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To ditch lifelong friends, or am i being 'touchy'? Long, sorry!

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ElllaKeat · 16/01/2017 18:45

This story has been festering with me for a couple of days now, so sorry for the long tale, but need proper feedback.

Backstory is i have a prominent and ugly mastectomy scar. Usually it is covered, but to be honest it does not bother ne if it is revealed, i dont flaunt it, but do not feel embarrassed if it is visible. It is just part of me and after 2 seperate mastectomies, chemotherapy, radiotherapy and delayed reconstructions, i am just happy to be healthy and still alive!

Me and DH have 6 lifelong friends - three married coupes. We have known them all for over thirty years and our social lives mainly involve them. We meet up roughly once a month, for everyones birthday, at Christmas etc. We have always gotten on well, had the usual niggles with each other, but as a crowd, we have all been accepting of each others quirks.

On Friday it was my birthday. We all got together for a meal on Friday night and i wore a new top that i loved. Slightly lower cut than normal, it still covered my scar.......until it kept slipping down had a bloody life of its own. If and when i noticed, i hitched my top up again and thought nothing more of it. DH and i went to the bar whilst waiting for the starters to be served to organise some bubbly and when we came back the atmosphere had changed, i knew something was not right. Things just felt a bit off.

Chatting was fine, on the surface, everything seemed okay, but i just had a feeling that something was wrong.

Anyway, after main course, i nipped to the loo and the woman i would consider my closest friend followed me in. She offered me a clean vest top she had in her gym bag in her car, to wear under my top because she said she could see i was uncomfortable during dinner.

I thought she was being thoughtful and said no, i was fine, it really didnt bother me. She then said 'well it may not bother you, but it bothers us. We dont really want to be looking at that whilst eating - not like you to flaunt it in our faces Ella. You really should think of covering it up. You know we love you, just want everyone, including you to feel comfortable '

I went back into the cubicle and bawled my eyes out, i felt so crap.

Went back to the restaurant but could not make eye contact with anyone and made an excuse to leave as soon as the meal was over.

DH kept asking if i was okay and when i told him he thinks i took it the wrong way and it was concern for me that prompted the loo talk. But it wasnt, i know that. He says if he thought for one minute our friends were that shallow he would firstly tell them what shits they were then never speak to them again, but he cant believe there was any malice in it. But there was. WHY would anyone, let alone a 'friend' tell me to cover up my battle scars?

Or have i really got it wrong?

I fluctuate between being embarrassed, angry and hurt and have lost the plot as to which is the appropriate emotion.

Help me sort this out please.

OP posts:
GTS · 17/01/2017 07:29

Wowsers, that is quite the update! I'm glad your husband has defended you after such appalling behaviour from these people. I'm wondering if after your reconstruction your boobs actually look way better than theirs ever will, and there may have been a bit of jealousy? Either way, it's safe to say that you are better off without these people in your life. Lick your wounds and move on. Congratulations on the all clear, make 2017 all about surrounding yourself with people who love and respect you. Xx

Megatherium · 17/01/2017 07:41

What I don't understand is - on earth did they think was going to happen after they so kindly had a word with you in the Ladies? Did they seriously think you would gratefully accept the vest offer and come back wearing it and looking suitably chastened about having made them feel uncomfortable, without being in any way upset at all?

CMOTDibbler · 17/01/2017 07:41

After that update, all I can say is that you are well rid of them out of your life. Anyone who would gossip about you at the table and proclaim that showing a scar is attention seeking isn't worth knowing imo. Bastards. Am absolutely livid on your behalf, and it just goes to show how shallow and mean some people are

Bedsheets4knickers · 17/01/2017 07:52

Just read update , I'm sorry op , I didn't think friends would be so cruel but clearly they are not your friends .

Deathraystare · 17/01/2017 08:10

Sorry it ended like this but these people are not good friends. Good friends are supportive and would be so damn proud of you. If they got upset on your behalf because other people were looking and commenting, then that would be fair enough. I trust these bitches live in 'perfect world' where everything is bland and boring.

There are better people out there. A bug 'yay' to the guy who did not follow the 'sheep'.

DirtyDancing · 17/01/2017 08:10

I know this has been replied to multiple times but I'm so angry on your behalf I have to reply.

Not all scars can be covered up, nor should they have to. I have a large scar across my collar bone, and unless people expect me to wear a polo neck come rain or shine, they are seeing that scar.

How fucking dare anyone to tell you to cover up a scar that is part of your body and your beauty.

ChuckSnowballs · 17/01/2017 08:15

That really is fucking shocking. What utter utter cunts.

RhiWrites · 17/01/2017 08:38

Wow. I can't believe that anyone would call OP attention seeking because they glimpsed the edge of her scar. That's... mind boggling.

OP I think you're well shot of them. What are you going to do though about the couple with the nice husband and the mean wife?

coffeetasteslikeshit · 17/01/2017 08:41

Flowers OP.

I told a friend of mine yesterday that she will find out who her real friends are now that she can't drive for 6 weeks. I think this was your moment of truth. My advice is to look for some nicer friends, they are out there.

Bluntness100 · 17/01/2017 08:44

I'm really shocked at that too, I'm actually quite horrified adults could behave like that never mind ones who were supposed to be friends.

For once I don't even know what to say.😞

Sickofthisnow · 17/01/2017 08:46

I just don't understand this. I haven't I assume! met anyone who would even think that it's just illogical and.... Odd. What would they do if one of their friends was an amputee etc? I seriously don't get it. Do you think any of the others will be in touch to apologise?

Blu · 17/01/2017 08:48

Ella, it is brilliant that your DH ripped into them. The 'attention seeking' is outrageous. What the hell got into them?

Just tragic that you have healed from a serious illness but your friends have behaved in a way that will leave different scars.

Of course you looked gorgeous.

And you have a DH at your back.

So pleased you got your 'all clear'. Things like trauma do have a 'sheep from goats' effect on friendships. You find out who really is who.

Look to the future.

T1mum3 · 17/01/2017 08:55

Some people are revolting. I'm so sorry this happened to you, and that your "friends" have chosen to display the ugliness inside of them. Flowers

Blu · 17/01/2017 09:05

They have sucked up a totally misogynistic view if the world, too. Women must have perfect breasts or cover up. I bet they wouldn't have despatched some bloke to the loo to 'have a word ' with a guy whose short sleeves revealed scars resulting from army service, for example.

Sexist, disablist idiots.

They need to sort themselves out. I hope the supportive DH friend has his say with them.

EatsShitAndLeaves · 17/01/2017 09:24

Good on your DH.

I hope that these people will reflect on their actions.

They ought to feel utterly ashamed of themselves.

At least the friend your DH initially spoke to was nice and better still took up the issue with his own wife.

FlowersFlowersFlowers

mummyto2monkeys · 17/01/2017 09:31

Ella I am so sorry that you have been treated this way by those narcissistic witches! I bet you looked amazing!!
I am so glad your husband and his friend laid into them! Nasty witches!!! I also would not rule out them having planned this, especially if your so called friend already had the top with her! They wanted to pull you down a peg or two and did just that! What awful excuses for human beings! Unfortunately when times are hard you find out who your true friends are. My guess is that they would have shown their true colours during your treatment, if you had let them in.

A belated Happy Birthday! And Flowers for your amazing news and discharge from your oncologist! You don't need selfish, vindictive people in your life! The people that truly matter were there for you throughout your treatment, your husband had every right to react with such fury! He watched the woman he loved fight a battle that filled him with terror! I bet he is so proud of you when he looks at you and your scars! Please don't cry another tear for these horrible women, they are not worthy of your tears!

Lasthurrah · 17/01/2017 09:35

God that is so vile of them. Glad the other husband ticked them off too so they are left in no doubt of their behaviour being horrendous.

Aeroflotgirl · 17/01/2017 09:40

I agree with mummy, what sort of vile individuals think that this behaviour is ok, its ok to be nasty to someone who has survived cancer, or any illness or disability. Those scars are because you came through your battle, those are the scars that saved your life, that your here today. They have the audacity to treat you like that. Sorry they were not the friends you thought they were.

DoItTooJulia · 17/01/2017 09:45

What's worse is that when they were called out on their crappy behaviour they didn't go 'oh god, yes, it does seem insensitive and I'm/we're So sorry to have upset Ella. Shit. I hope Ella is ok'

Not such good friends after all.

Flowers and top marks to EllaDH for having your back

Aworldofmyown · 17/01/2017 09:48

Oh you poor thing. I wonder if they would say the same to you if the scar was on your face. What horrible friends and to say you were "attention seeking" Shock

It must be really devastating for you both, so sorry.

Megatherium · 17/01/2017 09:48

I suspect you may find that one of them initiated this and the others just followed like sheep. It will be interesting to see if any of them contact you to apologise.

CaraAspen · 17/01/2017 09:52

Your husband did the right thing and I applaud him for it. There is no way that sort of despicable behaviour could be ignored and there are no excuses.

EatsShitAndLeaves · 17/01/2017 09:56

What I find as shocking as the initial behaviour is the response to your DH's call.

Surely on reflection and knowing you had really upset a long term friend you would consider your actions and feel dreadful that you had caused such distress?

Rather it appears they've done the opposite and gone on the attack with "things that can't be unsaid".

I'm really at a loss about how these people can look in the mirror. They may not be physically scarred but my goodness their hearts and minds are warped beyond belief.

To ditch lifelong friends, or am i being 'touchy'? Long, sorry!
Thefitfatty · 17/01/2017 09:56

This is horrid! I'm pretty squeamish about scars (can't even look at my own c-section scar)! But I would never phrase it like they did or say anything at all! Sorry for you OP. :(

GeekLove · 17/01/2017 09:58

I wonder if there were things in the past they might have done but which you would have dismissed as a 'one off' but which now shows up more so in context.
Still sometimes in live you end up having to dump the rubbish and often at an unexpected time. At least your DH is a real DH who is a comrade and ally.