Trump has won 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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WTF have I woken up to? Everyone is calling it for trump 😭😭😭😭😭

I'm still have trouble sleeping after brexit and now this 😭😭😭😭

FTSE due to open 4% lower on pre trading, well done.

You do realise that the vast majority of people on this thread don't actually live in the US and haven't "lost" any vote. People are entitled to have a view on those that voted for Trump

^^This. But also, for a site that's predominantly women, far from being 'sore losers' many will rightly think that sexual assault dressed up as 'locker room banter' belongs back in the annals of history, not modern day politics. Let's not forget that this man has a string of sexual assault accusations (including one allegedly involving a 13yo) hanging over him. At the very least his words show a chilling disregard for the rights of women. Damn right I'm fucking angry that so many people voted for him.

I am appalled at the comments alluding to assassination and how 'I wouldn't want to be his bodyguard right now'. The only people who would want to kill Trump are liberals. Doesn't say much for the left, does it?

He must be an extremely high risk of assassination. He has been extremely offensive towards a huge amount of people, both in his country and elsewhere. it wouldn't surprise me at all if he was gotten rid of somehow before he annihilates the human race.

Hillingdon,- the majority of the posters have problems with Trump, the man. A racist , misogynist

Sometimes we need to look at what people where voting against and not what they are voting for. The political establishment and the left do seem to have difficulties with this. Clinton lost the vote as much as Trump won. Clinton to some stands for everything they want to change but she was so self absorbed to even see herself a problem as for her she was the solution if only the deplorable Americans (the people she is trying to win over) could just see it.

I would love to see Angela Merkel talking to Trump the first time. She takes no shit

This is the verbose statement from Corbyn.

"Many in Britain and elsewhere will be understandably shocked by Donald Trump’s victory in the US presidential election, the rhetoric around it and what the election result means for the rest of the world, as well as America.

Trump’s election is an unmistakable rejection of a political establishment and an economic system that simply isn’t working for most people. It is one that has delivered escalating inequality and stagnating or falling living standards for the majority, both in the US and Britain.

This is a rejection of a failed economic consensus and a governing elite that has been seen not to have listened. And the public anger that has propelled Donald Trump to office has been reflected in political upheavals across the world.

But some of Trump’s answers to the big questions facing America, and the divisive rhetoric around them, are clearly wrong.

I have no doubt, however, that the decency and common sense of the American people will prevail, and we send our solidarity to a nation of migrants, innovators and democrats.

After this latest global wake up call, the need for a real alternative to a failed economic and political system could not be clearer.

That alternative must be based on working together, social justice and economic renewal, rather than sowing fear and division. And the solutions we offer have to improve the lives of everyone, not pit one group of people against another.

Americans have made their choice. The urgent necessity is now for us all to work across continents to tackle our common global challenges: to secure peace, take action on climate change and deliver economic prosperity and justice."

What the fuck is he on about? Seriously.

Let's not forget that this man has a string of sexual assault accusations (including one allegedly involving a 13yo) hanging over him.

Gosh. Good thing that there haven't been any sex scandals involving Democrats, isn't it!

Oh and if he could take fucking Farage with him the world would be eternally grateful. That bloke is the anti-christ I swear.

Has May congratulated him? Seriously? What the actual fuck?

What would you have her do?? It would be madness to start off on a bad foot with Trump. He won, fair and square, and we have to accept that, however much you (and I) might personally dislike the result.

Right backatcha Gin

TM doesn't have any choice. Trump is the president elect.

I don't like Trump (understatement) but I'm actually very pleased that his party has won. If Hilary had won, nothing would have changed. We need changes and America needs changes.

I think Donald will be "reigned in" by his party.

This and Brexit are wake up calls to the politicians who have been self serving only. The people have spoken and world powers are now starting - at last - to listen.

A vote for Trump isn't a vote for a positive platform for change. It's a vote for kicking other people - Muslims, Mexicans - in the name of making a nation 'great again'.

I have a great deal of empathy for the white working class, who have seen their incomes stagnate and the places where they live deteriorate. However, the problem isn't immigration. It's CAPITALISM, in particular the new phase of it into which we are moving where the engine is in the developing world, where automation is reducing the number of jobs that are available, and where there is an increasing chasm between crap zero hour service jobs and specialist graduate work. The whole essence of capitalism is that some people make profit off the labour of others - i.e. that workers generate value but are paid less than the whole value of the product they make, be that a commodity or a service. The result is that the poor get poorer while the rich get richer. It is a system that is inherently and irremediably unfair, because some people are essentially arrogating part of the value created by others to themselves.

But those who are negatively impacted have been trained by a dog-whistling media owned by the wealthy to kick those underneath them who are perceived as 'threats'. It feels good to be angry, to have hate, when you're down - when you don't feel great about yourself, beating up on someone else can be a way of asserting your identity. The more productive strategy for them in terms of actually improving their lot, however, would be to look up the social ladder and demand fair redistribution from those who have far too much because they have been creaming off the surplus value that the poorer classes have produced.

This is why I think the radical right are misguided. They totally have a justified case for making demands of the system, for saying their lot is unfair. Because the assertion of identity in the ways suggested by Trump can never, ever really sort out the problems of capitalism. It's like trying to mend a flat tyre with a garden spade, simply the wrong tool for the job.

Another huge issue is that we have lost social science analysis from mainstream popular discourse and from the media. As a result, people's capacity to understand the world at a kind of systemic level has been severely depleted. A highly individualist politics fills the void (with 'hard work' and 'moral values' as its fulcrum). It's no wonder that we are seeing a 'post-truth' 'post-evidence' politics as a result.

I don't like the assassination talk either - just adds to the atmosphere of hatred & violence & vitriol. Nor would it improve anything.

But wasn't it always rumoured that the it would be the CIA doing the assassinating (rather than a lone liberal gunman) if he became a big threat to world security? (That may be the David Icke school of politics talking though).

People voting for Trump was predictable. If you think your life is shit and nobody cares about you, anything that shakes up the status quo is appealing. Add to that powerful and manipulative people who want to make use of your anger for their own gain and you get to where we are in the world in 2016. The stupidity started years ago, it isn't the fault of stupid voters, now. It's like a pressure cooker exploding - inevitable.

Well, no one ever went broke underestimating intelligence. Thing is, to do ANYTHING as President, good or evil, you have to put the hours in. The Shrub, apart from Gulf 2, didnt get much done because he worked a 40 hour week. Obama ran round the clock, against a hostile Congress, and probably achieved about 20% of his targets.
The idea that Trump will show up on time after his first 3 months is ridiculous. There's also the little matter of his pending trials: all his cheated suppliers and customers are going to find their suits fully funded, not to mention the criminal stuff. I would also expect him to commit his first sexual assault in office quite soon. Then there's the CIA who have indicated he might not actually make it to the inauguration.
Enjoy the cheap dollar, and sit tight.

I knew this was going to happen because their campaigns were just the same as brexit. The reasons why the polls didn't show it. Is because people were made to feel so ashamed about their view points that instead of open honest debate or discussion they became the silent majority.
I didn't like either candidate & felt sorry for America cause whoever they voted in wouldn't be good. Trumps an offensive idiot I admit I don't know a lot about American politics but I'm hoping that it's true the president is more of a figure head & the power still lies with the Senate

But the assertion of identity, not because!

Trump, as president of the USA, I just hope the people who voted for him don't regret their decision. I'm so very glad I'm not American & don't live there.

We cant really criticize the democratic process, America got what America wanted.

Time to stop looking to America and build a strong Europe for ourselves.

Well, errr, hang on wait a minute....

Perhaps it is good if America starts keeping to themselves and dont involve themselves in other peoples wars..... Wait.. Umm.

Hillingdon it is nothing to do with leftist whingers it is do with people being shocked that someone who spouts hate and violence is now the president of America. It is not a left or right issue it is a human issue there are many people waking up in America this morning less safe then they were yesterday and that is unforgivable.

Elendon what do you not understand about Corbyns speech? Most sensible thing I've read so far today.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/03/why-jeremy-corbyn-donald-trump

And Corbyn will ensure he never gets elected if he openly supports Trump

I think that Corbyn's speech was spot-on. I'm not sure if your question was rhetorical, but my reading was that he basically said;

• we are shocked
• it's clear that people are rejecting established political elites (governments that fuck up / treat people badly)
• the little person is also beginning to realise that capitalism is fucked as far as the majority goes.
• Trump's election (like Brexit) reflects this.
• It was the wrong decision by a bunch of people who are currently doing facepalm.
• most of these people are decent, just misguided and duped.
• There are bigger issues of climate change, globalisation and social justice that call for a communitarian approach (for us to work together)
• we must build bridges and not dig ditches.

I love Corbyn (Yeah, I know I'm alone).