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AIBU to expect 'D'P to back me up on the Santa thing..?

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Tillyscoutsmum · 26/11/2016 19:59

Had the shittest week in a very shit year so may be over reacting (and happy to be told if that's the case but please be gentle 😢)

So DD is 9 (and a fairly "young" 9) She came home a couple years of weeks ago and said that one of her friends at school has told her Santa didn't exist. She asked me whether he did and I could tell that she still wanted to believe but was just looking for me to confirm that he did. I don't necessarily agree with outright lying and I know some parents don't agree with the whole Santa charade at all, but personally, I feel it adds a bit of "magic" to Christmas and would like to keep it up for as long as is reasonably possible. With that in mind, I just asked her how she thought the presents got there and who she thought ate the mince pie etc. and she seemed reassured that her friend must be wrong. I did tell her that some people chose to believe and others didn't and that it was up to her. This conversation also took place in front of 6 year old DS, so whilst I acknowledge that 9 is a reasonable age to start getting doubts, I really wanted to avoid planting any seeds of doubt in DS' mind.

DP was there during the convo. For clarity, he is not their dad and is a relatively new relationship (about 2 and half years but only involved with DCs for a year or so). During the convo and in front of both dcs, he starts shaking his head and saying "You should tell them the truth". I tried to shush him but DD asked him whether he 'believed' and he said he didn't because he was an adult. DD kept then asking me, getting quite upset and begging me to tell her the truth so I came clean at bedtime (just me and her) and we had a little cry about how she was growing up and a tiny bit of the magic would be gone for her and she must promise to go along with it all in front of DS until he's a bit older and starts having doubts his self. I was pissed off with DP but didn't really say anything.

So yesterday we were at a Xmas light switch on complete with the big, red fella. DS is excited and DD is playing along. DP then starts making comments again implying that he's not real. I asked him very calmly to please not express his cynicism in front of DS. He then proceeds to shout at me, telling me DS is a bright lad and will work it out for himself soon enough. It got quite heated and I've been offish with him today (hoping for an apology tbh). It's just blown up again and he's accused me of being a "psycho" about Christmas and said I'm making a big deal out of nothing. He reckons I put too much emphasis on Christmas and making it special and says I'm doing it to get one over on ex h 😵 (Blatantly not true btw. I've always loved Christmas).

Sorry. That was really long (and dull)

So AIBU? Or is he a twat??

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onedayimightforget · 26/11/2016 20:29

As an aside, I know you've had the conversation with DD now but I quite like this explanation for who/what Santa is media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/b0/90/b9/b090b9f8c8c6027e5d209632f10d6179.jpg

MistressMerryWeather · 26/11/2016 20:30

You deserve better too.

I could be a moany, negative prat all day long and DH would never, ever shout and point his finger at me.

He sounds like a total bully and he's starting on the kids now.

BratFarrarsPony · 26/11/2016 20:30

Very mean tbh, and I am not even a Santa - head. Very very mean.

Oliversmumsarmy · 26/11/2016 20:31

I told my dc that Santa came to those that believed in him. Which meant for those that tried to say there wasn't a Santa they knew that was why Santa didn't leave presents for them.

I would explain that dp didnt believe in Santa so Santa didn't visit him.

Otherwise just tell them both he is complete TWAT

Costacoffeeplease · 26/11/2016 20:32

He sounds better and better Hmm

Twat

plipplops · 26/11/2016 20:35

Yep, twat x

HarryPottersMagicWand · 26/11/2016 20:35

Another one saying twat. I'd hit the roof at some partner trying to dictate to my children what they should and shouldn't believe. That isn't his call to make. The shouting at me and calling me psycho would completely do it for me. Sounds like he has a huge chip on that grumpy arsed shoulder of his. I wouldn't be with anyone who shouted at me like that.

sophiestew · 26/11/2016 20:35

He is unable to have a calm discussion about anything. If I disagree or comment negatively on anything them he reacts quite aggressively (not physically - just shouting and finger pointing).

Joining the "twat" chorus. I will throw in a LTB - you say you have had a very shit year. I think you will have several more of those if you don't ditch this loser Flowers

PurpleDaisies · 26/11/2016 20:37

He is unable to have a calm discussion about anything. If I disagree or comment negatively on anything them he reacts quite aggressively (not physically - just shouting and finger pointing).

This would be the big issue for me. The Santa thing is a bit of a red herring. If he behaves like an arse, why are you with him?

WellErrr · 26/11/2016 20:37

Smug immature arsehole that doesn't have kids yet thinks he knows it all.

This.

And twat.

stitchglitched · 26/11/2016 20:37

Please don't inflict this bullying dickhead on your children any longer.

JennyHolzersGhost · 26/11/2016 20:39

This is a straight red card I'm afraid. Send him off.

Kel1234 · 26/11/2016 20:39

Why would he want to ruin it for the children? It's part of the fun if Christmas with young children, hanging up the stocking and leaving out........ Whatever you usually leave.
Last Xmas was my first as a mum, my lo was only 3 months old. He will be 15 months this year so will understand a lot more. I can't wait.

CockacidalManiac · 26/11/2016 20:40

Get rid. He's a twat.

cockadoodledoooo · 26/11/2016 20:41

He's known them a year and jumping in on a parenting decision? Does your ex know what he did? I totally agree you should be pissed with him, but if I was your ex I would be fucking furious that someone like that spends time with my babies. He threw a tantrum, he has no right to wade in on such a clearly important thing for you and your babies

IrenetheQuaint · 26/11/2016 20:42

I'm baffled by the MN Santa obsession, but whatever one's views on it, undermining you in front of your children is unacceptable. Not being capable of having a calm disagreement is also unacceptable.

hoopdeloop · 26/11/2016 20:42

Twat and he would be getting a chunk of coal for Christmas and naff all else for doing that!

harderandharder2breathe · 26/11/2016 20:50

What a twat! I hope santa doesn't bring him a single thing for Christmas!

SVJAA · 26/11/2016 20:52

Why would he actively try to suck the joy out of Christmas for two little kids? What reason could he have? Beyond being a soulless twat obviously.

WannaBe · 26/11/2016 20:54

He was out of order, no doubt. But I would be wanting to know exactly why he felt the need to overreact quite so much to something which is in effect quite so trivial in the scheme of things. Because to react on that scale to the question of whether there is or isn't a Santa really isn't normal.

And as to this: "I think he has a point but shouldn't have argued it in front of you. She will get picked on if she still believes at her age and all her friends know. She will be the butt of every joke." no, they really won't be picked on at nine. A lot of children still believe at nine, many keep up the pretence for their friends and some don't believe. But there really isn't this culture of nine year olds being picked on for believing in Santa which would somehow justify parents' insistence that children be told the truth. If nine year olds are picking on others for believing in Santa then they should be dealt with in line with the school's bullying policy. If parents want to tel/not tell their children the truth that is up to them, but this notion that children ought to be told/will somehow be scarred/bullied for believing just isn't true.

ladygracie · 26/11/2016 20:58

He's a twat. But not just for the Father Christmas thing, for all the other things too.

Blatherskite · 26/11/2016 21:00

Cagliostro thank you for sharing that. It made me a bit teary! DS is 9 and coming to the end of believing and I know he'll love 'graduating' to being a Magic Maker when he finally does stop.

twattymctwatterson · 26/11/2016 21:00

He's horrible. Shouting at you in front of your kids? I suspect this shit is the tip of the iceberg

Tillyscoutsmum · 26/11/2016 21:01

Wannabe - I agree. I teach 8-9 year olds and would say there are more that believe than don't at that age.

Thank you everyone. You have confirmed what I've probably known for a while 😔

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