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AIBU?

AIBU to expect 'D'P to back me up on the Santa thing..?

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Tillyscoutsmum · 26/11/2016 19:59

Had the shittest week in a very shit year so may be over reacting (and happy to be told if that's the case but please be gentle 😢)

So DD is 9 (and a fairly "young" 9) She came home a couple years of weeks ago and said that one of her friends at school has told her Santa didn't exist. She asked me whether he did and I could tell that she still wanted to believe but was just looking for me to confirm that he did. I don't necessarily agree with outright lying and I know some parents don't agree with the whole Santa charade at all, but personally, I feel it adds a bit of "magic" to Christmas and would like to keep it up for as long as is reasonably possible. With that in mind, I just asked her how she thought the presents got there and who she thought ate the mince pie etc. and she seemed reassured that her friend must be wrong. I did tell her that some people chose to believe and others didn't and that it was up to her. This conversation also took place in front of 6 year old DS, so whilst I acknowledge that 9 is a reasonable age to start getting doubts, I really wanted to avoid planting any seeds of doubt in DS' mind.

DP was there during the convo. For clarity, he is not their dad and is a relatively new relationship (about 2 and half years but only involved with DCs for a year or so). During the convo and in front of both dcs, he starts shaking his head and saying "You should tell them the truth". I tried to shush him but DD asked him whether he 'believed' and he said he didn't because he was an adult. DD kept then asking me, getting quite upset and begging me to tell her the truth so I came clean at bedtime (just me and her) and we had a little cry about how she was growing up and a tiny bit of the magic would be gone for her and she must promise to go along with it all in front of DS until he's a bit older and starts having doubts his self. I was pissed off with DP but didn't really say anything.

So yesterday we were at a Xmas light switch on complete with the big, red fella. DS is excited and DD is playing along. DP then starts making comments again implying that he's not real. I asked him very calmly to please not express his cynicism in front of DS. He then proceeds to shout at me, telling me DS is a bright lad and will work it out for himself soon enough. It got quite heated and I've been offish with him today (hoping for an apology tbh). It's just blown up again and he's accused me of being a "psycho" about Christmas and said I'm making a big deal out of nothing. He reckons I put too much emphasis on Christmas and making it special and says I'm doing it to get one over on ex h 😵 (Blatantly not true btw. I've always loved Christmas).

Sorry. That was really long (and dull)

So AIBU? Or is he a twat??

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Oliversmumsarmy · 26/11/2016 22:50

Ds believed in Santa till he was 11. He saw Santa one Christmas when he was 4 and wouldn't be convinced otherwise. It was me in my red dressing gown.

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RachelRosie · 26/11/2016 22:51

Firmly on Team Twat! Hope your doing OK OP, obviously this whole thread has had more implications than SantaGate!
On a side note, I love the idea of Magic Makers :D my first DC is due to April but I am so excited to do the whole Santa thing :D xx

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Bogeyface · 26/11/2016 22:52

FWIW re Santa, I have told the older ones as they got to "Is he real?" I tend to explain it that he was real once and he is the spirit of Xmas and that believing in him gives us the magic of Xmas. That he may not be tangible and alive but that doesnt mean that he isnt in our hearts.

Then I make them part of the secret and they feel quite grown up about it, it also allows them to still believe without looking babyish!

As for him. Bin him.

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Bogeyface · 26/11/2016 22:55

Also, Dear Virginia would be a lovely thing to read with her :)

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Questioningeverything · 26/11/2016 22:58

Twat. Ltb. For everyone's sake. He's a bully, an aggressive one at that

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Bogeyface · 26/11/2016 23:05

Any person who cannot have a calm and reasoned discussion about anything and resorts, without fail, the shouting and finger pointing is not someone I would want around my kids.

You know what teenagers are like? Can you imagine what he would be like when your DD decides to behave like a typical teen? Its not going to end well is it?

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splendidglenda · 26/11/2016 23:26

He's the vilest Twat from Twatsville

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MiscellaneousAssortment · 26/11/2016 23:35

I'm jumping into the flow with a double twat and bell end nomination Grin

But on a less flippant note, poor you, horrible when someone who you had hope and affection for turns out to be a twat faced bellend. Bleugh.

You are right of course, you cannot have a man who can't control himself around your children. What kind of self centered twat face puts his own (random and excessively strong) desire to be a twat faced bellend above everyone else's needs? Who the fuck puts his own selfish urges above any common decency and respect for you, his partner? And how dare he rate his own weirdy needs to dominate and trample over his partners parenting decisions above a pair of young children's innocent joy in believing in Christmas?!

He sounds like a destroyer, not a builder. Does he get off on bringing other people down in life? Or has that annoying fallacy that he is the one true speaker of the truth? The elevation of 'telling it straight' to some kind of virtue or defining feature is selfish and mean. Disguising his kick out of spreading disillusionment and sucking out other people lightness and joy is really twatty wankerdom.

Sometimes you can get caught up in all the side issues and complicated stuff ... but basically, it sounds like he gets off on taking and destroying. You can't turn that person into a builder of love, respect and kindness. And if you try I think you'll get sucked dry (err, unfortunate phrasing when combined by the twatty bellend swearing, but you'll get what I mean I hope!)

Your family's Christmas will be much more magical when it's all about love and sharing. Wine Cake

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BlackeyedSusan · 26/11/2016 23:41

santa brings presents to those who believe and parents have to step in for those who do not believe

oh and dp is a twat.

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Bringmewineandcake · 27/11/2016 00:17

Haven't read the whole thread so I'm sorry if you've left him already and this is too late...
But oh my, he's vile. How dare he have the arrogance to say those things in front of your children!! I'm Angry and he needs to be gone. Mean, disrespectful to you, spoiling precious times for your kids. Utter twat.

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MidniteScribbler · 27/11/2016 00:21

I hope he's good in bed, because he doesn't seem to have any other redeeming qualities.

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MrsRobinson79 · 27/11/2016 00:27

Sorry another one to add to the chorus of twat

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MistressMerryWeather · 27/11/2016 00:33

The quality of sex doesn't matter when you're shagging the Grinch.

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mummypeepee · 27/11/2016 00:42

My elder two believed right up to year 6, were never the butt of any jokes and were so disappointed it wasn't real. Dd3 is nearly 9 and I feel is wavering. We have had to kill the magic a bit as she has always been sooooo terrified of anyone in costume i.e. Mickey Mouse any one in a beat costume etc that we told her there were people inside. Went with there is on one SC and the others are helpers. Always had the line if you don't believe you won't get Santa presents, one from mummy there 😂 They are only young for such a little time he is a major twat to kill the magic.

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twattymctwatterson · 27/11/2016 00:46

Has anyone said Twatwaffle? He's one of those

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CancellyMcChequeface · 27/11/2016 06:24

I don't agree with the whole 'magic of Santa' obsession and think children like your 9-year-old should be told the truth when they question it.

But there's no justification for the way he responded, and especially not for calling you a 'psycho' and saying it's about your ex. So I agree, he's a twat.

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Mindtrope · 27/11/2016 06:35

The whole magic of Santa is real though.
Kids totally understand the world of make believe and it is real to them. Kids totally get the whole fairies at the bottom of the garden thing, it's us adults who have the trouble.
I have a 16 year old who still puts out biscuits for Santa on Christmas eve.

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GeekyWombat · 27/11/2016 07:03

Twatty McTwattison.

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SkafaceClaw · 27/11/2016 07:52

Yuck - What a twat! Get rid!

Do you really want your children to be around this?

Behaviour is often modelled.
Do you want your daughter to think it's ok for partners to shout at her to get their point across?
Or for your son to shout aggressively at others when they don't agree with him?

In my line of work we find teenagers with little respect for women. Makes sense as to why when you see the dynamic at home!

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Sassypants82 · 27/11/2016 07:58

I'd be livid in your shoes. Absolutely none of his business what you tell your kids. Jesus, I'm raging for you. The cheek of him. Kids will be grown up for long enough, they should be let enjoy the magic of Christmas for as you can keep it going.

Also, how dare he argue with you over it - his opinion is irrelevant in this situation. And in front of your kids?! Nah, would not be having that. He's a sap.

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LineyReborn · 27/11/2016 08:08

He sounds jealous of your children. I'm glad you are going to end it.

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Starlight2345 · 27/11/2016 08:22

I had a similar conversation with my DS(9) the other day though handled it differently ..It is an impulse thing what you decide for your child. I did a thread on it incedntally.

However these are your decisions to make. I certainly would of denied to the hilt with a 6 year old there..

He doesn't get to make decisions like that about your children. If he was there dad and didn't agree I would expect him to not comment and discuss it later but as your bfriend it is none of his business

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Bettersleepoutdoors · 27/11/2016 08:32

He is an arse.

  1. He has no business trying to impose his view of this on your children.
  2. Being unable to keep his mouth shut in front of your Dcs shows remarkable lack of self control/ awareness.
  3. Shouting at you over this is abusive and unacceptable.


My personal opinion, which you are free to ignore as I am afterall, just a faceless stranger on the internet, is that you would do well to give yourself an early Christmas present and get shot of this man.
Sorry you've been having a shit time. Flowers
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ZbZb · 27/11/2016 08:55

My kids have never believed in Santa and I think it's a bit weird when I hear of older kids believing but I still think he was unkind. It's not his call.

It sounds a bit unbelievable though......

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Msqueen33 · 27/11/2016 08:57

It sounds like this is another incident in a long line of things. He sounds awful. Regardless of how he feels he should have had a private conversation with you.

I'm not sure I'd want someone like that around my children. TWAT!

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