To be aghast if Trump loses?

[PlanIsNoPlan]

Is there actually an Asylum big enough to take him and his ego? What will he do? How will he recover from his defeat? I'm also worried about Hill's voice - she'll have to do her acceptance speech just smiling knowingly.

[Anniegetyourgun]

Clinton. - A loathsome liar.

In what way is Trump not a loathsome liar?

[BertrandRussell]

Why is she a loathesome liar in a way that all politicians are and have to be?

[LowDudgeon]

I bet most of VladimirsPooTin's (& others) anti-Hillary 'evidence' comes from Macedonia

www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/how-macedonia-became-a-global-hub-for-pro-trump-misinfo?utm_term=.ma1bRbAkP#.xgkL0LMaK

[DotForShort]

Trump lies constantly. And then he denies what he has patently just said.

Seriously, I can understand objections to Clinton's policies (I disagree with her on a number of issues). But to position her as a liar when it is entirely clear that Trump lies every time he opens his mouth? That is ludicrous.

[LowDudgeon]

131 massive lies from Trump in one week

[ChangingNamesAgain]

Why does Bill Clinton being accused of sexual assault have an bearing of Hilary? Since when is a woman responsible for her husbands abusive actions? And in comparrison to Trump admission of sexual assault?

The Pilger article mostly refers to Obama's actions, not directly to Hilery's. Her profit for arms dealing wouldn't exactly be unusual for an American president, however corrupt it maybe. Her callous remarks and forgien affair issues are vile ofcourse, but I somehow think there's more horror applied to this in the press because she's a woman than there is to all Trump's disablist/racist/mysoginistic/etc remarks which seem so expected of a rich white male republican that they are barely noticed. She's a cunt alright but atleast she doesn't go around sexually assaulting women and saying she'd like to fuck her daughter.

[LowDudgeon]

Because she supposedly belittled some of the women

Politifact: Trump says Clinton viciously attacked those who charged abuse by Bill
By Jon Greenberg
October 10, 2016

Trump said that Hillary Clinton “viciously” attacked women accused of abuse by Bill Clinton.
Bill Clinton certainly has been accused of sexual assault and having affairs. The record shows Hillary Clinton played a role in defending her husband, and that the Clintons’ first presidential campaign deployed tough tactics to defend against stories of consensual sex.
But in the cases of alleged abuse by Broaddrick, Willey and Jones, Hillary Clinton was largely silent. The words she allegedly had with Broaddrick are subject to interpretation. Approving the release of Willey’s letters does qualify as an attack, but using a person’s words against them is a fairly tame tactic. And Clinton did not attack Jones directly.

Overall, we rate the claim Mostly False.

[BishopBrennansArse]

He'll run around screaming of a fix. Won't go quietly that's for sure.

Might scare that cat on his head...

[Lweji]

He'll run around screaming of a fix

Yes. DT losing can be just as dangerous for democracy as him winning.

[flowersandsunshine]

Both Pilger and Assange have some big issues of their own. Unsurprising that Assange is supporting a fellow sexual abuser.

Seriously, how dim or corrupt do you have to be to think that Trump would be a better anything than anyone. The guy is insane. Not a good quality in a President.

[ChangingNamesAgain]

Yes TRUMP SAID she 'viciously attacked' them

If someone accused my partner & i believed 100% they were lying or knew they were I'm pretty sure that, as a victim of abuse myself that I wouldn't be too polite about them. She obviously didn't littlerally attack them or she would have been arrested- but Trump bragged her acctually physically assaulted women.

I wouldn't be surprised if many women covered up their husbands affairs, or weren't honest about them. Doesn't effect their ability to do their job. He cheated, not her, he may or may not have sexually abased women, she didn't. And she isn't to blame for what her husband does. On the other hand Trump DID assault women and brag about it. And say he would fuck his daughter. And that his other daughter has great ass and tits. And that women shouldn't be allowed to work. And that abortion should be illegal. And that he would deport anyone whow wasn't a real (white) American. And that he would build a 25 billion pound wall to keep out the mexicans. And that he would make them pay for it. All said as part of this campaign/during it.

[Pluto30]

If you truly think that Assange is guilty of anything sex-related flowers, you're barking.

He hasn't been charge with any crime in Sweden, but the US wants him extradited to Sweden so that he can then be extradited from there to the US to face charges.

[ThisIsReallyNotMyName]

I hope he wins so we can avoid that corrupt, lying sociopath woman getting in.

[BishopBrennansArse]

I think the choice the Americans have is rather like having to choose your favourite from the Bristol Stool Chart.

[RufusTheSpartacusReindeer]

lowdudgeon

I have been looking at these trump/clinton threads for quite a while now

Its full of people saying she is as bad or worse...and none of them back it up with inconvertible evidence

[DotForShort]

I hope he wins so we can avoid that corrupt, lying sociopath woman getting in.

There's only one corrupt, lying sociopath on the ballot this year. Hint: it ain't Hillary.

[allegretto]

It can be quite hard for the ordinary person to work out who is telling the truth and who is stretching it. Luckily with Trump it is easy because he
contradicts HIMSELF with embarrassing frequency. I really do not understand how anyone can believe he is an honest candidate and will actually do anything he is promising to do.

[LowDudgeon]

no criminality in the emails AGAIN

shame the FBI didn't go through them before announcing they'd got them, long enough before the election to give Trump a significant bounce. Even so he will probably claim now this is "crooked Hillary" rigging the FBI.

[EnthusiasmDisturbed]

It's good news

But of course either way Trump will use it

Why didn't they do this months ago

[wasonthelist]

Yes. DT losing can be just as dangerous for democracy as him winning

Not really - the US recovered from the hanging chads fiasco.

[wasonthelist]

If you truly think that Assange is guilty of anything sex-related flowers, you're barking.

Were you there?

He hasn't been charge with any crime in Sweden, but the US wants him extradited to Sweden so that he can then be extradited from there to the US to face charges

Swedish Police have issued an arrest warrant and extradition proceedings. Originally he was accused of sexual assault and rape, they have dropped the assault charges as they are now time-barred by Swedish Law as they were not able to interview him in time. The Swedish Police still want to talk to him about the rape allegation.

How are you so sure he has zero case to answer exactly?

[nooka]

Pluto if the US wanted to extradite Assange they could have done so when he was in the UK. The UK has extradition treaties with the UK and has sent them a number of people in the past.

Given the Russian interest in this election and their known cyber attacks, the ties that Trump is alleged to have and Snowdon's current residence I think Wikileaks very one sided broadcasts of what are mostly pretty benign emails from the Clinton side compared to nothing on Trump is highly fishy. Trump is far from being squeaky clean, putting aside what comes out of his mouth look at the very dodgy company he keeps. I'd bet that the Alt-right have plenty of very unpleasant emails of their own and I doubt very much that they are so secure that no one can hack them.

[flowersandsunshine]

I read interviews at the time with the women involved in the Assange rape case. What he did sounded v dodgy to me.

He's proved that he's no Snowden, for sure. He has leaked stuff with no thought of the effect it would have on innocent people. He appears to have been involved in trying to fix the election for Trump, so I will not be remotely bothered if he is extradited and has to face American justice.

[LowDudgeon]

the hanging chads thing is another stick Trump tries to use to beat Hillary with - "look, she's a poor loser, she says elections are rigged" (& in that case she's probably not wrong . Sad to imagine how different the world might be now if Gore had won)

Hanging chads could still be a thing apparently, in a close call (& Florida will still be a key state):

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/15/2016-election-old-voting-machines-hanging-chad

There's already been a reported incident of an armed Trump supporter patrolling a polling station. He's outside the legal distance & in an open carry state so he can't be stopped.

www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/armed-man-donald-trump-shirt-harasses-va-mom-polling-site-article-1.2859605

[Cherrysoup]

Don't you think Trump is going to pull some bonkers stunt tomorrow to win last minute points? I see a lot of naysayers telling is that Hilary is a lying sociopath, but Trump lies all the time and seems to know nothing about politics. He's only in the running because he has money: how is that a good presidential candidate?

Loved how he was bundled off stage in Nevada, clearly wetting himself!