Trump has won 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[jdoe8]

WTF have I woken up to? Everyone is calling it for trump 😭😭😭😭😭

I'm still have trouble sleeping after brexit and now this 😭😭😭😭

FTSE due to open 4% lower on pre trading, well done.

I have concerns about Trump but also had concerns about Clinton.

Yet again MN reacts to major news with a "Look how clever we are are and stupid people have voted otherwise". Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves

The vote was only advisory, they can probably go for a second election before he ever becomes president.

MsHoolies

Compared to this train wreck Brexit looks like you dropped your icecream

I'm not suggesting he is actually assassinated. But I did have a fleeting thought as I processed what's happened, in a 'what if' sort of way. It is likely to be a very volatile time as just about every time DT opens his mouth, he says something to offend, and he has some very volatile supporters. I do agree that a challenge through the courts about his personal dealings will be more likely. How he hasn't been jailed for tax evasion is completely beyond me.

People are idiots, unfortunately it's not the electorate it's those who have the hysterical reaction to democracy because they don't get what they want.

However, I also think a large part of the vote against Clinton (including women voters) is simply because people do not want a female President .

aero. Agree. Some posters need to wake up a bit. It's not just 'thick' white men who brought this result about. Obama failed to protect the poorest and most vunerable, who had such faith in him. Remarks about the 'stupidity' of Americans is just as xenophobic as some of Trump's comments. I actually think the American education system is superior to our own, and if I hear one one comment equating 'poor' with 'lack of intelligence', I'll scream!

This was the first election without the full protection of the 1965 Voting Rights Act. (It hasn't been repealed. One section of it was declared unconstitutional in the Shelby ruling of 2013, but it was a very important provision). I'm a 20th century US historian (working on civil rights history) and believe that the various new voting requirements that have made it through since 2013 have made a clear difference in disfranchising minorities. People keep saying that 50% of Americans have voted Trump; they haven't. 50% of those people who were able to vote yesterday put Trump in the White House.

I think (& hope) the Republican Party is going to splinter along anti/pro Trump lines. I really wouldn't be surprised if Trump is assassinated.

Surely there should be a law that states if you've got an upcoming trial coming up, or have ever had runnings with the law (none the less for the things Trump has been in trouble for) then you shouldn't be able to run for presidency.

The baltics and putin are what makes some Americans angry and vote for Trump. why is it upto the US when most of NATO countries do not contribute the agreed levels. There is also belief the new or relatively new immigration are one group who are open for further immigration and a vote certainty when like all the population a group of many views. I blame the lack of debate, the safe space attitude is leading to hardened posturing and if people can not speak of fears they react in other ways. Governments no longer seem to know the feelings in communities as they no longer listen, Clinton did not listen

Who has a trial coming up bestof? Clinton certainly doesn't.

Apparently Jemster, people on here, predictably, are resorting to the 'everyone who voted Trump must be intellectually challenged'. They are clearly not fit to vote, and they should be stripped of their right to vote immediately as punishment for their stupidity. Only the super intelligent (??) should be allowed anywhere near a voting booth, as other people are clearly not fit to be allowed a vote.

perhaps Mexico will get that wall now..
.. as long as they pay for it!!

I feel we've been heading this way for a long time. USA and UK are getting richer every year but the poor of these countries are getting poorer, they don't feel the wealth but they see what other people have, it's in their faces everyday. The haves don't want to share - the ladders have been pulled up and "the haves scream swim if you can and if you can't fuck you!" The same type of poor desperate people who voted Brexit, voted for Trump because they had tried it the other way and it didn't work...no one gives a shit about them. Ironically they think the very wealthy Trump may start to pass the serving plate down to their end, or extend the ladder a bit - how utterly, desperately, misguided can you be! And yes, this has echoes of Hilter's rise - stirring up hatred against minorities, deflect blame from the wealthy - let the poor fight over the scraps.
Be suspicious of intellectuals and trust the narrow minded uneducated - what have they got to lose?

Yes, to the Baltic states being at peril from Putin. This will now happen.

But hey, that's democracy!

The court case in December will be huge, a chance that he could be convicted of raping a 13 year old.

Those people hoping for Trump's assassination should feel ashamed. In fact assassination is a real possibility as history will tell you.
If I was a US citizen I would have voted for Hillary but I would have held my nose.

And please remember that the UK democratically elected a man who has had sexual relations with the porcine species and set fire to £50 notes in front of the homeless for 'a laugh' - oh, and chose a chancellor who barely see straight in the House of Commons because he was fucked off his head on coke.

Middle America has spoken in the same way as middle Britain spoke in June. That's the deal with democracy. Clearly, Trump has a great deal of popular support whether we like it or not, and people want change.

All we can do is go with it and keep our fingers crossed.

Apparently the Canadian immigration website has crashed.

And history shows America has a history of swinging from the Left to the Right. Look at 1968. Nixon was elected after a massive expansion of the welfare state under LBJ. In fact, Trump alluded to Nixon's campaign as speaking for the Silent Majority by using a very similar phrase. (forgotten majority I think)

The people who elected Trump are not stupid. I accept the result- I have to, as do my American relatives who will be shocked and very sad. I'm worried about how he will deal with things but we'll have to see.

Liveliest... I grew up surrounded by staunch Labour supporters and there was never any talk of how 'some' people shouldn't be allowed to vote because they didn't meet a certain criteria.
But since Brexit I have heard so many chilling phrases come out of the mouths of socalledclabour supporters ,such as
"Some people aren't intelligent enough to vote''
"People aren't rich enough''
""Theyre not the right type of people's
The worst and most patronising one is
""They don't understand what they're voting for''

It's a very dangerous way to treat people -( as if some are lesser than others,and their voices shouldn't be heard.) and once you have that attitude towards people you have lost the plot of what a true labourcsupporter is,all about.

There's been a fair vote and Trump has won.
He reminds me of us boss I had years ago, none of us liked him, but he got the job done.

How depressing. Thick hillbillies

It's that kind of attitude that made people want to vote for him. The same happened with Brexit.

I'm surprised but not shocked. I have people on my fb the US and they think Clinton is unpleasant but trump is far worse. So they reluctantly vote for her because she's the less worse of the two. Not because she's a good candidate in their eyes.

A lot of the social media posts have said the same thing as well. Between two disliked candidates, a lot of people just went for the lesser of two evils (whomever that was in their mind).

Shame they only get two options really.