To say no to courier.

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Amazon courier just asked to use the loo. I was alone in the house with a baby. I said no and immediately dropped a note to Amazon to say I wasn't impressed that it made me feel uncomfortable.

I feel a bit bad now...remind me that I did the right thing please?!

Some of you need to the look in the mirror - bullying is disgusting in any form and some of your posts are far worse than anything op did

Yes, you are so right, mrtumblesmistress - answering perfectly politely on an AIBU thread is so, so much worse than arranging three unwarranted complaints to a low-waged worker's employer, especially when that employer is notorious for sacking people left right and centre for almost any nebulous reason at all. It's amazing we can live with ourselves, really.

Bananabread you clearly don't know anything about Amazon or their hiring practices if you think what you have just posted has any relation to the reality of how they operate their business.

The worse thing is the poor guy probably thought the op looked like a nice lady who would let him use the loo, totally unaware she was one of a tiny percentage of the population who would bring a shit storm on his head and formally complain to his employer about him for even asking, but also have her neighbour complain.

And for those saying Amazon won't fire him, once a complaint is received about a driver uou don't see them again and in addition the media on this and driver interviews say otherwise. Educate yourselves please.

No one complains not thinking it will get the person into trouble, no one. The op knew what she was doing, maybe not that he would probably lose his job, but she knew enough that complaining about an employee is never a positive for the employee. Ever. She then went and watched CCTV and had the neighbour complain too, even after she'd been told on this thread he may get fired.

Fairly nasty behaviour for just asking to use your loo and politely accepting the no. No?

You have hit the nail on the head Bluntness100.....Op if you are still reading this thread you are a nasty piece of work.

Exactly, blunteness.

The OP sounds really awful
If I was home alone with DD I would have said no. If somebody else was home I would have let him use the loo.
So, I don't think asking this was weird of him at all, at our house he probably would have had an 80% chance to get a 'yes'. (DH is a SAHD and would have probably let him in)

My goodness. I wasn't going to comment any further but I see some of you have now taken to just inventing portions of thr story to better justify your nastiness!

OK so some fact corrections:

I fed back to Amazon that I wasn't happy that their courier asked for entry into my home. I gave the facts of the matter with no embellishments.

When it was brought to my attention the impact this may have I sent a further message (as suggested by a helpful pp) saying i had in fact informed the wrong company - effectively complaint withdrawn.

Neighbour who parcel was addressed to noted that card stated parcel left behind fence not with me and times didn't Match. HE was concerned that something wasn't adding up. HE wanted to check with Amazon whether the courier had made a mistake on the card or if someone else had picked up the parcel to use to gain access somewhere else. I did not ask him to complain nor was he going to. HE (not i) wanted to raise that query.

As it happened another neighbour heard our conversation and checked his CCTV to confirm it was the original amazon courier who brought the parcel to me. - so there was no need for any further contact to happen

So no idea where you got 3 complaints from - in effect there were ultimately no complaints!!

Amazon responded to my first email presumably before they saw the second. Their response was that they agree that couriers shouldn't be asking for access except where large items need to be placed inside the home. They will feed that back to their drivers. They stated that they can't identify the specific driver without conducting further investigation but that they would do so If I wished.

I asked if I was being unreasonable, the answer was yes I was to complain. I withdrew the complaint.

Some of you were just vile and totally uncalled for. You have no idea if there were other circumstances that made me feel more vulnerable - I hope that someone in a more fragile mind than me doesnt in future find themselves on the end of your viciousness - I would hate to think the consequences you could cause.

I can only assume that some of you are horrible people and use this part of the forum to let that side of yourselves out as i would hope it wouldn't be tolerated in real life by those around you.

Neighbour who parcel was addressed to noted that card stated parcel left behind fence not with me and times didn't Match. HE was concerned that something wasn't adding up. HE wanted to check with Amazon whether the courier had made a mistake on

You know when I receive a parcel, whether it's been left in the bin cupboard or with a neighbour etc. I don't check the card to see if the times match. I have my parcel, who gives a fuck how it got there.

I think that there's one individual here who has too much time on their hands who got flamed in a thread they posted who was determined they were going to be justified and stirred the pot with the neighbour.

Nobody in the history of normal picks up a parcel and checks it was delivered exactly like the card says and then contacts the company if it wasn't.... even though they have their parcel.

Well unless they were a fucking loser that is as your neighbour sounds.

The answer many couriers have to this problem is doing their stuff in bags and chucking them into hedgerows. I clear our lane of rubbish and have found some really grim things to tidy up.

They often aren't given enough time to take loo breaks. I would let one use my downstairs loo but have three dogs hanging around.

So the OP has resorted to petulance. Ridiculous to suggest that people who disagree with her are effectively all nasty people.

How much time have you spent on all this op?
Absolutely ridiculous.
And we daren't criticise because that makes us all nasty.
Firstly why ask if you don't care what others think?
Secondly I am horribly judgemental and I think you are a nasty piece of work with too much time on her hands.

have you not the read the thread mrskeats, or ops latest response or you just that daft??

She did care what you all thought, and made a change to her course of action as a result of the responses so what exactly are you expecting to achieve by being so horrid??

It's just been blown out of proportion, what started with a simple request or the toilet, has ignited this storm in a tea Cup.

finally a bit of sense thank you aeroflot. no harm no foul - I'm sure op will think differently if in a similar situation again.

I think that's the idea of aibu is it not?

Yes I've read the thread
All these emails etc and checking CCTV
Unbelievable

I hope op does think next time, has about of compassion. One day she might need the kindness of a stranger.

You still didn't answer my question though Mrskeats? what do you expect to achieve now by being intentionally nasty?

She withdrew her complaint as a direct result of the responses she got here. The cctv was checked to rule out the option he was not who he said he was and was a decision made by the neighbours. Fairly straightforward to me even if I don't necessary agree it was necessary based on the available facts

You are not the only on the thread being mean but you are persistent!

You might be judgemental but I'm intolerant to bullies I'm afraid.

we don't have to agree, but we don't have to jump on an opportunity to test how unpleasant we can be.

Yes I am persistent as I am sick and tired of the lack of compassion I see every day.
The op asked if she was unreasonable. My answer is yes. Horribly so.
Who has the time and energy to harass a poorly paid worker who is probably under huge time pressure??
Saying no is fine. Complaining would not have entered my head.
I've already read the thread as I have already said.

Not agreeing with her response to the issue necessarily but what I do see is that this made her feel vulnerable - there must be more too it so I'm going to take the leap and throw a little compassion and benefit of the doubt her way.

might pay you well some of you to do the same. Some of the posters on this thread have used some big show of pity for this driver as little more than excuse to spit venom at the op.

I find it impossible to stomach behaviour like that

now your just digging a hole mrskeats. how has he been harassed?

He was turned down for the loo, the onlu complaint against him was withdrawn and he would have no awareness of the conversations between the neighbours.

how do you see that as harassment? I'm genuinely interested to know

I think calling people bullies simply because they disagreed with the OP's decision to complain is pretty unpleasant actually.

Some of the posters on this thread have used some big show of pity for this driver as little more than excuse to spit venom at the op

I agree the level of nastiness aimed at the OP has been awful. She shouldn't have complained but she has admitted pages ago that she didn't know that her complaint could lead to the guy getting 'sacked'.

Sooty i think you know very well the issue i have with not disagreeing.

At least it's not how I teach my children to disagree. if you were taught different I'm sorry for you.

Its you're not your. Another thing that gives me hives.
You can't possibly know what action Amazon may have taken unless you have a crystal ball anyway.

I posted before I saw the OPs update. (It's not highlighted for some reason)

Fair play to you OP for coming back and updating. I agree with you that some posters have seemed to be enjoying the hysteria. I'm glad Amazon responded as they did.
AIBU is really odd. You asked a question got replies and acted on them by withdrawing your 'complaint' and yet the nasty comments kept coming. It's just the way AIBU goes sometimes. I wouldn't take it personally if I were you. I recognize some of the more unkind posters as people who like to put the boot in. It's a shame Mumsnet doesn't have a hide poster function.

Ah I'm sorry mrskeats that my autocorrect offended you!

I'm also sorry that you choose to respond to being pulled up on your unpleasant nature with further attacks.

I do hope people treat you more kindly that you treat them.