Bit victim blamey? And putting being attacked equal with being an attacker?

[JustBeyond]

That's my opinion, what do you think?

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It does surprise me when some posters on MN shout 'Victim blaming!' at anyone or anything encouraging people not to take risks.

Shame, as they are more likely to end up the real victims, they're so busy shouting 'victim blaming' to heed the advice.

More fool them, I say.

Crosspost with Barbarian .

I think a better poster would be "don't get shit faced drunk or you might do something stupid"

I have never been called PO before, I shall wear that badge with pride

That's my local police force and I support their campaign wholeheartedly.

I interpret the "don't walk home alone" part as preventing yourself from wandering into the path of an oncoming car when you're drunk and your judgment is impaired, or falling over and dying of hypothermia in a ditch, etc etc. We watched the aftermath of a teenage party making its way home along our road last Saturday night; they were all hammered and jumping in front of cars, which I assume they wouldn't have done if they were sober. We went outside to help, and ended up herding all these drunk teens along the pavement like sheep!

I do understand where the OP is coming from, but I choose to interpret the words differently. Obviously victim-blaming is wrong but I don't think this is what Dorset Police were trying to say in this instance; they just worded it a little clumsily perhaps.

Did anyone actually read that article properly about the Scottish woman posing on facebook as she was supposedly being followed? The first post to say she was being followed was at 2.05am then at 2.55 am she says 'he's up beside me'. Bit fishy I think!

If I were sober, I would definitely walk home alone.

I would have to rely on a stranger to get me home safely if my car broke down.

I've never been in a fight sober or drunk.

I've never disregarded consent, because as a female, I am the one to give it. I have 'consented' to practices that would be considered rape. I was sober at the time.

I wouldn't drive in an unfit state (whatever that means) if I was sober. I'd call an ambulance.

I wouldn't leave a friend alone in an unfit state (whatever that means, presumeably it means one of the group have to be sober?), plus very drunk people are very hard to have a discussion with. I'd call an ambulance.

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I do think it's victim blaming. As far as I know, alcohol is not illegal in this country.

And so? Smoking's not illegal but we still warn people not to do it, and impose limits on it to prevent harm to others.

I think it's OK. Male relatives of mine have been attacked by groups when walking home alone. I know it could be interpreted badly because women are often blamed for their own sexual assault if they've been drunk or walking home alone, but as general advice it is quite solid.

People dying of hyperthermia after falling asleep in the open is also not uncommon.

Whilst walking home with friends, not drunk but having had a pint at the local, we noticed that someone had slipped on ice and fallen under some bushes. It was obvious he'd had a few, but he didn't appear drunk. No way were we leaving him. It was a frosty night and we suspected he'd hit his head on the pavement. We did call an ambulance. They arrived quickly.

In other words, given the consensus that this is about falling over/ hypothermia/falling into canals, what they actually need to say is:

If you were sober would you walk home alone drunk?

No, I don't think I would.

Though I do frequently walk home alone sober, seeing that I cannot drive and none of my colleagues live nearby.

So then why allow these mind changing and health reductive substances?

This project must cost millions. Oh wait. Both are heavily taxed. Without those taxes, our services wouldn't run, because no one wants to pay extra tax.

So how would you get home then Cory? Would you get into a taxi with a stranger?

It does surprise me when some posters on MN shout 'Victim blaming!' at anyone or anything encouraging people not to take risks.

It does get used as if its "badness" is a self-evident truth.

If I discovered that a friend had gone on holiday and left a sign on their front door asking the postofficer to leave any parcels on their kitchen table (as they have left the kitchen door unlocked), then I might say something about that wasn't too clever as a passing thief might have stolen from them. OK so I am victim blaming and being a thief-apologist. So what.

If you were sober would you walk home alone drunk?

Cory , that is almost exactly how I read it.

Anyone remember the public information films of the 70s?

Washing hands before food, fire guards, how to call the coast guard, how to cross the road and fire work danger? Those were the days

Yeah because if you leave your house unlocked, car unlocked you deserve all you get.

Obviously those walking down the street wielding their expensive mobile phones deserve to be mugged.

Obviously someone walking down the street with an expensive looking handbag deserves to get mugged.

If you go out 'half dressed', you deserve to get raped.

Obviously, all that follows from the poster.

But I am now, sober, saying that tonight I will walk home alone drunk. So that doesn't work (for me) either

Footinmouth

No I don't. Quite frankly my dear, society has thankfully moved on.

If you go out 'half dressed', you deserve to get raped

It's about all that's missing from the poster tbh don't walk home alone half dressed.

Amd ignoring consent isn't some stupid drunk decision it's the decision of a frickin rapist and has no place on a "keep safe" poster alongside stick with all your friends together...

Yep Giles. Alcohol doesn't make you a different person, if you're a rapist drunk, you'd still do it (given the opportunity) if you were sober. Women are raped by sober people every day, they didn't need to be drunk to do it.

Oh Elendon you should u tube them my dear they are priceless.

Gracious, whilst of course assault is not the victims fault in any way, of course girls should be able to wear what they want without fear of attack who wouldn't advise their children to be careful in certain situations?

We still tell children (both sexes) to stay with people they trust and never leave a night out with a stranger. Not to walk home alone if drinking. To pre book taxis rather than flag in street. To wear something over any particularly minimal outfits. To not take all their cards etc with them and to leave spare keys somewhere safe. We also have friends mobile numbers and friends have ours in case of lost phones or accidents.