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Inappropriate clothing

198 replies

Mymumiswatching · 26/11/2016 13:38

I've NC'd for this as no doubt my mum will read it.

My mother took my 7year old daughter out to buy a Christmas party dress but came home with a black mini skirt and a top bearing more skin that I'd feel comfortable with on a teenager. Apparently my mother had "no choice" but to buy it because the 7year old didn't like anything else.

AIBU to think she could have said no to what is an entirely inappropriate outfit for a 7year old child?its not like my dd would have died without getting an outfit today.

And why is it that most shops can't do nice party dresses for girls beyond the age of 5? Aside from John Lewis, where is there that does age appropriate party dresses that aren't designed to sexualise and objectify young girls or turn them into a disney princess?

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lessthanBeau · 27/11/2016 17:54

My dn7 dresses like a that, crop tops, fishnet tights, full makeup including foundation! She thinks she looks like her favourite pop star, there is nothing sexual in her mind at all! However it totally shocks me when I see her and yes it does make her look like a child prostitue! Sorry but it does! It looks bloody awful and creepy, and not like dressing up for fun! If she were mine I'd explain makeup and adult clothing is for adults, but her parents are ok with it, so it's non of my business. The worst of it is she's totally gorgeous and the make up makes her look horrible.
I d be a bit Hmm at my teenage dd wearing the amount of make up I see my dn wearing!

Aeroflotgirl · 27/11/2016 18:12

serin that's your opinion, thank goodness many don't share your opinion.

limitedperiodonly · 27/11/2016 18:12

The worst of it is she's totally gorgeous

Your niece is seven lessthanBeau what does 'gorgeous' mean? How old is your teenage daughter? At 14 I wore tons of make up. Didn't mean anything. Anyone could see that under the layers of Rimmel I was 14. That's the attitude my parents took while safeguarding me from myself and others

Aeroflotgirl · 27/11/2016 18:19

What 'naice' clothes that are made for children, and not mini versions of adult clothes. Clothes that let kids be kids, and not sexua
Ise them. There are posts against the sexualisation of women in the Femanist section, and outraged, misogyny and all that, but people think it's ok to sexualise kids. Kids are kids, they have a certain autonomy, because the are not adults, they cannot make informed decisions, it's up,to,the parents or caregivers to do that. As kids get older, you allow them more freedom. That's how it is and shoukd be. Not imposing adulthood on young kids, there is a rush for them to grow up fast and be mature. They are still very little, and cannot make the decisions about themselves as teens and adults would, that includes their clothes.

TheSparrowhawk · 27/11/2016 18:29

You clearly haven't a clue what feminists mean by the sexualisation of women/children Aeroflotgirl.

BadKnee · 27/11/2016 18:43

Booboostwo - as you said - whether cothes are appropriate depends entirely on where you work. And that is the point. In a City Law firm - a suit, as you said an academic would tend to dress more casually. And that really is the point.

BadKnee · 27/11/2016 18:45

I think if a male primary teacher went to work in short shorts and a shirt open to the waist there would be complaints - so it is not just men.

BadKnee · 27/11/2016 18:46

so it is not just women. - sorry

TheSparrowhawk · 27/11/2016 19:02

Children don't generally work BadKnee

Aeroflotgirl · 27/11/2016 19:04

Don't patronise me sparrow, I think I do.

TheSparrowhawk · 27/11/2016 19:05

So do you genuinely think feminists feel it's ok to sexualise children?

Aeroflotgirl · 27/11/2016 19:14

Reading some of the posts here, it certainly seems like it. It's not ok for chikdren to wear inaporopriate clothing, especially clothing that are minature versions of adults clothes, which are designed to be alluring, and sexy. Yes it is sexualising girls at a very early age to be wearing such clothes, uncomfortable though it it may. I am shocked that some of you see no problem with it!

TeaPleaseLouise · 27/11/2016 19:20

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Aeroflotgirl · 27/11/2016 19:20

While a child is still a child, they do not have full autonomy of what they wear, they are not able to make the decision that teens or adults would make. They can choose what they like, but it's up to tge parent to veto it, if it's not appropriate!

TheSparrowhawk · 27/11/2016 19:23

Then clearly you're not getting it.

Say there is a 7 year old child and an adult man. The child chooses some clothes. The man harasses the child.

Of the two people, who should be the one to change their behaviour, the child or the man?

Aeroflotgirl · 27/11/2016 19:30

Whaat! That's not what I am talking about. Of course the man is wrong. I am talking about clothing, and that children cannot have full autonomy of it. If they choose inappropriate clothing from the shop, the parent has a right to say no, your not having that.

Aeroflotgirl · 27/11/2016 19:33

That clothing made for children are sometimes miniature versions of adult clothing, designed to be alluring and attractive, that is not what I agree children shoukd wear, and what I would get my dd who is 9. i have seen some right horrors in shops, but I have a choice not to buy them, if dd wanted them, it's a no.

Booboostwo · 27/11/2016 19:49

Clothing is one of the areas that children can easily have choice over. It gives them a sense of empowerment and strengthens the idea that they have choices over their own bodies which makes it more likely that they will be confident to say no to abusive interactions in the future. Clothes are important for a lot of people, they are an expression of their personality and it is easy to let children have freedom in this area.

Aeroflotgirl · 27/11/2016 19:53

Yes I understand that, but they are not able to have full autonomy over that. They are children after all, they can pick what they like, but if it's not appropriate it will be going back on the hanger in the shop. when they are older they can have more autonomy, that's being a parent, your not their friend, your there to guide them.

Aeroflotgirl · 27/11/2016 19:57

So if dd picked those high legged daisy duke shorts, some knee high boots and a belly top, it will be a no, she can choose from another more appropriate options.

Aeroflotgirl · 27/11/2016 20:00

Just because young children children do not get full autonomy of their clothing, does not mean they will not be able to identify abusive relationships. It runs deeper than that, and is more complex.

Aeroflotgirl · 27/11/2016 20:01

And depends on other factors.

Bravas · 27/11/2016 20:11

Matalan is good for preteens, worth having a look.

lessthanBeau · 27/11/2016 20:14

limitedperiodonly
What I mean by gorgeous, is beautiful eyes and facial features, skin tones etc but when she covers them all up with thick makeup it really looks awful and takes away from her natural beauty. You can't see a lovely 7 yr old under it. A teenager with her skin and features wouldn't use that amount! Less is more and all that. What typical 7yr old has an orange foundation line round their chin!
What would you think I meant by gorgeous relating to a child or anyone really?

lessthanBeau · 27/11/2016 20:26

I'd buy knee high boots, belly tops and daisy dukes, just not worn together! They can choose the clothes and then be guided into an appropriate look.
My dds(7) daisy dukes look totally cute with an oversized t shirt on holiday, her knee high boots look great with skinny jeans and various t shirts/shirts and her belly/crop tops are cool with her capri pants in summer. It's not really about the clothes it's how they're worn and the attitude behind them. My dn wanted to spend all day getting ready for the evening disco when we were on holiday instead of coming to the beach with us to play, it's the being too grown up in mind that worries me more than the clothes themselves, does that make sense?

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