To continue to wonder who is happy with where Brexit is heading

[Bearbehind]

Whilst I'm sure Leavers will undoubtedly think AIBU the last thread filled up so here's another 1000 opportunities to discuss what you think about where Brexit is heading.

'Not a single one stands up to scrutiny'

And 'no true Scotsman'...

Yes there have been reasons but not a single one I've heard stands up to scrutiny

😂

I believe brexit will reduce inequality.

Why do you think that ww?

I think the complete opposite will be the case. Those least able to afford it will bear the brunt of inflation whilst the fat cats will remain unaffected or quite possibly benefit.

What were those comments for surfer and ww?

Show me a reason that has stood up to scrutiny.

Bearbehind
I'm sorry, I just had visions of you questioning everyone for 15 hours before they voted.

Winchester , thing is I did , spoke to loads of people on both sides of the argument , read loads , watched the news ( a variety of channels ) , read newspapers I wouldn't ordinarily buy or read , because I thought this vote was important , so I gathered together all the arguments , trawled through the actual facts and still came to the conclusion I did .

Now , I might not have met you and had any discussions with you , so all I am saying is what was it that the EU did to you that upset you enough to vote leave ? Clearly there was something , so what was it ?

I don't want to speak to rude people I'm sort of not in the mood :/

However we recognise that we are not the ones who will be most affected and we don't want to live in a society where the disparity of wealth is more extreme than it already is - and Brexit will ultimately have that affect although I am not in any position to make any clever arguments to that effect

Frank Field Labour MP
www.frankfield.com/latest-news/news.aspx?p=1021270

Vote Leave to help the poor in Britain
There is a school of belief which quite naturally draws upon compassion to justify the opportunities given to millions of people from the EU to start a new life here. But compassion demands that we consider as a priority the impact that so many new arrivals has on our poorest citizens’ chances of securing the ever scarcer necessities in life — a place at a decent school for their children, a home that they can afford to rent or buy, and swift access to healthcare.

A lethal combination, since 2010, of public-expenditure cuts and unrestricted immigration from the EU has already diminished our poorest citizens’ choices in this regard. Remaining in the EU will, I fear, bring a continued erosion in their living standards.

It is inconceivable that house prices and rents will fall, that the number of school places will expand, and that pressure on local health services will ease, in communities that are at the sharp end of unlimited immigration. An ever-growing portion of our national wealth — we know not how much — will be required to accommodate an unknown and unlimited number of newcomers.

The Prime Minister has failed from the inside to secure any concessions that would limit the number of newcomers to this country. Compassion toward the weakest members of our society, therefore, demands that we vote to leave the EU.

Lol! ww Why am I now a rude person?

I asked you a polite question in response to your comment about why you think Brexit will even out inequality- why can't you answer it?

Yeah, sorry, autumn the forrin folks aren't the ones putting the strain on the public purse.

Damn that is a scary excerpt. Jesus.

bloody hell autumn, you've shown your true colours now.

How are those pesky foreigners to blame for the plunge in sterling and imminent hike in inflation that will affect the poorest in the country far more than the richest?

I think Frank explains quite well the issues faced by the poor in his constituency - which is one of the most deprived in the UK.

I can't remember if you were rude to me but it's just general:/

Ok then ww could you tell me why you think Brecit will even out inequality?

Autumn there was the patrick collinson in the guardian too

autumn could you or Frank tell us how inflation will not affect the very same poor in that constituency

Yes, Frank Field does a good job of acknowledging that underspending has a big part to play then ignoring that going forward something could be done to address austerity and instead claiming that getting rid of the foreigners will solve the problems

Love frank field. He nails it.

FFS ww. You just said you think Brexit will lead to less inequality.

Why are you insisting on ignoring my request for reasons why?

I'm sorry but I'm not in the mood for your tone. I think if you dismiss frank field you can only be asking me for goady reasons and to pick a fight. You aren't that interested really. It's not genuine.

ww Not liking my tone is a pathetic excuse.

I asked you about your thoughts on why Brexit will solve inequality
before Frank field was even mentioned so that's a pitiful argument too.

If you could back up your claims you would, if only to shut me up.

I'm beyond frustrated with this continual ploy by Leavers on here to avoid answering perfectly reasonable questions about comments they make.

So Frank Field thinks his constituents have a hard time because of immigrants.

Which ones are those? The ones that don't live in his constituency, don't take the housing or jobs in his constituency, and don't take up education or heath services in his constituency?

www.ilivehere.co.uk/statistics-birkenhead-wirral-3673.html

All I can conclude is that either a) he himself can't think of anything more creative to blame for poverty in his constituency or b) he does actually know but is parroting his constituents who can't think of any other reasons their lives are a mess.

It's not an excuse it's a reason and you just confirmed what I thought. The other reason was because if you can dismiss frank field, it's just goady to ask me.

bear Clearly, given the Frank Field quote, ww feels foreigners cause inequality and austerity is fine as long as we don't need to accommodate anyone foreign.

ww I didn't dismiss FF, I asked how reducing immigration protects the poor from Brexit induced inflation?