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To ditch lifelong friends, or am i being 'touchy'? Long, sorry!

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ElllaKeat · 16/01/2017 18:45

This story has been festering with me for a couple of days now, so sorry for the long tale, but need proper feedback.

Backstory is i have a prominent and ugly mastectomy scar. Usually it is covered, but to be honest it does not bother ne if it is revealed, i dont flaunt it, but do not feel embarrassed if it is visible. It is just part of me and after 2 seperate mastectomies, chemotherapy, radiotherapy and delayed reconstructions, i am just happy to be healthy and still alive!

Me and DH have 6 lifelong friends - three married coupes. We have known them all for over thirty years and our social lives mainly involve them. We meet up roughly once a month, for everyones birthday, at Christmas etc. We have always gotten on well, had the usual niggles with each other, but as a crowd, we have all been accepting of each others quirks.

On Friday it was my birthday. We all got together for a meal on Friday night and i wore a new top that i loved. Slightly lower cut than normal, it still covered my scar.......until it kept slipping down had a bloody life of its own. If and when i noticed, i hitched my top up again and thought nothing more of it. DH and i went to the bar whilst waiting for the starters to be served to organise some bubbly and when we came back the atmosphere had changed, i knew something was not right. Things just felt a bit off.

Chatting was fine, on the surface, everything seemed okay, but i just had a feeling that something was wrong.

Anyway, after main course, i nipped to the loo and the woman i would consider my closest friend followed me in. She offered me a clean vest top she had in her gym bag in her car, to wear under my top because she said she could see i was uncomfortable during dinner.

I thought she was being thoughtful and said no, i was fine, it really didnt bother me. She then said 'well it may not bother you, but it bothers us. We dont really want to be looking at that whilst eating - not like you to flaunt it in our faces Ella. You really should think of covering it up. You know we love you, just want everyone, including you to feel comfortable '

I went back into the cubicle and bawled my eyes out, i felt so crap.

Went back to the restaurant but could not make eye contact with anyone and made an excuse to leave as soon as the meal was over.

DH kept asking if i was okay and when i told him he thinks i took it the wrong way and it was concern for me that prompted the loo talk. But it wasnt, i know that. He says if he thought for one minute our friends were that shallow he would firstly tell them what shits they were then never speak to them again, but he cant believe there was any malice in it. But there was. WHY would anyone, let alone a 'friend' tell me to cover up my battle scars?

Or have i really got it wrong?

I fluctuate between being embarrassed, angry and hurt and have lost the plot as to which is the appropriate emotion.

Help me sort this out please.

OP posts:
Nquartz · 17/01/2017 21:15

Duck me, I don't understand how that email is meant to be an apology!
If anything the different skin tones look like a fake tan fail, and who would notice that in a restaurant on a Friday night.
So sorry you're friend has turned out to be a complete bellend, but good on your DH for sticking up for you.

Ohdearducks · 17/01/2017 21:16

And your 'ugly' scar is anything but, I wouldn't bat an eyelid if I saw that! What the fuck is their problem?

Nquartz · 17/01/2017 21:16

*your
Duh

Willow2016 · 17/01/2017 21:17

Ella
OMFG that woman is completely delusional! How on earth is that supposed to make you feel better? 'the cancer card' 'playing the victim' THEY rounded on you cos your top slipped? wtaf?

A bit of pale skin....I cannot comprehend it at all it goes beyond anything I could imagine someone complaining about.

That wasnt an apology either, it was a pretend apology but really blaming YOU for being upset at their total shitness and brushing it aside by turning it all onto you not being reaasonable to their suggestion. Tell them to stuff it where the sun dont shine.
Now they are all in their OHs bad books and only YOU can fix it for them by forgiving them (pretending it doesnt matter)...jog on

But the one thing that still sticks out like a sore thumb...its all about 'me, me,me' (I think, X isnt talking to Y, Z isnt talking to ME, its a shame' yet again. Jeeze you are well rid of them, showing their true colour at last.

Well now you know you must be covered up at all times in case you offend some poor snowflakes sensibilities and ideals of what skin looks like. Tsk tsk.

Good on your lovely DH what a star, he is definately a keeper Smile

Figgygal · 17/01/2017 21:17

Your "friend" is a dick that email is maybe the worst part

CaraAspen · 17/01/2017 21:18

The top is lovely, OP. Smile

cowssheephens · 17/01/2017 21:18

What a twat OP! She is no friend. What an utter shit!

Your top looks lovely.

weebarra · 17/01/2017 21:19

Oh ffs. Cancer card?! I wish there was one that gave us free entry to things, or maybe cocktails.
That top is lovely and what a really neat recon you've had. Yes the skin is a different colour but what does that matter?
I was drinking prosecco with my friends on Saturday night and quite late on, I whipped my prostheses out so they could have a look and a feel. They've all seen my scars too.
I'm so sorry that your friends have been crap. What do you think you'll do now?

HarryPottersMagicWand · 17/01/2017 21:20

"do think it is emotional blackmail, using the cancer card and you have NEVER done that, you have always just got on with it, so it came as a bit of a shock to see you playing the victim."

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!!! 😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲

And from this whole thing, I was honestly expecting your scar to be lumpy, huge and purple (like my cousins scars on his neck). You can barely see it! It honestly looks fine! I am gobsmacked they were offended by that. I just can't get my head around it at all.

CaraAspen · 17/01/2017 21:20

Her apology is a lesson in how not to do it. Ignore her and then. Awfulness indeed. How does she imagine it feels to you?

CaraAspen · 17/01/2017 21:21

Ignore her and them...

sotiredbutworthit · 17/01/2017 21:23

That wasn't an apology! What a bitch! Screw her! Cancer card, playing the victim? She can f right off!! I don't blame your DH for being fuming. You look amazing by the way. Forget that close minded cowbag.

Filibustering · 17/01/2017 21:24

That email is, if anything, more insulting, insensitive, self-justifying and plain dense than the original 'intervention'. Essentially you've disrupted her friendship, turned people against her, and made her feel bad, all with your 'playing the victim.' I barely have words for that level of stupidity. I'm so sorry, OP. Quite apart from anything else, how depressing to think you've been lifelong friends with such a pillock.

Magzmarsh · 17/01/2017 21:25

That email is appalling, I have no words. Often on mn you see "show them this thread op" and I've always thought "how ridiculous, what would that achieve" but in this case I think it would work 😕

Nameynamechangeforthis · 17/01/2017 21:25

I'm speechless! Until you posted a picture what I was picturing was much much worse, and even if it had been it would still be fine.

It's a beautiful top, and you look lovely in it! I cannot fucking believe anyone would have a problem with what you were wearing.

As for her email, she must be fucking kidding! Has she ways been a massive bitch? What she is essentially saying is pipe down and stop making a fuss and stop waving your cancer about as it's all a bit inconvenient.

Is the email sender the same person who spoke to you in the toilet?

No nora person would even note there was anything different with your boob! I very much hope your friend hasnt made you feel self conscious because you shouldn't be

GinIsIn · 17/01/2017 21:26

'Playing the cancer card'?!??!!!!! She can fuck right off to the far side off fuck!!!!! And for the record, 1. your top looks lovely and 2. the scarring is absolutely nothing to hide at all, it's been very well done and is not even noticeable.

LaContessaDiPlump · 17/01/2017 21:26

Not an apology. How nasty Angry

Autumnchill · 17/01/2017 21:28

I don't normally post on long threads like this as I don't have anything to add to what has already been posted but this has genuinely left me 😳 especially after seeing the photos! I was expecting something much worse but how can you be offended by that scar, even more so when you know the person and they are suppose to be a close friend.

Might have a slight crush on your husband for just being so awesome!

WinterRose92 · 17/01/2017 21:30

ElllaKeat Wow, that would really upset me too! To me, it just seems so insensitive, the way it was said and the way she acted about it. You have been through so much, and your friends should know that more than anyone. That 'apology' e-mail is no apology. She goes on to offend and insult you even more by saying you were playing the cancer card! What the hell?! I don't want to tell you what to do, but I think if I were in your situation, I could have maybe, MAYBE forgiven them, but after that email, no. I hope you are okay and by the way, the top looks gorgeous and you should wear whatever the hell you want if you feel happy and confident in it. Flowers Take care xxxx

DartmoorDoughnut · 17/01/2017 21:30

Playing the cancer card?!! By wearing a top ... She's fucking delusional!

Aeroflotgirl · 17/01/2017 21:33

Ella your top looks wonderful, you look great in it. As for her half hearted apology, it wasent sincere, and had caveats attached to it. Playing tge cancer card, playing the victim comments, are a final,nail in the coffin for these friendships. Even if yiu did forgive them, it coukd never be back to the way it was, I think it woukd just fizzle out eventually.

What nasty pieces of work they are. Keep in touch with the dh. But the lot if them yiu coukd do without😡😡😡😡😢

Clutterbugsmum · 17/01/2017 21:33

I'm sorry you are having to deal with this on top of having cancer, and as for your scar I was expecting something more then your photo. If you hadn't pointed this out I wouldn't have even noticed it any way.

It's good that you have a good friend in the husband of one of these women.

You should send the E mailer the dictionary definition of the apology and tell her not to contact you again until she can give one, not this load of rubbish she has sent.

70ontheinside · 17/01/2017 21:35

As a scarred person myself: what I can see of you in those pics looks great. Your friends are idiots, but maybe, hopefully they have learned their lesson?

Even the idea that people would have to hide their "offensive" battle scars leaves me speechless!

ElllaKeat · 17/01/2017 21:36

I might be a little bit in love with you all 😊

I must be honest and say that my boob is lumpy, it is not as neat as it looks on the pic, there is definite dimpling, but sod it!

Forgot to say, the best line in DHs mail was that i was still alive and kicking, they were merely breathing 😄😄

He is a total pain in the bum most of the time, but every now and then.......

OP posts:
londonrach · 17/01/2017 21:38

I think i need glasses...i couldnt see much when the top was down. Your friends dont sound nice. Is this recent. My dm had had breast cancer. Her scar is her badge of honour that she survived. Shes proud of it and rightly so.

Op distance yourself from these people. Glad dh is supporting you x