Active discussions

Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Talk
AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Original poster

To say no to courier.

433 replies

anannoyinglylongusername · 08/01/2017 16:21

Amazon courier just asked to use the loo. I was alone in the house with a baby. I said no and immediately dropped a note to Amazon to say I wasn't impressed that it made me feel uncomfortable.

I feel a bit bad now...remind me that I did the right thing please?!

OP posts:
SoupDragon · 09/01/2017 07:29

Rtft- the OP hadn't ordered anything. It wasn't her parcel.

No, but it was for her neighbour so the point still stands.

myusernamewastaken · 09/01/2017 07:41

Really spiteful of you to complain.....lets hope you are never in the position of having to ask a favour from someone !!!

user1477282676 · 09/01/2017 08:09

Not "Spiteful" at all. OP may have saved him from some real bother in the future.

It's bloody common sense not to walk into stranger's houses!

ArcheryAnnie · 09/01/2017 08:52

It's not the OP's responsibility to sort out the logistics of lavatory facilities for Amazon drivers.

Nobody has suggested that it is, Lass. It's up to the OP to allow or refuse entry into her home as she sees fit.

It's the mean and precious overkill of arranging three complaints to his employers for the temerity to ask which is the problem.

ArcheryAnnie · 09/01/2017 08:53

OP may have saved him from some real bother in the future.

Yeah, the "bother" of having paid employment.

myusernamewastaken · 09/01/2017 08:55

It is bloody spiteful....it is her right to say no to him using the toilet....the only reason for her to complain is because she wants to get him into trouble....

WaitroseCoffeeCostaCup · 09/01/2017 08:55

Wow.

1horatio · 09/01/2017 09:36

Not "Spiteful" at all. OP may have saved him from some real bother in the futu

"No, I'm sorry you can't. It makes me feel vulnerable and I don't think a courier should ask whether he can come in when delivering something."

If she really cared about his future she would have said something like that and she wouldn't have complained.

sourgrapes28 · 09/01/2017 10:08

I always let people use the bathroom. I never really thought twice about it tbh but reading some of these replies I now see how naive I have been.
The complaint was a bit much to be fair.

Gwenhwyfar · 09/01/2017 12:39

"Gwenhwfar because it avoids any grey areas then.

What if someone felt pressured to let a delivery person in? Or what if a child let one in?"

A child should not be opening the door to strangers without the parents being nearby. Your idea of banning people from even asking to use the toilets is pretty cruel. There are people who are happy to be asked. The delivery man doesn't know which is which without asking so he should have the right to ask.

Aeroflotgirl · 09/01/2017 12:42

It is spiteful, the man asked, she rightly said not, and he went off! She did not throw her abuse or assault her! To complain about him, as unacceptable uncalled for! Lets hope none of you are in a situation that you need the help from somebody or to ask something similar.

StarryIllusion · 09/01/2017 12:48

You do know they aren't allowed to deviate from their route for personal reasons? If there is no garage or pub or whatever on their route that day then they can't go there because they need a wee. Not unreasonable to ask if someone minds them using the loo and of course I would have let him. Poor bastard. I think you're a right nasty, spiteful piece of work for ringing up and complaining too. Why even do that? It isn't as though they can train him on how to not need to pee and Amazon do a lot of zero hour contracts so you've probably just lost him his hours for the month. I marvel at how seemingly normal people can just treat others like that and think it is perfectly normal.

Not unreasonable to refuse but complaining was a real dick move.

Bluntness100 · 09/01/2017 12:49

I don't understand why a planned Amazon delivery is any different to a planned sky engineer or a gas man turning up unexpectedly to read the meter. I'd just let them use the loo.

However the letting him in or not is not the issue, it's the bloody avalanche of communication Amazon has now had on this guy.

Op, don't worry, he probably won't be back as he's been fired. You won't be in "that position" again,

Aeroflotgirl · 09/01/2017 13:37

I am shocked, he asked a completely reasonable question, the op said no, and he went without fuss. What did the op want to achieve by making a complaint about him, sounds very vindictive! If she was that concerned about the issue, she should put her energies into campaigning into better working conditions for courier drivers. I did'ent think that they were allowed to deviate from their route. So if the toilet is in another direction they can't use it, that is why some ask their customers.

SetPhasersTaeMalkie · 09/01/2017 13:52

Lass

Here's an article about archaic Scots law.

www.scotsman.com/heritage/people-places/legal-or-ludicrous-strange-scottish-laws-1-2583530

So I don't think the poster was being 'stupid' at all, just remembering something she had read or heard.

Evergreen17 · 09/01/2017 14:34

I wouldn't have let him unless DH was in the house too.

Evergreen17 · 09/01/2017 14:35

My toilet is upstairs next to nursery

Pinotwoman82 · 09/01/2017 14:48

For me It would depend on where I lived, I live on quite a busy road and my toilet is right by the front door so if this was me I would say yes and stand by the front door with it open. If I lived in a more secluded area I would probably say no. It's not wrong to say no if you don't feel comfortable, but I really wouldn't think twice to complain about it.

igotnotimeforthis · 09/01/2017 15:04

I don't think OP has done anything wrong.
The number of people here trying to crucify her is a bit ridiculous.
She has the right to decline access to her home to a stranger fgs!
She also has the right to report it to employer - and as she said she was not malicious in her email.
The fact that amazon trats their employees badly was not known to her at the time of reporting- and even if it was she would still have the right to report!
It could have been a poor guy needing a piss but just as easily he could have had other motives.
None of the crucifiers here actually know which one it is, btw.

ArcheryAnnie · 09/01/2017 15:24

She has the right to decline access to her home to a stranger fgs!

Who here has said she doesn't, igotnotimeforthis? Seriously, who? Not me.

She also has the right to report it to employer - and as she said she was not malicious in her email.

She's got the right, certainly, and we've got the right to point out that she was being incredibly thoughtless and precious in exercising that right, too. And it doesn't matter if her intent was malicious, if the outcome is that the bloke would lose his job, which all the available evidence points to as a likely outcome.

The fact that amazon trats their employees badly was not known to her at the time of reporting- and even if it was she would still have the right to report!

She's still got the right to report, and we still have the right to tell her that we think her actions are horrible and OTT.

It could have been a poor guy needing a piss but just as easily he could have had other motives.

So what? She didn't let him in. Nobody thinks she should be forced to let him in.

Aeroflotgirl · 09/01/2017 15:28

No actually I disagree igot, yes she had a right to say no to him , but she had no right to report him, as he did nothing wrong.

BertrandRussell · 09/01/2017 15:32

"It could have been a poor guy needing a piss but just as easily he could have had other motives."

Now, let me think. Which is more likely? Hmm

But anyway- of course she had a perfect right to say no. I don't think anyone has said she didn't.

It's the complaining that's the issue.

BeaveredBadgered · 09/01/2017 15:36

I am paranoid to the point of silliness about safety at home so I would have said no too but I also would worry that if I complained he knows where I live (even though it's highly unlikely anyone is malicious enough to 'get their own back' due to a complaint made). To be honest, I wouldn't complain anyway as I'd have felt bad that I didn't feel able to help him but I do avoid complaining if my personal details are already out there.

Kintan · 09/01/2017 15:43

If he does lose his job over this OP, he'll know exactly who complained and where they lived - I wouldn't be comfortable knowing that. But hopefully Amazon - despite their reputation - will ignore your complaint for its petty nature.

1horatio · 09/01/2017 15:45

Op, to protect yourself, you must:

contact amazon, tell them you were off your meds, that the delivery guy was great and to please ignore the previous messages.