Trump has won 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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WTF have I woken up to? Everyone is calling it for trump 😭😭😭😭😭

I'm still have trouble sleeping after brexit and now this 😭😭😭😭

FTSE due to open 4% lower on pre trading, well done.

LittleLion - Your grandfather was one of the liberators, but both my parents were in German slave labour camps for 6 yrs each before they were released. My mother was beaten and kept short of food. Her camp was Lippstadt.

Yes, both - do you really think people younger than you haven't heard of the Nazis? (patronizing, if not plain dumb). And do you really think they were 'the equivalent of the Labour party'? (horseshit).

Yes, both - do you really think people younger than you haven't heard of the Nazis? (patronizing, if not plain dumb). And do you really think they were 'the equivalent of the Labour party'? (horseshit).

PC means a total rejection of the politics of hatred, division and intolerance

Then it should apply to the behaviour of every newcomer to the USA and UK. Instead we/they allow pockets of desperately bad attitudes and behaviour to flourish, beliefs that are out of step by about 200 years continue to the next generation.

Which only serves to make your apparent acceptance of fascist ideology ever more bizarre Southall.

SeekEvery To me you sound fascistic.

LittleLion Where is my acceptance of fascism? Point it out to me.

There's an inherent contradiction in railing against "PC" while also railing against people being characterised as being ignorant, racist, etc.

Do I really. If you'd like to explain how, I'd be fascinated.

I think anyone who has been affected by any extreme political view point should be wary of - extreme political view points and that includes the far right and also the Far Left.
It concerns me that the far left is let off the hook?

Is the Far Left OK in some way? Why do they never get a mention?

"National Socialist German Workers' Party? That was the equivalent to today's Labour Party" Bless...... are you purposefully spreading misinformation or are you just naive?

Southall No, I don't respond to 'orders that must be obeyed'. It will be clear enough to those who have stuck with the thread and seen your previous comments. I'm not here to provide you with an aide memoire.

But could you please explain what 'fascistic' is? Do you mean someone who dislikes fascists? If so, I think you have a great sense of humour.

Is the Far Left OK in some way? Why do they never get a mention?

Well, I suppose nobody's talking about them because they haven't been much in evidence in the two main political events under discussion.

Looking forward to hearing about why I'm 'fascistic' though!

south the only party during the weimar republic that was remotely comparable to today's labour party was SPD btw.

also:
" Adolf Hitler prohibited the party in 1933 under the Enabling Act – party officials were imprisoned, killed or went into exile. In exile, the party used the name Sopade."

You are a funny egg South

Bless...... are you purposefully spreading misinformation or are you just naive?

Or both. Both is a good option.

The electorate wait to hear what people on the internet will think of them, and if it's bad, they put their fingers in their ears? Maybe they should listen to what the people they're electing are saying, instead, then.

The electorate = the people doing the electing. I think you mean the Democratic party, who did not listen to what people were saying and got a pasting in the election. And rather than listen, they are going on the attack characterising those who did not vote for their candidate as fascists, bigots, haters, uneducated etc. During the 18-month campaign, I did not see one Democrat entertain - even for a moment - that their candidate would lose, so smug and arrogant were they. I did read, however, predictions that this election would be the end of the Republican party as it would splinter. I am willing to bet that they find the election of their candidate rejuvenating.

Politicians and people disappointed by election results need to remember that voters sometimes vote against a party or candidate, not necessarily for them.

If the Democrats don't change and continue with their superior patronising treatment of a large swathe of the population, they risk alienating their would-be supporters.

*South the only party during the Weimar republic that was remotely comparable to today's labour party was SPD btw.

From wiki for easy info gathering:
"Adolf Hitler prohibited the party (SPD) in 1933 under the Enabling Act – party officials were imprisoned, killed or went into exile."

You are a funny egg South either spreading misinformation due to laziness or naivety or both

Looking forward to hearing about why I'm 'fascistic' though!

Erm. Because you don't agree with some of the opinions expressed here so your opponents have to resort to insults and hyperbole rather than address your points?

I'm confused by the definition of fascism being used...it doesn't seem to correlate with Mussolini's definition - the founder of fascism.
One eg
Fascism combats the whole complex system of democratic ideology, and repudiates it, whether in its theoretical premises or in its practical application. Fascism denies that the majority, by the simple fact that it is a majority, can direct human society; it denies that numbers alone can govern by means of a periodical consultation
On this basis some of the people on this thread are Fascists - the ones who are talking about 'stupid' voters... who shouldn't be allowed to direct human society...
and this
The foundation of Fascism is the conception of the State, its character, its duty, and its aim. Fascism conceives of the State as an absolute, in comparison with which all individuals or groups are relative, only to be conceived of in their relation to the State is actually reminiscent of the current 'establishment' - the political elite.
Fascism (like communism) is about an all powerful state - a dictator. Trump (and indeed Brexit) seem to be more about the voices of the majority being heard - over the control of the state...
Interesting times...

I don't respond to 'orders that must be obeyed

Oh dear, very touchy. Cant point out one post, OK. The opinions expressed in your postings are totalitarian and undemocratic. The Americans had a democratic election, the result is in. The electoral system can perhaps be improved but that's what it is now. Get over it.

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To me you sound fascistic.

To me, you sound unhinged and ill-informed.

Correction: you sound unhinged but you are ill-informed. Those pesky facts, eh?

You may be too young, but do you know of the National Socialist German Workers' Party? That was the equivalent to today's Labour Party

Southall, with that claim alone you totally destroy any semblance of knowledge or credibility in your arguments.

Doesn't she just serendipidity it had me lol. Shocking really how people can be so very badly misinformed yet be so unaware of it, i guess that's called ignorance and we all know why Trump, Farage etc. get away with the blindingly obviously power games they are playing because of people being shockingly and blatantly ignorant.

Ah, I see we have now resorted to the 'get over it' tactics of the playground Southall. I thought you were supposed to be older than most of us here. Proof if ever was needed that age does not necessarily equate to wisdom.

[Disengage LittleLionMansMummy, disengage, nothing of value can be found here]

The electorate = the people doing the electing. I think you mean the Democratic party, who did not listen to what people were saying and got a pasting in the election

I know what the electorate is, and that's who I mean! If the argument is that Trump voters voted Trump because they are annoyed that people think they're stupid (which is what South seemed to be saying), I find it unconvincing, that somehow it's everyone else's fault for thinking those people are stupid and that makes them vote stupidly!