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How the heck do working mums manage this?!

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LosAngeles444 · 17/01/2017 16:45

Returned to work after maternity leave, DS 6 months old. DH works longer hours so I'm responsible for the nursery drop off and pick up. Morning, I drive DS to nursery, drive back home to park the car, walk 10 mins to train station to get into work. Have to leave work at 4pm to pick up DS from nursery.

Only just started this new routine and already knackered! How the heck do mums manage this? Aibu for thinking this is unsustainable and you just burn out at some point? I've only got one DS so know I can't really complain but it's already damn tough. How do you do it?

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HandsFaceTeeth · 19/01/2017 00:55

Oh, totally agree with what you just said!

Postchildrenpregranny · 19/01/2017 01:08

At last someone (fruitbat) raises the issue -'bad employee'.I do wonder how much value some of the exhausted people on here are to their employers . And yes ,I worked full time for 15 years and raised two children though they were both at school ( 4year gap ,one round the corner one a convenient secondary school bus ride away)by the time my DH worked ft again , after being made redundant .IIt helped that I worked within 15mins drive of home ,used school before and after club for DD2 and had a cleaner/ironer.Very senior job which oddly made life easier as I had quite a lot of autonomy/flexibility (had my DCs late in life .Had to go back when DH made redundant )And a very understanding male boss .
It was the job (which I did enjoy)which exhausted me not the 'juggling'.

Want2bSupermum · 19/01/2017 01:54

Also, it's worth looking long term at your whole set up. We moved closer to the city and it's been well worth accepting a small space. There are so many more working parents, my commute is manageable (except when they stick me on a horrible client in the middle of nowhere I can only drive to!) and there are lots of students who love earning money looking after children. Not to mention there are a lot more services to help your home run smoothly. Namely laundry and cleaning services.

campervan07 · 19/01/2017 05:01

It is hard. When I was pregnant with dc 2 and working dull time the tiredness pushed me over the edge. I had some counselling and the guy I spoke to said we should discuss what I do in a day and how to make it easier. After thirty minutes he said `your day is bloody hard work. I don't know how you do it and I don't know how else to make it easier as you have it organised'. It actually made me feel much better as I felt a failure for struggling. Now I just think fuck it if things slip. I don't do anything worse than everyone else here. Just remember that it is hard work.

Some tips I have are always cook meals that last two days to half the cooking time. Only wear clothes that can survive without ironing. I buy porridge from the work canteen everyday and do my make up at work.

Also remember the good bits. . Sometimes you actually get a lunch break where you can do things you want! I usually do jobs in my break but take 15 minutes to just walk and relax. . I also actually enjoy my one hour drive to work as I listen to the radio, watch the sun come up etc. .

I also occasionally have to travel for work. I hate being away from my babies BUT I get uninterrupted sleep, I can read in the evenings or go to the pool or have a bath etc. . I found it helps me to remind myself what is good or I focus only on the bad and struggle more.

HermioneWoozle · 19/01/2017 05:10

I never managed it - not like that anyway. DH always picked up if I dropped off. Worked 4 days a week, never full time when they were little. Family support nearby too. Even so, gave up my job when DDs were 5 and 2 and worked for myself for a few years as I was so depressed and burned out. Went back to my career job when they were older, and it is easier now.

Jeanstootight · 19/01/2017 07:34

Consider the position long term is your set up workable? Does your DH need to look at his hours? Ideally if you are both working he needs to do his fair share of drop offs pick ups? Would a childminder/nanny share work better? Would you be better living closer to work/family? Could you share drop offs and pick ups with another parent? Can one of you work from home one day a week? It's bloody hard work and tgere is so much pressure to just carry on as before it can take a while to sort out the adjustments you have to make to your lives (you and DH) to make it all work. Make the most of time on train and jealously guard at least 30 min of your lunch break that's your time to read etc get away from your desk, have early nights. Take it in turns for a lie in over the weekend

GoodbyeBlueMonday · 19/01/2017 07:40

We have a nanny who will do long hours, which is good. Unfortunately means through the week, I earn about £4 an hour by the time we pay her! Luckily I do a shift at the weekend so I can actually earn and not just pay for childcare to save my career/ sanity.
I have three though, it complicates things massively once you have more than one. It is a bugger but you will get there. I took a couple of years off with the kids, and that is just as exhausting to be honest. Children in general just are I think!

Stillwishihadabs · 19/01/2017 09:10

Did OP come back or have we scared her off ? Agree with many on here; get organised, dh to step up, early nights. Have to say I don't think wine is your friend here. It'seems so much easier to get up before 6 if you haven't had a drink the night before.

Mummy2jen · 19/01/2017 10:11

I have two drop offs!!! I drive half hour into north London (live in hertforshire) drop off my nearly four year old to nursery. Then a further 15 minutes up the road where I drop of my 20 month old son to his childminder. Then another 15 minutes up the road where I work. The same at pick up but by that time I get stuck in traffic...it's hell!!!!!! Luckily I work in a school so it's only 6-7 week blocks then I get a week or so break. To make it worse if my daughter doesn't get an early night she screams and fusses about her clothes in the morning so sometimes I feel so frustrated I end up threatening to leave her home and she quickly gets dressed. I'm knackered before I even get to work

Mummy2jen · 19/01/2017 10:12

Saying that I always make sure all of our clothes are laid out the night before. Keys etc in my bag and lunches prepared coats laid out by the door so it goes a bit smoothly

Lieveke77 · 19/01/2017 10:14

Ask one of the nursery staff if they can take your child home 1-2 days a week. Some are very happy to do this and make some extra money. This gives you two days to be norma and breath ...

NB (Why can't you DH do something ?!!)

Mummy2jen · 19/01/2017 10:17

Also forgot to say invest in a slow cooker.. that's helped a lot and online shop

iMogster · 19/01/2017 10:23

My DH has never done drop off or pick up. His job is not flexible and so I had to reduce my hours so I could do nursery (and now school) pick up drop off. I have accepted this. My DH lets me have a lie in at the weekend and some time to myself at the weekend, while he looks after kids. This is our compromise. I am knackered everyday but some rest at weekends makes it doable.

LosAngeles444 · 19/01/2017 10:27

Thank you for all the responses! Wow. Found out nursery staff can do drop offs which will make it easier on some days as DH can be the first home on those days. Means I won't be running around as much!
Also, think I will lower expectations at home on things like cleaning. Have to say DH is excellent and enjoys cooking for us! Not taking that pleasure away from him.... Smile

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tabithakitty · 19/01/2017 11:30

I have just one in nursery PT, and sometimes I feel like I have done a day;s work by the time I get in to the office! That said, we have animals who I deal with early doors before anybody else is up so I guess that compounds it! I'm not sure I fancy doing FT nursery / work and / or another baby...

TheDowagerDuchessofDenver · 19/01/2017 11:41

Cleaner.
Husband takes the baby in. We do it on a bike (baby on a bike seat, husband leaves seat and helmet at the childminders for me to pick up) which made it easier. You could leave seat at the nursery and park bike at the station?
I also made loads of packed lunchables and froze them - so he gets things like savoury muffins, fishcakes, potato pasties, falafels which can just be taken out of the freezer, defrosted and shoved in a lunchbox.

SimplyNigella · 19/01/2017 11:57

Huge sympathy from me, going back to work can be a real shock. It's fantastic news that your nursery can do pick ups, I would love that!

DH and I both work full time, I'm employed in a senior role and DH is self employed. I am officially home based, although I do also spend time in our office which is 2-3 hours away and can be sent anywhere in the country with frequent overnight stays. DH also travels nationwide and we have no local family support.

Every week we have to plan ahead and work out who is doing pick ups, drop offs, walking the dogs or dropping dogs off at doggy daycare.

My top tips for survival would be:

  • Start the day with Berrocca and Spatone, it makes such a difference to my energy levels
  • If you can afford it, get a cleaner (ideally one who also tidies up)
  • Ocado
  • Lower your standards as much as possible
  • Work from home a day a week if you can. This absolutely saves my sanity, not only because I can do few loads of washing and unpack an Ocado shop without it affecting my work, it is wonderful to come home to a silent, empty house and work alone. It definitely lowers my stress levels.
nickEcave · 19/01/2017 12:34

I just about had it all worked out - 2 primary aged DC, work 4 days a week in Central London. Then Southern Trains started adding an hour to my working day by being fucking useless so instead of commuting for 8 hours a week in order to work my 24 hours I now commute 12 hours to work the same number of hours and am in a permanent state of fury for those 12 hours!

Canadianclarelouise · 19/01/2017 12:34

Drop off and pick up is bad enough, especially with one in school, one in nursery on opposite sides of the railway tracks but it's when one is sick that things get really bad. I have no choice but to leave work to look after them. And mine are sick often.

Believeitornot · 19/01/2017 12:47

Same here nickEcave! But I do 4 days a week.

Now looking for lower paid but more local jobs. I've fucking had enough of southern

Morifarty · 19/01/2017 12:55

I really don't know, OP. I'm fucking exhausted.

manicmij · 19/01/2017 13:21

C hoices, choices! Choice about where you live,which job you have, where you work, having children or not having children, which nursery you would use, which school they he/she would attend. Life is full of choices and most of them are yours. Figure them out before you make them! I know this seems harsh but really, if you had given thought about how you would cope perhaps you shouldn't have put yourself in the position you are in now.

wtf2015 · 19/01/2017 13:25

Well, wine and chocolate help. I alternate coping as a single mum of 4 working full time by being really healthy, drinking loads of water and walking every day with drinking too much coffee and wine and eating too much cake and chocolate. Welcome to the madness!

girlsofsummer · 19/01/2017 13:30

My thoughts - based on many years of doing it and managing a busy career

•Make adjustments to the way you work – people will anticipate and expect it. Just do it the way you want to from the outset and make it work. This may depend on your job type. As kids get older it will change again.

• Lose the psychological divide between work and home. This is particularly helpful in the early years (there might come a later time when it helps to compartmentalise again). You might even find that the juggle between the two can, at times, even charge your adrenalin rather than drain it.

• Depending on what job you do, consider working full time (and getting paid for it) in a flexible way compared to working part-time. It might make more sense and be less stressful.

• If you have an intense transactional/client facing/ job that doesn’t switch off when you walk out, just make sure that everybody knows that even when you are not in the office you are still working and still available. Nobody can criticise you then.

• If there is a choice between disappointing work and arguing with your DP choose the former wherever reasonably practicable – angry partners will make your life stressful, work will get over it

• Do not work in the office late unless you absolutely have to. By that I mean a client meeting or those rare jobs where you have a deadline that really does have to be worked on by a whole team together sitting side by side. Don’t apologise when you have to go at a certain time – just do it, walk out, cut conversations short, whatever.

• Try to drop any perfectionist tendencies. You wont have time. If you can find someone good to delegate checking etc too then great. Perfectionism applies equally to motherhood as it does to work. But its all in your head, perfect doesn’t exist anyway in either sphere.

• Don’t treat mothering as a tick box exercise or a competitive sport – quality and closeness of your relationship matters more than many other things. There are good mothers who work a lot and there are bad mothers who stay home full time and vice versa.

• Whist getting pregnant may be very difficult at times, remember that having children does remain very common denominator amongst human beings. People are doing it everywhere regardless of wealth, health or mental faculty. It doesn’t have to be hard. Perfect doesn’t exist.

• It shouldn’t be a choice between working and kids. Kids are a natural normal part of life. Think of your new life as being the same but better ie. “I work really hard but now I have a fantastic home life as well to keep me sane and grounded”.

• Take a longer term view. Your child will not always be this stage. Things will change and you will adapt and make changes at each stage.

• Remind yourself that working to put food on the table and a roof over your family’s head is as much as act of love as trudging the kids everyday to the park in the rain (or all the other selfless acts of a parent at home) are.

• You will appreciate time with your children much more because you are working. This is possibly one of the biggest pluses for working even if it sometimes feels like a minus.

• Don’t sweat the small stuff. If you want to let your children come into your bed every night then do it. If you want to keep your kids up later so that you can all eat together as a family then do it. Whatever makes your life easier/allows you to meet the values that are most important to you.

• Learn what your most productive hours are – you might decide to prepare/cook dinner in the morning for example as you have more energy and willpower than you will on the return from work.

• I have met some inspirational women who see working in a full on job and having children as a badge of honour (as opposed to an object of pity). It’s an interesting mindset change.

Strokethefurrywall · 19/01/2017 13:35

hahahahaha, that's hilarious, good one manicmij Grin

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