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Rude or just social unaware

197 replies

user1484493755 · 19/01/2017 22:10

I have a male friend. He's very loyal. He's very generous with his time. He's helped me with university work greatly and has stayed in close contact now for 6 years.

Generally we get on great. I've often wondered if he has very mild Asperger as he doesn't seem to always pick up on body language or seem to see certain situations are not socially acceptable.

He would visit our mutual friend who has a toddler at 7pm and doesn't seem to notice she's trying to put him to bed and now is not a good time until she told him and he stopped popping round.

I meet up with this friend every fortnight in town and we go for a meal. He's recently visiting his mum who is in hospital and he goes past my house on his way back so asks to pop round 'for lunch'. He arrives at 1pm every fortnight at lunch time and eats plenty of food.

I know I'm an absolute idiot for putting up with it but I do that because we've been friends for 6 years and he's been a very loyal friend. He never asks for any favours (except coming at lunch time).

I have now however, decided not to do it anymore. He warns 35k a year and him and is partner have a joint income of 70k a year. I have 13k a year and a child to provide for.

I would tell him to come late afternoon but it wouldn't make any difference he'd just not have lunch and expect it later.

I often wonder if he's just rude and stingy with money, or actually has some kind of autism.

I know you don't know him but do you think it's a little mean to choose not to see him at lunch time if I have to provide lunch for him?

My other friends bring me lunch when they come at lunch time. He never even brings some drinks!

When he goes to a house party he doesn't bring anything either.

And yet gives a card and present (not expensive one but it the thought) on my birthday and Christmas and would help you out in any kind of emergency.

He has been a reference for me many times as he was my boss at one point.

I have seen him with his mum who is a single parent and she doesn't seem to have ever taught him manners or how to be considerate. Something he seems to not have learnt in adult life either.

His partner is amazing. They've been together a year now and he's helped him so much and has taught him he needs to bring a present to a house party.

It's weird he's 30 and wouldn't know this already!

So I'm rambling now. AIBU to not see him if it means I've got to give him lunch? And does it seem like he's on the autistic specified or just rude?

OP posts:
mouldycheesefan · 20/01/2017 11:31

Beans on toast. It's cheap.
Or say lunchtime doesn't suit I can meet you at the park at 3pm.
I can't see thr issue to be honest. Suggest meeting somewhere that isn't your home or isn't at a meal time.
"I will pop by"
Actually I have plans but I will be at the park at 2pm with dcs if you want to come.

Foureyesarebetterthantwo · 20/01/2017 11:39

Op at least you are happy with your decision, even if it does seem slightly bewildering from the outside. You say he never asks for other favours, will help you in an emergency, remembers your birthday/Christmas with cards and presents so it's hardly like he's a user all the time, and he also helps you out with good references and so on.

You don't have to like him though, or continue the friendship!

jojo2916 · 20/01/2017 11:40

I don't know if there's enough info to judge re ASD but I do think a bit of lunch is a small price to pay for a loyal friend who would help you out in any emergency, I expect it's thoughtlessness rather than being tight, obviously don't spend much lunch wise though.

DJBaggySmalls · 20/01/2017 11:44

YANBU, I used to know someone like that and it ended up being every night. You have to tell them straight out; I earn a quarter of what you do, you need to bring your own lunch. Then you can provide the plates and cutlery.

Katy07 · 20/01/2017 12:07

I think you'd made your decision before you posted but with so many people saying YABU and suggesting what you could do to sort it out you've changed the focus of your posts to (try and) support your opinion.
You refuse to tell him there's a problem. You refuse to ask him to bring some food. You say he's adapted his behaviour successfully to other social issues when it was brought to his attention but refuse to give him the chance here. You say he's a great friend in many ways but don't think that he's worth a sandwich, or even a text asking him to bring a sandwich for both of you. I'm not thinking he's the one at fault here.....

MakeMyWineADouble · 20/01/2017 12:30

Poor bloke started of as a loyal slightly socially unaware friend and has end as a user who is out to take advantage of you sandwiches 🤔

Bluntness100 · 20/01/2017 12:39

Wow, you've really got issues with feeding a mate a couple of times a month. Didn't have any issues in asking for references or help though. Right?

I have a friend who pops in unexpectedly a ton of times a month on his way past. Eats his body weight in biscuits every time. My only thought is I hope I have enough biscuits in.

JessicaEccles · 20/01/2017 12:56

You say he 'knows' he's taking the piss but that you can't tell him because he'll be 'devastated'? Whereas polling all your friends above his behavior then ghosting him will be fine?!
I don't think he's the weird one.....

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 20/01/2017 13:07

I don't think he's the weird one....

No,I think that's quite obvious.

GingerIvy · 20/01/2017 14:16

yoy don't know him. None of you do so can't possibly say I'm being unreasonable

So your point in posting was..... Hmm

Ciutadella · 20/01/2017 16:12

"FWIW all our mutual friends have told me to stop making him lunch. They know him so I'm going to take their opinion over people who don't know me or him aren't it."

Have you discussed this with all your mutual friends? I have to admit if I were him I would find that very hurtful.

In general I think people can give different things to a friendship - eg time/money/help - so i wouldn't be looking for an exact balance. But I realise that is easy to say and not so easy to do if on a very tight budget. He does sound as if he has been incredibly generous with his time/loyalty etc though so I wouldn't begrudge the preparation and washing up time.

TreacleTreacleLittleStar · 20/01/2017 16:21

If the cost is your concern I don't see a problem in a sachet of pasta & sauce twice a month?! (He'll soon get bored of it and start bringing Big Macs!

If it's the principle of it, I'd suggest taking it in turns to provide the food? X

expatinscotland · 20/01/2017 16:52

'But I know him better and know he's taking advantage.'

So say something to him. Maybe he'll come to the conclusion that you take advantage of his time and move on.

moongirl123 · 20/01/2017 17:00

Poor bloke started of as a loyal slightly socially unaware friend and has end as a user who is out to take advantage of you sandwiches 🤔

Agreed. OP, I hope next time when you need his help he will tell you where to go.

MommaGee · 20/01/2017 17:16

But I know him better and know he's taking advantage

I wonder if his friends bought the same when he was helping you with your INI work for 6 years

Trollspoopglitter · 20/01/2017 17:41

I hope his new partner will help him see you're a user and he should distancing himself from you.

mycatwantstokillme1 · 20/01/2017 17:43

DO you know something, you'll be doing him a favour because you're really not worthy of a friendship with him if you've discussed this with all your mutual friends. You're eve nmore out of order now than when you first posted.

monkeywithacowface · 20/01/2017 18:01

Ha Ha love a bonkers OP on AIBU.

jadeyty · 20/01/2017 18:01

When you say he eats a lot of food. Does he eat the food you offer him only or take a look in the cupboard and take what he fancies? If the latter, that is totally unacceptable.

I see what you're saying about it being the principle. Sounds like he expects it. But he genuinely may not see the problem with you giving him lunch. So, if you want him to change, you need to let him know! Subtle hints as other people have said "I've got no food in, could you bring something, I think it's your turn to feed me anyway!"

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 20/01/2017 18:20

Subtle hints as other people have said "I've got no food in, could you bring something, I think it's your turn to feed me anyway!"

Do you know what subtle actually means?Grin

nicenewdusters · 20/01/2017 18:32

Agree with you Monkey. AIBU at it's best. Never was a lunch so grudgingly given !!

PuppyMonkey · 20/01/2017 18:32

Things have moved on here I see but, if it were me I'd just text him the day before and say you've got jobs to do in town all afternoon so you'll meet him there if he wants and you can both eat out at Gregg's or something (and pay for your own meal). This is probably too simple though, so apologies about that.

user1484926943 · 20/01/2017 19:58

In absolutely no way are you being unreasonable.

Inviting yourself to someone's house for lunch is incredibly rude it's almost unbelievable.

No way would I make someone lunch at their request. And I'm not stingy or mean at all.

Who the hell does he think he is. He's not socially unaware. He's just rude and selfish.

MommaGee · 20/01/2017 21:25

*user1484926943

In absolutely no way are you being unreasonable.

Inviting yourself to someone's house for lunch is incredibly rude it's almost unbelievable.

No way would I make someone lunch at their request. And I'm not stingy or mean at all*

But he's not a random stranger. He helped her through Uni, he's given her references, they see each other fortnightly for lunch and she goes round his for takeout. His mom is in hospital

If she didn't want to meet him at hers she shod have said no. She still could but she won't put on her big girl pants and talk to him

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 21/01/2017 02:57

...he may well be seeing 6 years uni help and reference writing as a adequate 'payment' for a sandwich lunch twice monthly.

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