To continue to wonder who is happy with where Brexit is heading

[Bearbehind]

Whilst I'm sure Leavers will undoubtedly think AIBU the last thread filled up so here's another 1000 opportunities to discuss what you think about where Brexit is heading.

No they were bears words.
Yet, the search for that string of words only brought up your own post

Yes they were my words from about 4 seperate posts merged into an incoherent sentance.

I looked back over my posts last night and I was nowhere near as goady as you were. Your posting style is deliberately provactive in order to get a reaction.

I mean who actually thinks it's appropriate to say 'fetch' as if I'm a dog?

Back to the subject though

1. I'm sure those who received a minimum wage increase don't see this as a cushion, it's a neccesity and will already have been accounted for

2. sterlings slide hasn't been fully factored into inflation yet.

3. it doesn't come from Carney, it's basic economics, the cost of imports is increasing and anything produced in the UK will increase if it requires imported inputs, not least oil.

4. where 'may' these benefits come from?

5. do you really think that will be a priority for the government whilst they're trying to deal with the process of extracting us from the EU

Finally, what about my questions on trade being affected if FOM stops?

To be fair to Carney, institutions such as JP Morgan and Barclays have forecast increased rates of inflation.

Food prices are also tempered by the fact that supermarkets have long term price deals with producers, so the impact of price rises might not be felt until 2017.

My questions first.

And I don't accept your responses at all.

Gideon why don't you wArn bear about unpleasantness now she admitted it.

Bear why is uk property a prime investment if the country is going down the plug hole?

Because it's cheap for foreign investors and can be rented to those who can't afford to buy but need somewhere to live

Why did we not plunge into immediate recession?

Because recessions don't happen overnight and we haven't left yet so we're in limbo. Recession predictions were based on a50 being triggered on 24th June

Why does no one consider a halving of interest rates to have any role on the sterling dip?

Because sterling fell off a cliff on 24th June, before interest rates were cut. On the night the results started coming in, sterling surged in anticipation of a Remain win.

Your turn ww

But rents won't repay massive mortgages if the uk goes into recession.

So carney and project fear mongers were wrong predicting recession after the vote and emergency budget?

ww you can't flick between arguments because it suits your cause.

Why would you think we're going into a recession if our future is so bright?

As even Phillip Hammond has pointed out, the post brexit economic models went out the window the moment Cameron did not declare article 50.

And I don't accept your responses at all.

That's fine but could you tell me why.

And why are we seeing solid growth now - why was carney wrong about that?

Why were business confidence pmi indicators steady if not good last month?

Why are remainers saying 'but we haven't left yet' when all the forecasts of disaster were predicated on a brexit vote and the expected uncertainty, not brexit itself?

Why do remainers object to the government encouraging businesses to stay and possibly offering deals to further encourage them?

Why do you think the uk is unable to forge trade deals outside the Eu? Why do you think eu policies a are trying to be punitive at the expense of their own citizens prosperity? Why do you think populations of countries like Austria and Denmark are tempted? Why do you think we need to belong to the single market to prosper? Why is an unlimited supply of labour good for wages and how does an unlimited demand for housing keep rents down?

I didnt flick between argument: I responded to your responses.

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Gideon why don't you wArn bear about unpleasantness now she admitted it.

Don't start on me.
Why don't you answer the original point I made which elicited such an aggressive response from you?
To save you searching for it, my point was... apparently it's okay for surfer - I'm fairly rich, I live in a smart part of London, my ds is privately educated - to "have an understanding", whilst deriding journalists (who may or may not have Tuscan villas) for expressing opinions. The latter, apparently, write "sanctimonius crap", while surfer has "an understanding" of the issues of poorer people. Glad we've got that sorted.

To which you respond: Gideon did you not object to the 'inane twaddle hysterical racist bigot fucking ivory towers' thing.

If you have no response to a point someone is making, don't respond, but what is the point of replying aggressively with a quote-that-never-was? That's pretty goady IMO.

Why does the WTO boss, once a remainer, now say brexit trade will not be disrupted? Why do remainers have such contempt for a public mandate?

Gideon why don't you wArn bear about unpleasantness now she admitted it.

I wasn't as unpleasant as you've been.

The worst I said was there are an element of Leavers who are racist bigots- which is true

And that a poster didn't discuss the issues on here but posted inane twaddle, which was true although she did enter into discussions after that

Also that you and surfer are in ivory towers which is true, you've both said you're wealthy but think you know what's best for the poorer communities without saying why you're so well equipped to make this judgements.

Or are we starting a new game of making up sentences using words in people's posts to make the most unpleasant comment?

You started on me. You generated this exchange between us. For which i do not thank you.

You were more unpleasant to other posters and then you harangued me.

I have answered so many wuestions about my hopes for brexit, why I voted brexit, what is happening now, what could be done to help poor communities, what my experience is of deprivation. I have answered so many questions.

The Bank of England has under estimate growth for at least 2 of this years 3 quarters. It's done it several times before, most notably in the run up to the last general election. It's better to have a more cautious economy than an over ambitious one, especially if you value planning which you apparently do.

You don't have to be an economist to understand than modelling on a set of events falls down when the event does not take place. There was no fear mongering campaigning regarding what would happen if article 50 wasn't invoked because that apparently wasn't an alternative.

Wrt to government aid for businesses its highly dependent on what they are. In a post brexit world, the current economic models that show it working require less state intervention.

I'm going this is too horrible. Thanks to informal surfer boink and others for the conversation.

I didn't even read your magi but thank you for putting the effort in. Ethan's others will read and appreciate.

Ethan's= perhaps