To wonder why some people are in denial about their weight?

[penciltop]

Not criticising anyone here but just wondering.

I had a morbidly obese friend who says she is that size because she is muscular and has 'big bones'. I don't comment but she clearly has a lot of fat on her body and she does overeat.

I have come across other people too who say people are healthier these days so are going to be bigger. People say it is because of genetics. Everyone is overweight in their family and that is the reason they are.

I know weight loss isn't easy - trying to lose weight myself! - but surely pretending it is because of reasons outside of your control isn't going to help. People keep telling me I am fine and I don't need to lose weight. Err yes I do according to BMI. I am in the overweight category

Not denying the reasons for people who have real medical reasons such as disabilities or because of medication

Tbh those who are lying are only embarrassing themselves by lying. I'm slightly overweight at the minute, but I know its my own doing.

Of course there are thyroid conditions and certain disabilities that can make a person over weight. But in general most people make excuses. Nobody has a right to question another person's body and shame them though. But some overweight people do just go on and on when nobody has asked. I don't care what size ppl are tbh.

I love the gym and go everyday....I do strength classes, hiit, spin etc. I'm still over weight. Exercise does very little in terms of weight loss if you don't change your diet. I go because it is good for my mental health.

Like I said previously, I can only get and stay within the normal bmi range if I eat one meal a day. How is that healthy? How can others eat 3 sensible meals a day and be within the normal bmi range?

I think there are reasons we don't yet know why people get fatter than others.

True but most of the time it is overeating. Certainly is in my case. Portion sizes too big, eating more than my body actually needs, thinking one more won't matter etc

There are much easier ways to eat healthily (and lose weight) than CC, weighing of food. etc.

DH is obese and whenever he has stopped eating bread\carbs with protein. He loses weight immediately. The problem is of course that .that is how we have all been bought up to eat, it's traditional. l The telly chefs have to cool it with their weird food combinations too.

Like I said previously, I can only get and stay within the normal bmi range if I eat one meal a day. How is that healthy?

Why is that not healthy? That is actually a healthy way to eat. The whole concept of three meals a day is something drummed into us but not necessarily needed for everyone. I often only eat twice a day and this works and controls my appetite better. I am losing weight too

What is in that one meal though?

I do agree that 3 meals a day doesn't suit everyone. My point really is that many people are quick to dismiss genetics. So, how can some people eat three meals a day and stay at normal weight whereas others can't? Bear in mind, when I used to eat one meal a day, I was in my early twenties, I still wasn't skinny (top end of my bmi normal range) and spent a lot of time bloody hungry!

i'd be really interested to see what genetics are at play that only emerged in the last 20 or so years and seems to be based mainly in Europe and America.

Well of course diet and exercise in modern, western countries plays a huge part but I don't believe it's the whole picture.

Genetics affects our height, hair, eye colour, certain health conditions...We all accept that. Why wouldn't it affect our body shape, weight and metabolism too?

That's why I mentioned my blood type former that explains why some people find it hard\impossible to lose weight and others don't. dH shouldn't have sugar (of any type except molasses) or dairy (the paleo diet suits him best). He doesn't get it though. He is not in denial he just loves food too much. and has no will power .

Try the Paul Mackenna You MUSTN'T go hungry with it.

I thought there was no evidence to support the blood type diet and that it was another one of these fad type diets?

because if it was a phenomena then it'd affect everyone equally no? And there were barely any obese people in the times that food was scarcer and life was more active.

hence the 'eat less/better and move more and you wont be fat' it's pretty obvious no? Or do you think there's been a mutation of metabolic rates that only affects people who eat too much and don't move enough?

Agree we eat to much and nice a lot less genrally than we did years back you don't even have to look that much into it
Invention of cars
Fast food restaurants
Etc etc
I honestly think we eat far more than we actually need

I say this as someone who is having to restrain themselfs front going to make a sandwich ( Iv already had breakfast )

Nice ? Move *

Of course if you eat less and move more you lose weight. However, the rate at which you lose weight will depend on the person. If I eat one meal a day, I can be a normal weight. If someone else ate one meal a day, they would be underweight. I wouldn't be fat if I had to live through a famine clearly.

I believe it's a combination of genes and behaviour... from what I've read about the issue, this is a pretty much accepted theory.

Well I've been on it since 1998 Assasinated As have plenty of others . It works well for me . If you've got health issues then it's definitely worth a go. I know soo many people who are many years younger than me and in a terrible state. They only need to give up a couple of foods to get better but don't, it's an emotional thing with some people.

it would depend on what you ate in that meal, and what others eat in the same course of a day.

I have friends who will feel sated on a banana and a bowl of veg soup at lunch time, others who only feel sated on soup if they've had a buttered french stick followed by banoffee pie... part of this is down to the way you have eaten/stretched your stomach in the past.

If I have just soup and an apple the chances are about 3 hours later I will be rustling round for a perk me up, If I ignore the bit of hunger then it passes. Others will have a milky coffee and a four fingered kitkat...

If you start the day with a breakfast that sends your sugars high and then crashes then you have to get through the day trying to recover that 'high'.

Re-train your body to eat small portions of slow release energy foods.

Well it's restricted diet so you'll probably lose weight on the blood type diet, but there's no evidence it makes a difference depending on your blood type.

hoddtastic

I know how to lose weight...I am not obese, but I am overweight. I'm not particularly concerned with losing weight right now, I have other things going on in my life which I'm focusing on...So I don't need advice. I exercise everyday.

My point is, some people will be able to eat regular meals and snacks and remain a healthy weight, whilst others will need to eat significantly less to remain a healthy weight. Why is that? I don't know why you're trying to discount genetics as part of the cause of obesity?

It's to do with the lectins in the food and how they react with your blood type. e.g. I always thought that tomatoes and oranges were good for me so I ate them and I always had quite bad eczema. When I didn't eat them after seeing there were an avoid for my blood type. I don't have eczema any more. But they're fine for B types.

It explains why a lot of us are veggie and a lot of us aren't. Interestingly it doesn't say that any of us should be vegan.

Re-train your body to eat small portions

I think this is the key.

Yup penciltop that's what i've done with the Paul Mackenna, he is a great help. You have to eat\chew slowly and really taste your food. It makes your stomach smaller. I eat more often but smaller nutritious meals.

You know it is simple to say what people should do. It is like it is easy when you are not a parent to say how people should parent well. Actually doing something is much much harder. 95% of people who lose weight put it back on. That is because it is extremely hard to change lifestyles as adults

i know all this brasty, I am disputing the 'it's genetic/heavy bones' etc.

It isn't, it's eating too much of the wrong things and not moving enough, and you've probably been 'trained' to eat this way from your parents, and to treat yourself with food and to eat massive portions and snack every day and go to the cinema with a 2.5k bonus calories of stuff between meals...

some people will be on meds which make them hold on to weight, some people will have a thyroid issue. Most people who are overweight don't have either of those problems, and it is disingenuous to suggest they do.