a fairly recent invention by (I think) Punch intended to satirise the aristocracy, and still has huntin',shootin' and fishin' associations. Much better to use "hyphenated"

MixedGrill · 06/02/2017 09:15

I prefer, and use hyphenated, too.
It's factual.
And is one word.
What is that term for a word that is what it is? I.e double barrelled is a double barrelled word / phrase?
Grin

Only1scoop · 06/02/2017 09:19

Bert I completely agree with you.

SuffolkingGrand · 06/02/2017 09:24

I'm double barrelled having taken my husband's name and kept mine. I've now got three capital letters, an apostrophe and a hyphen in my surname.

I like it as no one else has it anywhere, in the whole uni-fucking-verse.

I don't give a flying shit what you think about me as a result.

Fortunatepiggy · 06/02/2017 09:34

I have double barrelled my surname as I liked my maiden name and I'm an only child so no one else was carrying it in. Also my married name was a bit common so wanted a differentiator. Dh thinks its pretentious and has kept his name without double barrelling so for example he is smith and I am Middleton- smith ( those are not our names by the way just example!). I don't really care what people think I like it! Only thing that bothers me a bit is ds has just my dh name so we have diff surnames as didn't want to inflict my double barrelled ness on him! Confuses people at Christmas though with what to write on the cards!

Gaaaah · 06/02/2017 09:55

My maiden name was hyphenated and not because my parents were unmarried or wanted to combine names.

The story goes that my 3x great grandfather registered the birth of his son. He wanted to give the baby a middle name but the person writing the document wrote both names under 'surname'. And such our surname was born. It's been that way ever since.

I took dhs name when we got married. Judge away.

Ellle · 06/02/2017 09:55

I find this thread quite interesting from a cultural point of view. I can see how the country, society and the traditions or individual circumstances shape your view to certain things.

In that example Fortunatepiggy gave, if she had married in my country, changing her maiden name to a married name would be adding the husband's surname to hers. So she would have been Fortunatepiggy Middleton of Smith. Or just Fortunatepiggy of Smith for short.

My mum did this at first, and found that it was a problem when she had always been known by her maiden name in her profession. Then years later she changed it back although she was still married to my dad. She has always loved her family name, and didn't like my dad's so much as it was difficult to spell for other people not being a very common surname.
So she always gave me that advice, to not bother changing my maiden name as the paperwork resulting from being known by two names wasn't worth it.

So I kept my name (with two surnames, one from my dad and one from my mum). DH kept his surname. And our sons have a combination of both our surnames in the way of the Spanish tradition.

DianaMemorialJam · 06/02/2017 10:02

I took my husbands name
I honestly didn't realise it would make some people froth

Live and let live dudes Flowers

MixedGrill · 06/02/2017 10:18

Diana: I did not take my husband's name. I had an inkling it might make some people froth. And lo! So it has come to pass.

Have a little think about it all, and live and let live, dudes.

Alaia5 · 06/02/2017 10:36

I'm from Spain and had two surnames as is normal over there. DH's has an Argentinian name that is like a mini-sentence "something-something of the something". So I dropped both my names and I didn't give a hoot. One was Sanchez anyway which is like Smith or something over here and millions have it. I wanted to take DH's name - and yes, I'm fully aware of the reasons why women have done this over the course of British history. I doubt many women who take their husband's names need this to be explained to them. Anyway, now we tend to just use the first word in our surname or the first two words if they fit on the form.

elQuintoConyo · 06/02/2017 10:47

I'm in Spain and didn't change my surname on marriage. If I had been in the UK I wouldn't have changed it either because I quite like my surname and DH's is hilarious

Our ds has both surnames. DH is from a large family and there are 7 cousins in our very small town with the same surname but with different first/second surname (depending on their chosen order). Fwiw ds has his name my-surname dh-surname order, eg:

Mary Smellie
Donald Trump
Johnny Smellie Trump.

What's not to love?

DianaMemorialJam · 06/02/2017 10:49

Mixed it really does! It makes me sad because the main reason I changed mine, not only because his surname is nice and goes with my first name, but mainly because my maiden name has negative connotations for me after being abused and treated very badly by my father. I like to think of myself as a feminist, but maybe I'm not Sad

reuset · 06/02/2017 10:51

Some of those using two surnames don't use the hyphen, though, Bert. Not here, I wouldn't know, but in real life. Though I agree about the double barrel. I'd call it a double surname instead I think.

Similar to first names, there are hyphenated firsts and those without the hyphen are usually double firsts, or double Christian names (as they were in the olden days Grin)

In my country of origin it's more traditional to take the father's or the mother's surname, not so much the double surname.

MargaretCavendish · 06/02/2017 10:54

Diana, of course you're still a feminist, but changing your name on marriage isn't a feminist choice. It might have been a good choice for you, but it wasn't a feminist one. That's ok, we all make non-feminist choices all the time! When I got married I wore a white(ish) dress and my dad walked me up the aisle. Those were not feminist choices. They weren't bad choices, and they were my choices, but they aren't feminist ones. Not every choice a woman makes is feminist! It won't get you kicked out of the nonexistent club.