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To be pissed off after neighbour's son called DD "a dirty bitch mongrel?"

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user1482840083 · 28/12/2016 07:36

My late father was Afro-Caribbean and my mother is a Latina originally from the Dominican Republic. DH is also mixed (half black/half Chinese), so my two children (DS is 24 – DD is 14) are made up of a diverse background. My daughter is good friends with the girl next door – she’s also 14. DD’s friend has as a 16 yr old brother. Yesterday she went over to the neighbour’s house. Like her older brother who is now works as a videogame programmer, DD loves videogames. She played her friend’s brother on “FIFA” and beat him. He called her a “dirty bitch mongrel” in response to the loss.

To DD’s credit, she told me she just laughed at the boy’s frustration (she’s that kind of girl – finds humour in the face of adversity). Fortunately, DD’s friend’s mother was within earshot and reprimanded the boy. And she forced him to come to our house and apologise. I and DH accepted the apology as we know children do silly and sometimes unthoughtful things. But when I woke up this morning I was absolutely seething – angrier than I first was when I heard what happened.

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user1482840083 · 29/12/2016 06:31

I met the boy's mother yesterday evening. We talked, and it was productive. My anger subsided after we spoke.

And regarding the intent of the word mongrel - he meant in a racist way. After I and the mother talked, she called him in. She questioned him regarding whether he knew the meaning of it and in tears, he said he did. He continually said that he wasn't a racist - it was just something that slipped out. At this point I have to say the one I'm feeling the most sorry for is the mother. She's absolutely devastated - she's a wonderful woman and she raised the boy to be much better than that. She could barely even look at him after he admitted that he knew.

I've let it go. I got the closure I need with the talk yesterday. I and DH had a talk with DD about situations like this. We have had in the past, but yesterday felt especially pertinent in light of what happened. DD said she's fine and she's not even thinking about what happened. But we told her that she shouldn't normalise things like this, and that if it happens at school she needs to report it immediately.

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user1482840083 · 29/12/2016 06:33

KnittedBlanketHoles - Oh my goodness. I honestly can't believe all they did was make them apologise after what they did to your daughter. Are they for real? I'm so, so sorry that your girl had to go through that. Absolutely appalling.

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user1482840083 · 29/12/2016 06:48

CH8 - Yes, when he comes back in a couple of weeks I definitely will ask him about friendly gaming communities for young girls. His girlfriend is a co-worker (a programmer like him) and will be coming for a week, so she'll be of help, too.

I wish I'd been as good at maths as both my children are. DS has always loved it - he's a natural problem solver. DD, while she's every bit as good at maths as DS was at school, can't stand it. Although she doesn't give it less of an effort than she does with the subjects she loves. DS said what you have done regarding DD's desire to work in games. That having two skill-sets (art design and programming) is a big positive when it comes to studios hiring people. Of course, when hired she would have to specialise in one thing (the amount of work involved in making a game is incredible) but having knowledge in two key fields is very desireable.

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hesterton · 29/12/2016 08:06

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user1482840083 · 29/12/2016 08:14

The one thing that I appreciate is that he didn't lie to us about his intentions by using the word. He could have easily lied and said he was ignorant of the word's implications.

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noenergy · 29/12/2016 08:49

Appalling language but I don't think he has learnt it from the parents since they did make him apologise. Maybe he doesn't even know what it really means. Kids pick up all sorts of language.

Don't let it get to you, i know it's easier said than done but you will only wind urself up more. I wouldn't bring it up with the parents again. But I would cut down or not let your DD go over to theirs, let her friend come to yours just don't try and stop that friendship esp since friend was apologetic.

noenergy · 29/12/2016 08:51

Sorry x post only read original.

Glad u got a chance to talk it through in a calm way.

FatalKittehCharms · 29/12/2016 09:07

Mumzypopz

No-one is having a conversation about dog ownership you silly person, when my DS said he thought it meant dog, he didn't literally mean a dog with four legs. I took it that he meant dog in the sense of a woman who sleeps around.

In response to your earlier post saying 'we're thinking this through too much', I think you should explain to your son that mongrel is a racist term to someone of mixed race.

1horatio · 29/12/2016 09:17

So, we do know that he knew he was using racist and sexist (why is everybody so worried about the racism but not the sexism?!) language.

Which is wrong,

he's also 16 (and whatever we'd like to tell ourselves, according to their brain development 16 year old are not adults) and he uses language that was very vile but in the context of gaming not really a surprise.
I don't think that makes him a racist, btw.

I've used the word bitch, and yes, I know that it's a sexist insult, but I'm not a sexist.

FurryLittleTwerp · 29/12/2016 10:49

Well done to him for admitting that he knew. Hopefully he has learnt something.

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