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AIBU to wonder where Hillary is?

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Wookiecookies · 09/11/2016 12:43

Ok, sorry in advance for posting yet another election thread in AIBU so please hide post if necessary Blush but, after everything thats happened is anyone else really surprised that she didnt at least thank her supporters at the rally? There's been nothing from her at all! Confused

Its just bizarre.

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YonicProbe · 09/11/2016 17:17

I imagine she's done with politics now. And if I had the choice of sobbing through a speech like that or getting some sleep and delivering it more calmly as my 'last words' to the American people and to all those who had worked for me, I know what I'd do.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 09/11/2016 17:17

and no one even giving him a reassuring arm squeeze, a pat, or even a friendly smile to acknowledge his presence

Tbf you didn't see everyone on the stage all the time. Who knows what they were or weren't doing.

Wine all round I think.

Lorelei76 · 09/11/2016 17:18

thanks - I didn't know he had a kid that young.

Lorelei76 · 09/11/2016 17:18

I can't feel sorry for Melania, she fecking married him!

I am hoping we have not seen the last of Hillary.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 09/11/2016 17:19

I hope HC takes some time out, but still continues after.

chicken2015 · 09/11/2016 17:19

Her speech made me cry, when I heard DT his just sounds so false and seemed to back track on everything he has said in past , like we must stand together and Clinton has done so well ! Shame he wasn't like that this whole race, and he wasn't say8ng Hilary was doing well when he and his crowd was chanting Clinton in prison, I don't even live in USA but still makes me so mad!

YonicProbe · 09/11/2016 17:19

Which is why I was cross with those who thought it was arrogant or whatever for someone who'd worked their guts out to take some time to present themselves properly for the last time. Self-knowledge such as she has is a wonderful thing. She did the necessary and phoned Trump to congratulate him.

If Trump had lost, he'd've been angry and issuing challenges; sadly, that kind of emotion is more acceptable than tears from a woman.

She was able to properly thank her supporters; had she cried through the whole thing, no doubt it would've been 'all about her'. Because a woman's place is in the wrong.

Thank you, Hillary.

eddiemairswife · 09/11/2016 17:23

I thought Trump's boy looked tired. It must have been very late. How old is he?

YonicProbe · 09/11/2016 17:24

He is 10

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Wookiecookies · 09/11/2016 17:25

Having seen her speech now Yonic, I think I do get it more now. I have never seen emotion like that from her before, maybe if she had showed that side a little more over time more people would have warmed to her, its a shame.

Wine all round indeed.

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gingeroots · 09/11/2016 17:25

pontification I've been thinking that about Barron Trump ( the son ) all day .Poor kid ,I thought he was going to keel over at one point .And the bloody footage will be global and haunt him for the rest of his life .

Kept thinking of the Obma's and how Michelle would have had her arm round him .What were the Trumps thinking ?

And yes ,why an exhausted 10 year old next to DT and not his wife ?

Watch the victory speech to see www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/donald-trumps-10-year-old-9224472

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot · 09/11/2016 17:31

Agree it was a good speech.

Don't agree it lets her off the hook for departing from tradition about when to speak, though. And she and her advisers know damned well what is expected and had been planning the choreography for weeks if not months. Being ready to speak late at night is a totally predictable part requirement. For both winner and loser.

But this is one of the times when if Clinton does something it's fine, but if Trump had done it rump he'd be pilloried and it help up as an example of unstatemanlike conduct and further evidence that he wasn't suited.

GinAndTunic · 09/11/2016 17:36

OP, I wondered the same thing.

She should have gone out to thank her supporters. That she hasn't done so - even to spend five minutes thanking them for their help and support and contributions - is a real slap in the face to those who worked so hard for her.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 09/11/2016 17:37

Obamas speech just now was very very good.

randomcatname · 09/11/2016 17:47

I just think she is such a ballsy gutsy lady who has dedicated her entire life to public service. We owe her such a huge debt of gratitude. She will go down in history as a hugely important figure in the advancement of civil rights. To take on such a misoginistic character, a vile racist man like that who has never held public office, to tolerate his barbs and then to be thrown on the coals the way she has been - I think she can do WTH she wants to now.

I'm SO angry on her behalf and on behalf of all the women, girls and people of colour in the states. It's a dark day. She can give her speech when she's ready.

She's also welcome at mine for cake and a cuppa any time.

randomcatname · 09/11/2016 17:49

I mean seriously - we're bothered about when she gives her speech? Talk about missing the big picture! Can't help feeling this thread's just another symptom of the patriarchy that's landed us in this shit tbh.

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Wookiecookies · 09/11/2016 17:56

Oh random have a Biscuit you are totally over thinking my thread, I basically wondered why she didnt come out last night for the people at her rally. Simple, no hidden meaning, or unwritten undertones, if you RTHT then you will see that 'some of us' have managed to have a reasonable conversation/debate in an attempt to consider the reasons. There Is no need to overestimate my intentions or understanding by going down that road imho.

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YonicProbe · 09/11/2016 17:56

"maybe if she had showed that side a little more over time more people would have warmed to her, its a shame"

Possibly. But she's also been deemed insincere when she does show passion, I think.

Bill, Barack and Michelle all have more charisma than her, I would say. But at this point in time, she was the most experienced person ever to run for the presidency.

At present, it looks like she just squeaked the popular vote by a couple of hundred thousand; plenty of people liked her, just not quite enough.

BaggyCheeks · 09/11/2016 17:57

Missing the point of the thread entirely, I thought youngest Trump's name was Barron?

midsomermurderess · 09/11/2016 18:00

It reminds me of people saying of Gordon Brown, if we had seen more of his family people might have disliked him less. I don't think Hillary Clinton's defeat is down to her being insufficiently warm, or not much to do with that.

YonicProbe · 09/11/2016 18:03

It's been a long time since the Democrats had consecutive presidents; it's partly in the nature of US politics that it swings from one side to the other (indeed, IIRC, Gore won the popular vote and it looks like Hillary mnght too).

MrsFinkelstein · 09/11/2016 18:05

That was a fabulous speech, at least she can take some solace in the fact she won the popular vote, and she's definitely put some cracks in that glass ceiling.

It's proved that America is more sexist than it is racist still in many places (and it's pretty damn racist still).

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 09/11/2016 18:12

Sorry random should everyone run their ideas for threads past you first to see if the meet your approval Hmm

NoBarbaraGood · 09/11/2016 18:17

This is the first MN thread I have read in the aftermath. I'm in the US. I voted for Hillary. I was surprised and bitterly disappointed by the election outcome. I was wondering why HRC hadn't come forward until now.

She gave an amazing speech.

How many of us think that DT would have done the same? I honestly think we'd be looking at weeks of "rigged election" rhetoric at the very least.

Jeez.