To continue to wonder who is happy with where Brexit is heading

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Whilst I'm sure Leavers will undoubtedly think AIBU the last thread filled up so here's another 1000 opportunities to discuss what you think about where Brexit is heading.

Yes, I am also interested to hear the upside of this. Being told it will all be ok in a couple of years doesn't really offset the damage being done right now. My dh works for an international science based organisation which started feeling very real effects on 24/06 - we are really bemused by the people who tell us it is all ok. I do respect it was a free vote, I also respect the result but I just don't understand people who say everything will be ok in areas which are already feeling the negative impact of it.

mumzy no, in fairness you haven't. But that's all I hear from Brexiters - the freedom from all the EU 'interference'. I was asking your reasons and what positives you see though. Do you plan to answer?

"Pound is falling off a cliff". "Australia deals massive blow to Brexit" "UK heading for Brexit tsunami"
Just today's gloomy news being piled on top of all the other depressing news since Brexit.
Yes mumzy, please cheer us all up with your positives. Maybe we can all feel better then.

And yesterday Microsoft hiked their prices which will add 10% to IT department budgets in every company in the UK. I wonder how many will have to lose staff to cover the cost ? (not ours. Yet).

Who really knows where Brexit is heading though?

I voted in and was gutted when the vote was revealed. Other than some heated debates in work the couple of days after (seriously one opposing pair nearly ended up in a fight) I don't think i've heard anyone in RL mention it since.

I can't be arsed to care or worry tbh. What happens will happen, it's out of my control so i'll just go with it.

I'm gutted by Brexit. I have lived and worked in 2 EU countries and am devastated that my kids won't have the same freedom to do so easily (I have no particular skills). The economic effects are starting to be felt even before triggering art 50 with the weak pound. family members work in unis and limits on foreign students means that their jobs are at risk. I'm trying to see something to be happy about, but failing miserably.

Microsoft hiking prices by 22%, apple and other companies to follow. The pound plummeting. Lack of opportunities to study abroad for our children. Inflation alerts. Frozen investment and recruitment.

What isn't there to love?

Actually Paintingisfun I don't owe you any explanation, not sure why you think I do? And I don't know anything about your husband's company or the decisions he has made so would not comment on that. The OPs question was who is happy with where Brexit is going....we are not even out yet so nobody really knows what the long term effects are going to be....thats common sense surely? At the moment we have some dips in economy (that's sadly inevitable)and some threats from banks, but no one can look in a crystal ball and second guess what's going to happen five or ten years from now. I still stand by my vote. This site is a forum, not a bullying site..just because I have a different view to you doesn't mean I'm smug? More and more these threads become an argument, people haranguing other people if they don't have the same beliefs. And Valentine2, you don't know what's going to happen any more than the rest if us.

Can anyone tell me what would have happened had the vote been to stay? There was no status quo to vote for, and it wasn't all going to just trolley along as before. No-one could tell me definitively where we would be in 10 years had we stayed in, so why expect those who voted leave to do the same?

"British soft power is exactly where DfID (the Department for International Development) and our aid and other relationships around the world come together to deliver in our national interest and deliver for Britain when it comes to free trade agreements but also life post-Brexit."

I'm not sure if swapping/witholding aid for trade deals is just how low the government is willing to sink or an take this as the government indirectly saying we're just going to have to blackmail other's into free trade agreements because we've got nothing else.

scary very true, nobody could tell you where we'd be in 10 years, but most of us can tell you where we wouldn't be right now or where we wouldn't be headed in an exceptionally rapid pattern.

Mumzy I don't think anyone's haranguing you. You stated there were lots of possibilities and opportunities post Brexit and we're just asking you to give some examples.
scary it could absolutely have been the status quo - any change in the EU needs all member states to agree, so nothing would have changed without our agreement. Now (or at least after A50), on the other hand, we will have no say at all in what happens right next door.

I am not sure what all these threads villifying leave voters are actually for, or why you can't keep them in the Brexit area. Enjoy telling everyone how shit everything is and how none of it is anything to do with you.

I don't think anyone is vilifying Leave voters. We are just pointing out the negative things that are already happening and asking what the potential upsides might be - because we haven't seen any yet.

The first negative I saw was my DDs being told to 'fuck off back to your own country' at school. Fortunately the school came down like a tonne of bricks, but it was appalling and a real shock in a country I have always thought of as decent.

mumzy
To be fair, I don't want to brag in the presence of posters who know very much about how a country's economy is run but I can confidently tell you about my field of work (STEM): we are FUCKED. Couple or so days ago I heard about the plan of another really big institute going bust because no one wants to invest in a country that is closing its borders to free movement of talent across Europe. Since then I am kind of avoiding to discuss any such thing with anyone in my field. To keep my stress levels down.

I would like to hear some positive news from Mumzy too. It's not looking that great from where I am standing.

But Cardiback, I don't need to give you examples....I had my vite, you had yours...it would be difficult to second guess, as I have been saying nobody, not even you, can tell anyone what will happen in the future. What I can say is that there are opportunities and positives in EVERY situation....you may not want to see it, or believe it, but it is true and it will happen. If you (not u personally) look for doom and gloom you will find it.....just like I will find positives. Just because I may see my cup as half full does not mean I have to explain why to those who see theirs as half empty....just a bit fed up if hearing "we are Doomed" and we are "fkd" all the time. I do not know what will happen in the future and you do not know either!!

And ps, Brexit does not mean borders are shut does it? People have always moved across countries and borders, and worked all around the world, even before the EU?

I suspect even the WM government still doesn't know how it's going to work out. So me not knowing and not being happy about it is no big surprise. Being in the northern provinces, there might be hope of something different eventually, but the thought of another fecking referendum scares me - even though I will vote for said northern province to leave the Union. It is all a huge mess.

I am so annoyed that I have decided to have no more contact with BIL and SIL who voted for Brexit. I'm not bothered if DH has contact with his stupid brother, but he can do so without me. I've not actually spelt this out to DH but i imagine he'll not be surprised. We live several hundred mils apart so we don't see much of them anyway.

And Cardiback, by constantly asking me, is actually haranguing me...leave me alone please and go and fight with someone else.

Did you get a score from the last thread?

It was roughly 90% No v 10% Yes at the last count

I think it's a shame you didn't also ask which way people voted as well because it's only Leave voters views that matter in the UK now so it's more significant whether they're happy or not

I didn't do that because I don't think anyone who voted to Leave will admit the aren't happy.

Thank goodness MN is in no way representative of the population at large.

wasonthelist I don't understand why people always pop up saying a thread about Brexit should be moved out of their line of vision.

• this is the biggest thing that has happened in most of our lifetimes

• you don't have to click on the thread

• AIBU is a general section- every thread could probably be filed under another section of MN but it isn't

If you don't like it, don't look or post.

Thank goodness MN is in no way representative of the population at large.

brexit could you offer any more insight than that?

If you are happy with the situation, could you tell us why?

Whatever I say you will pick holes in and disparage.

Banks leaving. Proved not to be the case.

Manufacturers leaving. Nissan have said they will continue to build cars in Sunderland.

Research stopped. A cancer research specialist said he had been stopped by the eu. I did post a link on another thread.

Weak pound has improved exports.

Personally I think the EU is a crock of shit that needed a rocket up its arse. Free market yes. Ever closer Union no thanks.

But I do enjoy all the self congratulatory smuggery on these threads.

Pick away.