To wonder why some people are in denial about their weight?

[penciltop]

Not criticising anyone here but just wondering.

I had a morbidly obese friend who says she is that size because she is muscular and has 'big bones'. I don't comment but she clearly has a lot of fat on her body and she does overeat.

I have come across other people too who say people are healthier these days so are going to be bigger. People say it is because of genetics. Everyone is overweight in their family and that is the reason they are.

I know weight loss isn't easy - trying to lose weight myself! - but surely pretending it is because of reasons outside of your control isn't going to help. People keep telling me I am fine and I don't need to lose weight. Err yes I do according to BMI. I am in the overweight category

Not denying the reasons for people who have real medical reasons such as disabilities or because of medication

Op you're starting to sound a bit odd.

I wasn't nasty to you at all. It's YOU that is obsessed with (other) people who are overweight

Gwen yes you have that right. But op is bordering on strange obsession. And being overweight herself, I'm not really sure she has a leg to stand on as far as criticising overweight people is concerned.

penciltop when you say "friends"? How many and what dose? Small doses of steroids tend not give the Cushing-style side effects.

Honestly, you sound really hateful about overweight people especially ill ones. I think you're projecting negative feelings about yourself. On the whole, most people who have been overweight are kind and empathetic towards others. Still, there's always one.

I just noticed that you're still overweight. I thought you had been. That makes your bonkers ranting even worse!

Fizz, Op has started a thread on Mumsnet. That hardly counts as an obsession. In any case, we should be obsessed with it. We're going to end up with people needing to be air lifted out of their house or transported to hospital in a truck rather than an ambulance if we don't do something about this problem. It's getting worse and worse and still people seem to be in a kind of collective denial.

I haven't seen the Op being nasty to anyone.

Thanks for the reports, everyone. We think this has just turned quite nasty, so we're going to remove it shortly.

Certain people have become nasty Katherine, not 'the thread' itself. Looks like people get punished for reporting certain posts.

Agree with Gwen certain posters have become nasty.

Don't understand why whole thread has to be deleted. People were bringing up really interesting views and perspectives.

Pleased Helena post got deleted though

Never understand why people get upset with any topic being posted here. If you don't like it ignore it. No need to accuse the OP of being obsessed

I thought you wanted different views? I find you a bit hypocrital op.

I'm glad it's been deleted. OP namedchanged to goad on here which is nasty in itself to be honest.

It's not been deleted yet candy

Enough time to report your post

I'm not accusing you of trolling. I don't think you are. I'm saying that you - like many others on here - use the name change facility to post goady things.

As many have pointed out, the obesity crisis affect us all - it's a society-wide problem. We all have the right to comment on it.

Is that supposed to be a convincing figleaf for body-shaming?

Boozing and the binge drinking culture affects us all Its a society wide problem We all have the right to comment on it.

Wonder how this comment would fly if i ( a teetotaller)posted it over on the sober threads.

"Is that supposed to be a convincing figleaf for body-shaming? confused"

Um, no. It's me trying to say that I think it's important that we all talk about the obesity problem.

Helena, I'm a moderate drinker and I also reserve the right to comment binge drink culture and to criticise it if I want to. Are sober people (do you actually mean alcoholics?) going to disagree with that and claim that they are the only ones who can talk about it?

I strongly suspect i would get told i dont know what im talking about.

Because it seems to be one rule for drink and drugs (which ive never done either) and another for weight.

Candy has a point OP If you really believe in what you are saying why name change.

Gwen hasnt and while i dont agree with what shes saying i respect her for not sneakily name changing to do so.

Cant say the same for you OP.
At least shes prepared to stand by her comments.

"Because it seems to be one rule for drink and drugs (which ive never done either) and another for weight."

I don't really agree. The advice for drinking is similar to food - don't overdo it and be careful. Drugs, if you mean street drugs, are illegal so that's a different matter.

There is a difference, though. You can do without alcohol and other drugs entirely - you can't do without food. You can do without some types of food, but you can't quit entirely. Some people find that cutting out alcohol or illegal drugs entirely is the only way to control it for them, but if you do that with food, you won't survive, and it can take a lot more will power to cut out some rather than all.

I think it is much more socially acceptable to drink too much (which actually is a lot less than people think) than be overweight.

I think it is much more socially acceptable to drink too much (which actually is a lot less than people think) than be overweight

I agree with this actually. Drinking too much is not associated with the same negatives as being overweight is for some reason.

Neither is healthy obviously but I do think excessive drinking escapes a bollocking.

Depends what you mean by excessive drinking. Getting a bit drunk sometimes is part of our culture, yes, but there's a lot of criticism of binge drinking and people who get drunk and end up in A&E. And yes, obviously drink can be given up completely whereas food can't.

I think excessive drinking escapes because you can't see it all the time whereas overweight and obesity can always be seen hence the judgements.