It's been just over a week, and what a week. Amazing. So good. The best.

[amispartacus]

Follow up from previous thread.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2837382-Donald-Trump-the-first-week-is-BAD-What-next-Come-all-ye-Beautifuls?

According to Donnie, the ban is going 'very nicely'.

CNN International ‏*@cnni* 4m4 minutes ago
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White House overruled Department of Homeland Security guidance that travel ban did not apply to green card holders

You have to jump through so many hoops to get a green card. So previously vetting was all shit?

The Independent

US border agents are checking people’s Facebook pages for their political views before allowing them into the country, an immigration lawyer has claimed.

Anyone starting to wonder if he might be removed from office via a successful coup? A week ago you'd all have laughed at this suggestion, but now?

From an article written last February.....

"Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal, too. I want to bring everything crashing down." -- Steve Bannon

Oh yes, that's thorough. Because a crack agent would put 'I 💗 terror' as their Facebook status, eh?

I think this is an issue with Therasa May's personality and temperament. She has always come across as someone who has a very strong view on how something will be done and what should happen. There has been lots of noise since she took office about her micromanaging and not taking advice or differing opinions well.

I wonder if it is that she has build in her mind an image of how her relationship with America will work, what should happen and how Britain will be after brexit. Unfortunately the other participants in this are not playing their parts as they should. She just doesn't know how to react to this change in circumstances. America is not acting in the way she feels it ought to and now she has to adjust her mental map. I think this is something she finds hard to do and that it takes her time to rewrite her scripts.

Interesting what Sturgeon tweeted.

I can see another call for a referendum on independence.
Apparently Trump does not want to be greeted by Charles when he comes here. That meeting and visit will be so divisive.

Elon Musk (Tesla) is speaking out on Twitter against the ban. Wasn't the government courting him big time last week? Seems to me I read something about him pulling out of a German contact to do something for the US? Will have to look for that.

Well, May better come out blazing and fast. This is not good.

but I have to admit I never (could never) have predicted that our post Breixit vulnerability, economically speaking, would mean we are in a position whereby our PM can't fully condemn such abhorrent action from the POTUS

UK Plc is for sale to any bidder. All offers considered. No principles attached

the ban is going 'very nicely'.

How would you know if it were successful? It's not as though there is going to be a big reduction in terrorism in the US from nationals from these countries.

Although I suppose what he means is that it's going well according to Fox News.

#StopPresidentBannon is flying around twitter. People are thinking that Bannon is behind all of it and Trump is a witless pawn. (ha - typed prawn twice before I managed the right word)

I have to admit I never (could never) have predicted that our post Breixit vulnerability, economically speaking, would mean we are in a position whereby our PM can't fully condemn such abhorrent action from the POTUS.

I'm sure you never realised, but it was clearly a possible consequence.
Not only in relation to the US but other countries.

"Better a bird in the hand than two flying"

And how is that grass looking on the other side?

born I too would like to shamelessly plagiarise borrow from your email, if I may?

The Hitler references are getting louder and louder.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-refugee-ban-anne-frank-nazi-germany-persecution-jews-syrians-a7551206.html

I wonder if it is that she has build in her mind an image of how her relationship with America will work, what should happen and how Britain will be after brexit. Unfortunately the other participants in this are not playing their parts as they should. She just doesn't know how to react to this change in circumstances.

This was probably Neville Chamberlain's problem - he behaved with integrity and assumed that Hitler would do so too.

protest on Monday is now up to 2.1K going, 5.5K interested.

ginger seems like a Bannon and Kushner double act. I haven't heard much from Pence recently, wonder what he is up to?

I have to admit I never (could never) have predicted that our post Breixit vulnerability, economically speaking, would mean we are in a position whereby our PM can't fully condemn such abhorrent action from the POTUS.

^^I'm afraid it was entirely predictable. I have a FB status from months before the referendum where I talk about the dangers of voting for Brexit and ending up with one friend, and that one friend being Trump.

But of course I was just 'scaremongering'

Neville Chamberlain..... is THAT why so many people are putting #Chamberlain ?!?! I completely missed that. Thanks for that.

snapcrap, I feel that when faced with Trump's actions, it's better for like-minded leavers and remainers to be united in condemning this. If you do feel strongly enough to write to your MP, it might be worth mentioning that you are a leave voter, just to help counteract the narrative that May is reflecting the will of the 52%.

Badgers even more appalling when you consider Kushner is Jewish.

Exactly peregrina. I don't agree with a lot of May's policies, but she comes across as a very structured and logical person. I suspect she is struggling with the idea that she is dealing with someone so different to the way she thinks. She, like many others have done, is trying to find the logic and reason in Trump's actions, assuming even that it must be there.