Bit victim blamey? And putting being attacked equal with being an attacker?

[JustBeyond]

That's my opinion, what do you think?

www.facebook.com/dorsetpolice/photos/a.718756231475885.1073741828.568402286511281/1618761368142029/?type=3

The thing is she took a risk NOT because she walked on her own whilst drunk.
She took a risk because she was drink altogether.

The walking on her own has nothing to do with this incident.
The being drunk has.

Cold doesn't "sober you up" - you sober up as your liver metabolises the alcohol in your blood. She didn't freeze because she was stranded - she was in a suburban area with a working phone. I find it hard to believe that such a smart girl would have met such a tragic end yards from help when sober.

Well maybe we should say don't walk home alone when you are drunk unless you intend to walk home drunk with your husband or your boyfriend or an ex in which case you are statistically more at risk than if you were walking home alone.

But that gets a bit too close to the bone I suppose.

Police are just trying to protect innocent victims and prevent crimes.
It would be insanity for them to be encouraging people to exercise their right to walk around alone.

Well, technically, if more people were out walking around alone then fewer people would be alone and the risk would decrease ...

I'm sorry to hear about that myoriginal3 . I hope you are getting the help you need.

Well maybe we should say don't walk home alone when you are drunk unless you intend to walk home drunk with your husband or your boyfriend or an ex in which case you are statistically more at risk than if you were walking home alone

Why are you statistically more at risk walking home with your husband or boyfriend? Just how many husbands and boyfriends are attacking their partners? Some may, I agree, but seriously,..the majority don't and never would.
I have seen drunk women attacking their partners...Do most women? I doubt it.
Why women are getting so worked up about advice on keeping safe and the dangers of alcohol is really odd.
The advice is for all - not just women - men too.

It's odd isn't it? I've been sexually assaulted on public transport at rush hour with loads of people around. I've been sexually assaulted in my own bed by a friend. I have never been assaulted walking home by myself late at night. It's almost as if our perceptions of risk don't match the reality.

Come on GottaGet two women die every week at the hands of a man

Hundreds women are beaten and raped by

Women crisis centres are over flowing with women fleeing from a man who who they are in a relationship with or were in a relationship with.

I'm lucky that I have never been harmed by a man but I'm not so stupid as to not be aware the the greatest threat to women are the men they loved at some point.

Gotta, more women are attacked, sexually and otherwise, by people they know – usually partners – than by strangers. That's what that post meant.

Come on GottaGet two women die every week at the hands of a man who who they are in a relationship with or were in a relationship with.

Hundreds women are beaten and raped by a man who who they are in a relationship with or were in a relationship with.

Women crisis centres are over flowing with women fleeing from a man who who they are in a relationship with or were in a relationship with.

I'm lucky that I have never been harmed by a man but I'm not so stupid as to not be aware the the greatest threat to women are the men they loved at some point.

It is also odd that everyone is assuming the advice is just about preventing being attacked.
It's not. It is about keeping safe in many situations and being able to make good decisions.

I was mugged at knifepoint walking home on my own. I knew it would have been more sensible to take a taxi but I was a student and didn't have much money.

It was entirely my attacker's fault for doing it but I wish I'd made a different decision. At no point did anyone suggest it was my fault that it happened.

It isn't contradictory to remind people to take care of themselves and make sensible decisions while holding them not to blame if something bad does happen.

Come on GottaGet two women die every week at the hands of a man who who they are in a relationship with or were in a relationship with.Hundreds women are beaten and raped by a man who who they are in a relationship with or were in a relationship with.Women crisis centres are over flowing with women fleeing from a man who who they are in a relationship with or were in a relationship with

I agree.
Like I said though - The majority are not. I would also say that of all the women who walk home drunk with a husband or partner are not attacked by that person. They are less likely to be attacked by someone else and they are less likely to come to harm than if alone.

Lules - agree with that. Both my near-misses were when I reluctantly agreed to let male acquaintances walk me home (despite my spidey senses screaming no) because the "rules" say don't walk home alone. Both occasions came close to me being raped/coerced into sex. I would have been much safer walking home alone on both occasions.

I still reckon it's the lumping in "don't walk home alone" with stuff that is clearly illegal on the same poster - like actually being the one to "disregard consent" (aka commit rape) is no worse than making an unwise call to walk home alone when you're shitfaced (which though a bit daft for all sorts of reasons, is not actually a crime of any sort).

Bit of an aside, but do posters commenting on the poor girl who froze to death realise that drunkeness aside, hypothermia would probably have impaired her cognitive functions so severely that the obvious things - bang on the neighbour's door, try to break a window and break in, etc - probably wouldn't have occurred to her? I remember trying to persuade a friend to put on extra layers of clothing when we were up on the fells in N Yorks and she was clearly in the early stages of hypothermia - it was very much like trying to reason with someone who is drunk.

I dunno about anyone else, but I'm more concerned if I walk home with someone else that there will be something about them that a random person takes issue with. If it's just me, I only need to worry about what I am doing

Mostly - reminds me of the explorers who stripped off when they died

Hold on I have to go pick the kids from school - it's twilight here and I'm unchaperoned - just saying

mostly

Many many people on MN have also stated they don't answer the bloody door.

How many people realistically would answer someone banging on the door late at night?

Gotta, more women are attacked, sexually and otherwise, by people they know – usually partners – than by strangers. That's what that post meant

Yes, I know SaphireStrange I agree, they are.

That is a separate issue to the one being discussed about walking home safely when drunk.

It may not have been the case with the poor girl however someone being out with no coat or having had their coat nicked removing shows due to pain and having no signal on phone or being to cold to be able to text/call and people not answering the door are all not out there scenarios which means it could happen to someone sober too.

Hold on I have to go pick the kids from school - it's twilight here and I'm unchaperoned-just saying

Don't get drunk before you go

I think someone would answer the door Giles - or open an upstairs window at least. More to the point, I bet half a dozen would have called the police if someone was persistently banging the door late at night.

Gotta, you must be being disingenuous. You asked Why are you statistically more at risk walking home with your husband or boyfriend? and your question has been answered.

I'm not sure that being drunk or not comes into it.