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To ditch lifelong friends, or am i being 'touchy'? Long, sorry!

547 replies

ElllaKeat · 16/01/2017 18:45

This story has been festering with me for a couple of days now, so sorry for the long tale, but need proper feedback.

Backstory is i have a prominent and ugly mastectomy scar. Usually it is covered, but to be honest it does not bother ne if it is revealed, i dont flaunt it, but do not feel embarrassed if it is visible. It is just part of me and after 2 seperate mastectomies, chemotherapy, radiotherapy and delayed reconstructions, i am just happy to be healthy and still alive!

Me and DH have 6 lifelong friends - three married coupes. We have known them all for over thirty years and our social lives mainly involve them. We meet up roughly once a month, for everyones birthday, at Christmas etc. We have always gotten on well, had the usual niggles with each other, but as a crowd, we have all been accepting of each others quirks.

On Friday it was my birthday. We all got together for a meal on Friday night and i wore a new top that i loved. Slightly lower cut than normal, it still covered my scar.......until it kept slipping down had a bloody life of its own. If and when i noticed, i hitched my top up again and thought nothing more of it. DH and i went to the bar whilst waiting for the starters to be served to organise some bubbly and when we came back the atmosphere had changed, i knew something was not right. Things just felt a bit off.

Chatting was fine, on the surface, everything seemed okay, but i just had a feeling that something was wrong.

Anyway, after main course, i nipped to the loo and the woman i would consider my closest friend followed me in. She offered me a clean vest top she had in her gym bag in her car, to wear under my top because she said she could see i was uncomfortable during dinner.

I thought she was being thoughtful and said no, i was fine, it really didnt bother me. She then said 'well it may not bother you, but it bothers us. We dont really want to be looking at that whilst eating - not like you to flaunt it in our faces Ella. You really should think of covering it up. You know we love you, just want everyone, including you to feel comfortable '

I went back into the cubicle and bawled my eyes out, i felt so crap.

Went back to the restaurant but could not make eye contact with anyone and made an excuse to leave as soon as the meal was over.

DH kept asking if i was okay and when i told him he thinks i took it the wrong way and it was concern for me that prompted the loo talk. But it wasnt, i know that. He says if he thought for one minute our friends were that shallow he would firstly tell them what shits they were then never speak to them again, but he cant believe there was any malice in it. But there was. WHY would anyone, let alone a 'friend' tell me to cover up my battle scars?

Or have i really got it wrong?

I fluctuate between being embarrassed, angry and hurt and have lost the plot as to which is the appropriate emotion.

Help me sort this out please.

OP posts:
thetemptationofchocolate · 17/01/2017 10:00

I don't see anyone here who thinks you are being touchy.

This is not the time for dignified restraint - in your shoes I'd be inclined to write each of these people a letter, telling them exactly how horrible they have been and cut them off without a qualm.

RandomMcRandomface · 17/01/2017 10:01

I hope you feel better OP, how awful

8misskitty8 · 17/01/2017 10:21

Good god, what a shower of shits.
'Attention seeking ' cause you showed a bit of breast ? Bet they had tops on showing the same amount of breast as you.

What do they suggest you wear ? A polo neck ?

Good on that man sticking up for you. Sadly if it was me I'd never talk to the lot of them again and I'd let other mutual friends know why. Utter cows.

Stonewash · 17/01/2017 11:11

"Showcasing"? ShockAngry

Flowers
yellowfrog · 17/01/2017 12:45

Utter utter bastards. I can't find enough rude words for them. Rest assured though that their attitude is in no way reflective of what you look like - their horrible ugly attitude reflects what the insides of their souls look like. The woman's husband said you look gorgeous and he's right.

I wish i could give you a big un-mumsnetty hug.

xStefx · 17/01/2017 12:55

Im so sorry op. I have one question for your rude friends! If the scar was on your face or neck (or another visible place) would that meant you would have to cover it too?

Ive noticed, its really strange how people get almost jealous when someone is ill. Not jealous of the illness itself but of the attention it brings. Im explaining this the wrong way but when I had an ectopic in july which resulted in 3 nasty scars on my stomach a pregnant friend actually had the cheek to say because it was an early loss " well it isn't like you have really lost a baby is it" before that id considered her a real friend. I was devastated, she had no idea what it was like to loose a baby. Im glad your on the mend OP

Atenco · 17/01/2017 14:04

I'm so sorry, OP.

Unfortunately not all friends are for life, but at least you don't have to waste any more precious time on this shower of losers.

NanooCov · 17/01/2017 14:07

Utter utter bastards. Totally unforgivable. But hurrah for your OH. "Showcasing" had my blood boiling. Fuckers.

CommunionHelp · 17/01/2017 14:16

I echo everything nice thing that's been said about your DH, I also have some respect the nice guy who told his wife that she had behaved appallingly.

I"m so, so sorry, OP. Horrible experience for you both and I imagine you're still shaking.

You'll be okay soon, the dust will settle. Whoever was involved in this horrendous treatment of you is an absolute disgrace, and would
never earn my friendship again.

TheSnorkMaidenReturns · 17/01/2017 14:41

I'm so sorry Ella. Bastards.

cheekybean · 17/01/2017 14:57

A close friend of mine had a double mascetomy. Ive seen her scars. I dont care about them. Im just damn glad shes still here. Her scars show how brave she is.

OP it seems your friends are gits and you are better off without them. You dh sounds like a gem and he is the only best friend you really need. I wouldnt be without mine but dont tell him that!

Well done to friends dh for standing up to his wife. Bet she feels a right bag now!

Well done on your all clear,

minipie · 17/01/2017 15:07

Christ on a bike Angry

I guess at least because of the loo conversation you found out what they are really like, rather than the discussion having been behind your back and you never finding out. Mini silver lining.

DartmoorDoughnut · 17/01/2017 15:20

How fucking dare they Angry Angry

Glad your DH and the other DH stood up for you against the others frankly disgusting attitudes and actions Flowers

Mrskeats · 17/01/2017 15:46

The word 'showcasing' was the one that did it for me.
What on earth could they mean by that? As if you were deliberately showing your scars to make them uncomfortable or something.
They are not nice people I'm afraid. Good on your DH for putting them in their place though.
People never cease to amaze me and not in a good way.

Grapeeatingweirdo · 17/01/2017 16:00

What bastards OP. I'm so upset for you, you did nothing wrong.

birdladyfromhomealone · 17/01/2017 16:04

I am so upset reading this Ella,
I lost my eye due to a brain tumour, no one has ever seen the horrific scars behind my prosthetic eye except for my DH.
But thats my problem I dont show it, however I do tell people what happened to me.
I never heard from so called friends when I was having treatment.
If you were me they wouldnt be my friends any more.

Therealloislane · 17/01/2017 16:24

Oh Ella.

What a shock for you.

I'm so sorry.

My sister has had a mastectomy, she has scars on her head from a brain tumour & is currently immobile due to spinal cancer - she's beautiful. She the strongest, bravest, most beautiful woman I know. And to your dh & family you are too.

It's your "friends" loss.

Head up high beautiful Ella, your scars will never be as ugly as your "friends" outlook.

Hissy · 17/01/2017 16:47

The initial comments were bad, the showcasing remark is just vile.

It's however not the ugliest thing in all this. That is the reaction to being questioned on it.

Any normal person would realise that they had hurt you and back track like shit and apologise, NOT add further poison to the pot ffs!

I'm so sorry that you had to find out how truly awful these "friends" are.

Ampersand23 · 17/01/2017 16:56

Have a look at this excellent link, this is why YANBU, it's called the Ring Theory.
articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/07/opinion/la-oe-0407-silk-ring-theory-20130407

Good luck OP. I recently ditched a friend of 32 years, it sucked but her frequently nasty comments gave me no choice.

(And for anyone suffering from sore and painful scars, rosa mosqueta oil is brilliant btw)

TitaniasCloset · 17/01/2017 16:58

Big star for Ella's dh Star

You will find better friends, I think these ladies are jealous of you, which just confirms to me you are as amazing as we all think you are.

SapphireStrange · 17/01/2017 17:29

YANBU. I can't imagine anyone I consider a friend saying anything like that about me if I had a scar that was being occasionally partially revealed. Or them going into a huddle and agreeing that one of my friends would 'have a quick word' about it. Hmm

Assuming the man your DH spoke to wasn't paraphrasing, saying you were 'attention seeking' and that it looked 'bloody awful' is really hurtful and offensive.

It's tough if they're really old friends; I know that's valuable. How would you feel about talking to one or all of the group about it, honestly, and letting them know how you feel about it?

marylennoxwasanaspie · 17/01/2017 17:31

Titania they were (as my DB once put it) no ladies. OP, I'd have let rip at the lot of them too. Flowers

trinitybleu · 17/01/2017 17:32

What utter cunts - I am agog. Good on your DH and the other DH for pulling his wife up on being such a bitch.

Even if it were inflammed, weeping, or you really were showcasing it, your real friends would say nothing and simply support you. It may be 30 years of friendship, but I think you're better off without most of them. Just invite the husbands next time (if they all reacted the same way as the original one)

exaltedwombat · 17/01/2017 17:32

They couldn't cope. You couldn't cope with them not coping. Unfortunately even many people who DO cope in an acceptable way, still WILL be 'coping', they'll find it hard to take in their stride. Maybe just best to treat the scar the same way you would a nipple. You don't need to spend your life as a Shining Example. You probably found a way to deal with friends who voted Brexit or opposed gay marriage. Use the same technique.

SapphireStrange · 17/01/2017 17:44

Maybe just best to treat the scar the same way you would a nipple.

Seriously?

It's not an erogenous zone. What if it was on a part of the body more commonly exposed, like a hand or forearm, or face? Would you expect the OP to trowel on make-up for those who can't 'cope' with it?

Are you one of the 'friends'?