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To be fed up of people thinking it is really easy for me to be slim?

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Pomegranatesaremessy · 11/01/2017 11:38

Yes I am slim but I am fed up of the comments I get around me. People saying it is ok for you, you are slim. You just don't put weight on easily like I do, you can eat what you want etc

Well no I can't eat whatever I want. I am careful and that is the reason I am slim. I rarely eat cakes, unhealthy foods. If I do eat a slice of cake people pressurise me to have more because it doesn't matter apparently.

I feel like I am belittled and I can't know what it is like to be overweight. Well yes I can because I was overweight and lost it all and am determined to keep slim now.

I wouldn't criticise anyone who was overweight to criticise their food choices but people think it is ok to make comments to slim people.

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Cantusethatname · 11/01/2017 13:26

It's like not smoking - I haven't smoked for many years and not smoking is not an effort or a hardship. I am just a non smoker. It's the same with puddings/chips/doughnuts - I just don't eat them and it's not a hardship or a denial so just as I wouldn't expect someone to insist I had a cigarette, it's a personal choice what you eat. Does this make sense?

FurryLittleTwerp · 11/01/2017 13:36

I'm in my 50s & slim as I always have been & was discussing the fact I think I eat quite a lot really with my mum, as I can put away larger portions at mealtimes than most women I know of my age.

"But you're very disciplined," she said, "You hardly ever have seconds, usually refuse puddings or leave half of it & don't often eat between meals" & it's true - I hadn't thought about it. - I certainly don't feel I'm depriving myself.

What she (as a compulsive snacker & nibbler who struggles to decline any offer of any kind of food) sees as "discipline", I just see as my usual way of eating.

Earlgreywithmilk · 11/01/2017 13:44

I really wish I had your problem op!
Maybe look on it as the people who make these comments to you probably struggle with their own weight and are slightly envious of your slimness, then try to kid themselves that you took some magic pill and it wasn't down to hard work.
No need for you to get upset about it, I suspect they think they are complimenting you.

Pomegranatesaremessy · 11/01/2017 13:48

I'm always puzzled when people say "I am not naturally slim"

All human beings are naturally slim

It's being fat that's unnatural

Not true. There has been research and it is to do with intestinal bacteria apparently. They determine whether we are lean or obese. Transplants of this bacteria from lean people to obese people has assisted with weight loss in early studies.

So some people can be naturally slim - I am not one of them!

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TheStoic · 11/01/2017 13:48

The last time someone commented on my weight and asked me what my 'secret' was, I told them the truth: 'Divorce and chronic stress.'

I guarantee they did not bring the subject up again. Grin

Pomegranatesaremessy · 11/01/2017 13:50

Thank you earlgreywithmilk Smile

I have had to really cut down my portions, have a huge salad every night, make my lunch really tiny and exercise as much as I can. It really is a constant effort but definitely worth it

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AntiqueSinger · 11/01/2017 13:55

Up until I hit 34, I was incredibly slim, and I didn't have to do anything to maintain that slimness. I could eat whatever I wanted and not put on a pound. This despite being unknowingly hypothyroid for years. I could happily (and frequently did) order a large deep pan pizza from Pizza Hut and stuff my face and finish the entire lot and be the same weight at the end of the week. I never jogged, went to the gym, or excercised. In my 20's I would order 3 mini fresh cream gateaus from my local bakery a day and scoff them without repercussions. I would winge about being skinny, in fact I did go to the doctor at 20 to complain that I couldn't put on weight. Even pregnancy didn't help. I hated my figure (god I wish I had it back!) And wanted curves. I really wanted to be hour glass.

Naturally other people who struggled had little sympathy, and I don't blame them, and never resented the 'its ok for you...' comments, cause it was really.

Thyroid and metabolism have gone completely kuput now and I have to work just to keep it at around a 14. Of course I'm still wingeing. Never happySmile

HunterofStars · 11/01/2017 13:59

I've gone down from a size 22 to a 16 over the last 7 years on and off. I remember at work during the Queen's diamond jubilee and everyone had brought cake in. I refused to eat some and brought in a fruit platter for myself instead and everyone said I was weird for choosing fruit over cake Hmm. I still have another 2 stone to go and I was saying to my brother about my meal plans and he said well you've got to have stuff you like too, chocolate, cake,etc. I said that I have no self control when it comes to it so will be cutting them out and only having them rarely.

Lumberries · 11/01/2017 14:59

Just going to add my 18st 3lb 5ft 5 opinion here..

I find it fascinating that we all automatically assumed the women in OP's original post were all overweight. No one said this, this was not confirmed and yet we assumed it. Why?

Simple fact of the matter is that women use weight to pitch themselves against each other. It's become tribal and there's fault on both sides for this. Overweight women feel bullied and victimised by society at large and feel that people they perceive as slim don't understand their weight gain; and slim women feel their efforts are written off as luck and that they have a right to feel proud that is cowed by overweight people writing this off as "bragging". Who is it that's doing the bullying and making both tribes feel this way if not just other women?? We are all responsible for this problem.

Just stop it.

Stop classifying yourself as overweight or slim and just recognize that both these categories are temporary states, not life affirming personality traits. If a slim person eats more, they become an overweight person. Equally, if an overweight person eats less and moves more, they will eventually become a slim person. That's not up for debate, that's a well evidenced and completely scientifically accepted fact. I've heard people say that eat less and move more is just a theory.. to those people: So is gravity, so float the fuck away. You don't help anyone by denying this.

We are all both and neither fat or thin, i refer to this as Schrodinger's obesity Grin

The reasons WHY we are obese, overweight, healthy or underweight are all relevant and THIS is where the distinction between luck and effort is made. There's no such thing as naturally skinny or naturally obese. However, the way we think, feel and consume our food all have an impact on our weight and it's this that some people are blessed with and others are not. The habits we form around food are largely under researched until very recently and only now are scientists actually focusing on the psychology of obesity rather than the physicality.

The good news is absolutely every body (physically and mentally differently-abled bodies aside) is capable of reaching and maintaining a healthy weight. The difficulty of this largely depends on the individual and this is why we see some people very successfully lose weight and some people try and fail for years. It has absolutely nothing to do with metabolism or anything else. It's to do with resolve, self control and motivation. You could have a lightening fast metabolism but if you can only diet for a few days before throwing in the towel and eating an entire pizza (just me? Blush), no metabolism in the world is going to keep you slim long term. Equally, your metabolism could be sluggish but if you consistently eat fewer calories than you expend, you'll lose weight.

I'm currently very overweight (morbidly obese I think?) and I've never been lower than the obese category in my life. My mother put me on my first diet (slimfast shakes.. it was the 90's Blush) when I was 7 years old. My medical history shows I was declared too fat at 3 years old and every health check since records me at obese or above. I have been on some form of diet since I was 7 and yet gained a stone a year consistently until I was 18 (ish).

I'm lucky.

I'm lucky because I currently have no obesity related health concerns and I've recently discovered my will power (it was hiding underneath by belly fat, who knew??). I've begun eating correctly and exercising regularly. Reliably I'm dropping the weight now at a rate of around 3.5lbs per week.

The change for me happened when I gave up telling myself my obesity was the result of genes or luck and actually accepted all that I've stated above. As you can see, I did a lot of thinking. I wrote most of it down (I've had CBT for anxiety before)and most importantly, I stopped thinking of myself as a fat woman. I'm not a fat woman, I'm a woman. That's it. That's all there is.

OP, well done on your weight loss, but don't lose sight of why you went through that and did it. Find your reasons again and revisit them, you'll find it easier to ignore people once you realise you're now a healthy and balanced individual, and no daft comment from an insensitive person can take that away. FWIW, I've been called all sorts throughout my life but since my day of thinking (this is what I call the day I made the mental change I needed), none of it has hurt at all because I just feel so sorry for people who feel the need to belong to a tribe so strongly that they base their self worth on what they weigh.

Let go of that and you'll feel a lot better :)

Sorry for the essay Blush

Bluntness100 · 11/01/2017 15:17

Lumberrries, that's a really good post and made interesting reading, I agree with lots of uour points.

I think the key to what you're saying is it's about personal responsibility. Taking responsibility for the fact we are whatever we are, be it over weight, healthy weight, under weight, it's a choice we make through our actions and we alone are responsible for those actions and choices. Note excluding when there is medical issues at play!

Lumberries · 11/01/2017 15:21

Bluntness100 exactly, it is about personal responsibility and not using your weight/ healthy lifestyle as a fundamental building block of your personality.

Have you seen Inside Out? I think it's a brilliant way to illustrate the point. Previously, I would have had "obesity island" as part of my personality. It was something that I knew I was. Now though I recognize that it's not who I am, it's WHAT I am and it's temporary :)

Pomegranatesaremessy · 11/01/2017 15:22

I find it fascinating that we all automatically assumed the women in OP's original post were all overweight. No one said this, this was not confirmed and yet we assumed it. Why?

They were all overweight. No slim women commented on my food

that is cowed by overweight people writing this off as "bragging

Like people saying this post is a stealth boast or saying I should wear a badge saying 'go me' Grin

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Lumberries · 11/01/2017 15:27

Pomegranatesaremessy my whole point is the weight of the women is completely irrelevant, it doesnt matter.

There's no need to categorize yourself or anyone else based on your weight, we're all women not fat women or thin women.

Good luck to you OP, but please take my advice and go back and have a look at why you lost weight in the first place and how you felt before you did, it will make you happier :)

Pomegranatesaremessy · 11/01/2017 15:30

There's no need to categorize yourself or anyone else based on your weight, we're all women not fat women or thin women

Sometimes it is other people who do that. I still don't think of myself as slim but other people say I am

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PrettyLittleGuinea · 11/01/2017 15:30

YANBU, OP, that is awful and rude of people to make assumptions based on someone's weight or shape. I myself, as a heavy person find I get the opposite "Why don't you just go on a diet /stop eating etc" from people who don't understand my health issues. I think life would be better if we all stopped focusing on how much people weigh/what dress size they wear!

Every1lovesPatsy · 11/01/2017 15:31

I don't think this is a stealth boast...I think it is a stealth whinge/martyred once fat now slimmed down person post.

Just tell them all to flip off and stop commenting on your food choices. Tell them to stop obsessing about other people's weight/food/bodies and just focus on themselves.

People only engage in that tripe if you give them the airspace...or just ignore...you are way too invested in all that shite.

PrettyLittleGuinea · 11/01/2017 15:32

Also, OP, by saying it is easy for you those people are invalidating (probably unintentionally, to be fair) your hard work in keeping slim. I would be annoyed too

Bluntness100 · 11/01/2017 15:33

I just think it's an interesting discussion that gets down to mind set. 😃

Pomegranatesaremessy · 11/01/2017 15:37

People only engage in that tripe if you give them the airspace...or just ignore...you are way too invested in all that shite

I don't give them airspace. It is common for people to comment on other peoples food in offices. I am not over invested. I don't even like this sort of talk. It doesn't matter what people eat but I do get fed up of people's comments.

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Pomegranatesaremessy · 11/01/2017 15:38

"Why don't you just go on a diet /stop eating etc" from people who don't understand my health issues

That is seriously annoying too. People think others can just go on a diet immediately and that will solve everything. PrettyLittleGuinea Flowers

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SpartacusWoman · 11/01/2017 16:52

I hate talking about weight with anyone other than my close family.
I've always been slim but would hate whenever anyone asked me how, I genuinely did eat whatever I wanted, whenever I wanted without much excercise, if I said that as answer they'd imply I must be lying.

Last few years has seen my weight drop a lot to underweight and in now a uk 2/4, comments have been much worse and often rude, I never ever bring weight up and try to dip out when conversations go that way, when They say I'm lucky and they wish they could be ill too, I know they are trying to compliment me and I laugh that stuff off mostly, I'll also laugh off "skeletor" jokes, but eating out with extended family is the worse as someone will always comment on what I've ordered, if I don't have three courses I'm told i need fattening up, if I do have three courses then I'm accused of throwing it up, last time I was out I had three courses of utter crap because that's what I wanted, half way through I needed a wee but I actually didn't go because I know I'd have been laughed at and sil would have followed me. I also couldn't say I was stuffed like the others do as they'd take the piss then too. On the few occasions I've asked them to pack it in, I'm told I'm uptight and to have a cake. I actually avoid eating out altogether now.

Strangers have commented on food in my basket, waitresses have laughed when they've given DH my steak and me the salad and made comments about how much is or isn't left on my plate and it does hurt and it does make feel shit about myself.

I know overweight people get shit too, it doesn't make some of the shit underweight or slim people get ok, and just like some conditions and medication cause weight gain, it can also cause weight loss. It's very rare I complain about getting laughed at for my weight because I'm told that it's worse for overweight people.

Nobody should be getting rude comments at all imo

monkeymamma · 11/01/2017 17:40

Yanbu I guess, although I do think there's a middle ground between 'denies self everything' and being overweight. In fact there is a pretty big middle ground between overweight and slim. I always feel I'm not as slim as I can be (usually towards the 12 end of 10-12) but my BMI is healthy. I'd rather be here, with plenty of exercise and yummy, nourishing food plus the odd cake or chocolate, than in some weirdly thin place where I'm constantly obsessing over food. There was a young lad on First Dates last season I think, he had been overweight then slimmed down and toned up to extreme. He looked great but he couldn't stop talking about food and staring in the weirdest way at his date's every mouthful, it clearly made her uncomfortable. It made me uncomfortable and I wasn't even there!
In a nutshell I just think people should realise that commenting on another person's size or weight is just not on, regardless whether they're fat or thin. Same as everyone should realise not to assume pregnancy if someone has a bit of a tum on them and people should learn not to ask women about their reproductive plans (got married recently? excellent. So when are you having a baby? Just had a baby? Great - when are you having another? Got two kids - fantastic. Do you want more? ARGHHHHHHH). Anyhow. People are just fucking rude sometimes.

GrandmaGotRunOverByAReindeer · 11/01/2017 17:53

When i was fat I thought thin people had it easy, now I'm thin I realise how much easier it was to be fat.

Janey50 · 11/01/2017 18:04

Personally,I rarely believe that a slim person is effortlessly slim. Many times I I have heard slim/skinny people say that they 'eat like a horse' or that they 'never stop eating'. It usually turns out to be completely untrue. They certainly don't eat like a horse,nor do they eat constantly. In their mind,they think they do. But in reality,they eat no more than average. I have only ever known one person who stayed 'effortlessly slim' despite eating loads. It was a friend of my DD's,back in the late 90s. She and my DD worked out that she ate,on average,about 3,500 -4000 calories per day,most days. Yet she remained at 9 stone,and was 5 feet 8 inches tall. Envy

icy121 · 11/01/2017 18:17

I'm slim cos I eat smaller portions that bigger people. Same shit, just less.

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