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This is bullshit :- brexit

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EveOnline2016 · 24/01/2017 10:04

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-supreme-court-ruling-judges-defy-theresa-may-and-hand-power-to-parliament-a7542406.html

I can see the MP voting to stay in.

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SooWrites · 24/01/2017 10:31

Meanwhile the EU has issued a directive on how brown a roast potato is allowed to be.

Yup. EU officials are due on your doorstop this sunday to make sure your roast dinner meets their standards.

If it wasn't so fucking terrifyingly real it would be hillarious. I mean, you couldn't make this shit up, could you?

AnUtterIdiot · 24/01/2017 10:32

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e1y1 · 24/01/2017 10:32

Nope not bullshit.

I am sure this has been said to death, but anyway, the referendum was NOT legally binding, it was a PARLIAMENTARY ADVISORY - so the vote advised Parliament what the "public" 17 million wanted and now Parliament will act with the advisory in mind.

derxa · 24/01/2017 10:33

I'm a Remainer but I just think we have to leave now. I think the motives of the people bringing the case weren't rooted in democracy. It's right that we follow the directive of the judges but I'm weary.

icanteven · 24/01/2017 10:34

With regard to the OP, I think that although 74% of parliament supported Brexit, they may be obliged to vote it through. However, they could take a constituency by constituency approach, which would still allow Brexit through, but also allow MP's to respect the will of their constituents.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 24/01/2017 10:34

A good commentator has just tweeted that May has lost but this will tear Labour apart.

mythbustinggov · 24/01/2017 10:34

itsnoteasybeingdifferent

The roast potato thing is nothing to do with the, why on earth do you think it is?

It's our very own Food Standards Agency, see www.food.gov.uk/news-updates/news/2017/15890/families-urged-to-go-for-gold-to-reduce-acrylamide-consumption

Bushymuffmum · 24/01/2017 10:35

People voted to leave the EU I'm not sure they all knew exactly what they were voting for.

Assumptive and arrogant! the truth is no one, including the remainers, knew exactly what they were voting for and won't until article 50 is triggered. Things should be done properly that is only right. But please stop with this "everyone who voted to leave is naive/thick" mentality.

AnUtterIdiot · 24/01/2017 10:35

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HecateAntaia · 24/01/2017 10:36

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mythbustinggov · 24/01/2017 10:36

Nothing to do with the EU.
Stupid phone.

Jeanstootight · 24/01/2017 10:36

It's a pita,a waste of tax payers money, increases uncertainty and will only delay (possibly) the inevitable. We just need to get on with it!

GinIsIn · 24/01/2017 10:36

You wanted democracy. This IS democracy. Only 36% of the voting public voted brexit, so not a majority.

fleuricle · 24/01/2017 10:36

The Supreme Court is ensuring the correct legal process is followed.
Parliamentary Sovereignty. As cherished by Brexiteers.

I'd WET MYSELF if May and Co appealed to the EU about this Grin

random79 · 24/01/2017 10:37

The judgement was over whether the government could withdraw from the EU unilaterally - the referendum was a complete red herring and had no force in UK law. The MPs when they agreed the referendum bill were TOLD it had no force in UK law.

Imagine a different scenario - the day after the referendum - remain has won. David Cameron triggers article 50 anyway because he felt like it.

The government's position was that the above would have been completely legal.

That is what the Supreme Court ruling was about.

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RachelRagged · 24/01/2017 10:38

Voted Remain but it angers me a group of rich people , who will not be identified, has trampled all over this .

I see some of you are beside yourself with happiness and glee though. Some of you deserve the handle Remoaners

hackmum · 24/01/2017 10:38

"the people have voted and the people wants to leave the EU"

The judges' ruling supports the sovereignty of parliamentary democracy.

Let's take an analogy, albeit an imperfect one. During a general election, people might vote overwhelmingly for a Conservative government that has campaigned (say) to reintroduce grammar schools. But when the government decides to carry through that policy, they can't just unilaterally reintroduce grammar schools. They have to put the exact detail of the reintroduction into a parliamentary bill that then has to be discussed by MPs and the House of Lords. The bill may be amended by parliament before it is finally voted on and passed into law. That is the very essence of our parliamentary democracy. People debate the arguments, they point out the flaws in the bill, they propose amendments - and all this is carried out in front of the media so that we, the voting public, can hear the arguments for ourselves.

For the government to say that it will implement Brexit without having the exact proposals scrutinised by parliament flies in the face of our constitution, our traditions and democratic accountability.

PenguinRoar · 24/01/2017 10:38

Derxa...

You say we have to leave, but with what terms?

What will the new laws be?
What rights will our citizens have, and those who visit or immigrate/emmigrate?
How do we trade, on what terms?
How do we fill the funding gaps left by our exit?

Who gets to decide this?

It's exactly this kind of flippant response that led to Gina miller bringing this case, because it's not simple and not legal for Theresa May to make these decisions without full consultation and negotiation with parliament.

ghostyslovesheets · 24/01/2017 10:39

Pmsl at the classic leavers understanding of - well- everything!

We want parliamentary sovereignty ... there you go ... oh no that's not what we meant at all 😜

And potatoes!!!!!

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 24/01/2017 10:39

Only 36% of the voting public voted brexit, so not a majority.

Tbf you can't include those who didn't vote. They chose not to vote. You also can't assume which way the would have voted.

SooWrites · 24/01/2017 10:39

It's a pita,a waste of tax payers money, increases uncertainty and will only delay (possibly) the inevitable. We just need to get on with it!

It takes away May's (you know May, the unelected PM) right to shape Brexit all on her lonesome without any input from the democratically elected parliament.

That is not a waste of tax payers money. Yes, we will undoubtedly leave, but at least this way some damage control can be put in place. May's hard brexit was utter lunacy.

MaudGonneMad · 24/01/2017 10:39

Yep, happiness and glee that the proper legal and parliamentary process is upheld. That protects ALL of us, Leavers and Remainers alike.

ghostyslovesheets · 24/01/2017 10:39

Oh and the referendum was never a legally binding vote

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