Trump has won 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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WTF have I woken up to? Everyone is calling it for trump 😭😭😭😭😭

I'm still have trouble sleeping after brexit and now this 😭😭😭😭

FTSE due to open 4% lower on pre trading, well done.

I read that Spiked article which was insightful. However the comments underneath made me very angry. It's like all the below the line hateful trolls have taken over. I find it very frightening. And feel so helpless. And now decent progressive, forward thinking people are being blamed for his success due to " political correctness" ( ie treating pp who are not white men with respect ) 😰😰😰

I hope this is the end of 2 party politics in America so there are no more elections where people vote for the least worse option in their view.

Me too. The two parties have converged in all respects except for their silly, red-herring 'packaging' e.g. 'we support gay rights' and 'we oppose abortion'.

These things are not important because they're trivial, but rather because they don't cost any money.

Hopefully trump does a good job.

It seems to me they have elected someone with no political history or knowledge and hope that he learns fast on what he fought to be.

It's not worse than Brexit, he'll be out in 4 years tops, and probably a lot less when he realises what the job actually entails.

Claig, if you're out there, would you mind telling me what this week's lottery numbers are?

Totally shocked at the outcome. But others saw it coming. People are simply not seeing politics or politicians in the way they used to.

Hopefully trump does a good job.

The democratic paradox .

Now he's actually there, we'd be mad to want him to do a bad job ...

I can't help thinking that Trump's going to probably hate being president when he finally gets into office and discovers all the checks & balances mean that he'll not get his own way all the time like he's used to.

Is he really going to put all his businesses into a blind trust for the next 4 years? Will he be able to pull his fingers out of all those pies?

Will they let him decorate the White House like Trump Towers?

We've been spoiled by the Obamas. There have been plenty dodgy Presidents in the past and there will be in the future. There's no love lost between Trump and the GOP so they'll keep him in line - unfortunately the downside is that they are considerably more socially conservative than him and so the line they'll keep isn't very palatable either.

www.buchanobserver.co.uk/news/aberdeenshire-business-owner-wins-presidential-election-1-4282745
A news scoop from the Buchan Observer. Funny headline.

At least he'll be staying away from Ayrshire. That's got to be a small consolation.

Wasn't too worried about Trump winning as he will have people to rein him in. Sort of expected it. The comment on BBC last night that did really surprise and worry me was that to push the button, a president only has to confirm their identity.

That's not true is it??

I think it's a glorious victory. I put a £600 bet on him last week and have won a pile of cash too. Could not be happier.

As Trump would say - SO MUCH WINNING!

*AyGirl Wed 09-Nov-16 15:51:25

Hitler 2 is coming, My children need protecting from this hatred.*

So Im afraid educated brexitters for me, will always be the exception, not the rule. Plus the polls tend to show that too.

How is this true Birdy ?

Of graduates (one measure of education) 57% voted remain and 43% leave. That's a lot of leave voting graduates to be an "exception".

Trump won and has to be given a chance. People seem to be angry with democracy when the result doesn't go their way, but personally I'd rather live in a democratic country than an outright totalitarian one.

"Normal" people are sick of traditional politicians, especially the traditional "shut the fuck up and do as your told" viewpoint. People are protesting at the ballot box and are more enthused about politics than in many years - they actually believe that their vote can make a difference. Brexit - normal people rebelled against the unified view from the traditional parties, parties who had lied to them over and over. Corbyn - normal people rebelled against the Blair/Brown/Miliband "everyone is equal, but some people are more equal than others" mantra of the Labour party in recent years. The SNP sweeping Scotland - normal people sick of the bullshit from Westminster.

Now it's the turn of the US to reject the career politician, to reject the view that normal people should shut the fuck up and do as their told. Trump is an unlikely saviour and unlikely to be a saviour, but normal people are sick of their living standards falling while the political elite get richer.

And on the plus side, the world has dodged Hillary. She was not the saviour and could never have been. Her statement that America "is more divided than we realise" is beyond belief - how on earth was she so obsessed with her own hype not to have realised how deep the divisions are?

I suspect that Trump will not prove to be as catastrophic as many predict, just as Clinton would not have been so overwhelmingly wonderful as many predicted.

www.huffingtonpost.com/tobias-stone/history-tells-us-what-will-brexit-trump_b_11179774.html

Woodlander

Ah - the 'biscuit'.

Yes - it's more or less true, I'm afraid.

Gin you beat me to it.

Children need protecting = best hyperbole laugh of the day so far.

Poor old Melania - she's looks like the most reluctant First Lady (though that might just be the Botox effect kicking in ), I'll bet she was hoping for a swift divorce post election, but now she'll have to stick it out for 4 more years.....

And the link that there is between voting in the referendum and education is not simple in any case. Some people seem to be implying its a case of

educated = clever = made the right choice

versus

uneducated = not so clever = answered the referendum question wrong.

But it really is not that. As mephistopheles put it

A higher education is a benefit of wealth, which is a sign that you are a beneficiary of the status quo. A lack of education is a symptom of disenfranchisement

There are many differences between more and less educated groups of people and it seems unlikely that their interests and place in society will be the same. It's interesting that more highly educated people in generally lower educated areas voted more like their less educated neighbours (ie more likely leave). Why is that then?

Thanks for the link Sparrow
I urge everyone to read the article by Tobias Stone .For those who think that Trump's
election poses little threat

Melania looks dead inside, she must disassociate to cope with being married to a monster.

Melania is thinking 'oh fuck, now I need to make my robotic speeches on a daily basis. All I wanted was an elderly sugar daddy with a short life expectancy'.

Something happens and there's the prospect of missiles flying in 20 minutes. Do you really think that Mr Ryan or congressional elections are going to matter? The man will be Commander in Chief.

Good grief. A comment so staggeringly ignorant of how the military works is the most hyperbolic of hyperbolic comments yet.

Have a round of applause, poster. And then pull your head out of whatever orifice you are storing it in.