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To continue to wonder who is happy with where Brexit is heading

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Bearbehind · 25/10/2016 15:44

Whilst I'm sure Leavers will undoubtedly think AIBU the last thread filled up so here's another 1000 opportunities to discuss what you think about where Brexit is heading.

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TheElementsSong · 28/10/2016 19:22

I'm wishing for the complete opposite.

Me too, I've said this before. If from selfishness if nothing else my home, my life, my family is here - I really hope that my concerns are wrong and everything turns out as wonderfully as the Leavers say it will.

crazycatguy · 28/10/2016 19:27

I wonder where Brexit is happening, however in my experience, the mere hint of challenge to it results in:

  1. Being daubed a traitor
  2. Being told you have no confidence in Britain.
  3. Being told that we're leaving 'so shut up'
  4. Being told I should be subject to the death penalty.

I voted Remain as I was desperately alarmed at the scapegoating of immigrants for all the UK's ills. I am open to Brexit as now we're going to have to solve all the ills we previously blamed on our EU membership.

MagikarpetRide · 28/10/2016 19:34

larry I wish more people remembered that. And by more I mean the people I know who keep bleating about what a glorious time it was.

crazy don't be silly, they'll just find another scapegoat, and another and another. The Latin around the £1 coin should be changed to 'when in power never own up to your own shit' Grin

autumnintheair · 28/10/2016 19:37

well yes surfer they usually are saying that - they read bus slogans on the NHS and then they back that up with knowledge gleaned from the Mail and only the mail.

No Bear, I probably didnt make myself clear, the actual campaign to Remain the in rotting failed state of the EU was based on negatives.

There were no, are no positives to remain in the EU. There are smaller positives to remain, there are without a doubt some positives, however overall the project is in dire straights in almost every single way it functions.

autumnintheair · 28/10/2016 19:38

I wish more people remembered that. And by more I mean the people I know who keep bleating about what a glorious time it was

I don't remember it but I have been told about it by my DP who do - they still voted out.

MagikarpetRide · 28/10/2016 19:43

That's marvellous autumn, not that whichever way you voted has an impact on whether you felt those times were glorious or not.

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Bearbehind · 28/10/2016 19:48

autumn if there are no benefits staying in the EU could you name 3 benefits to leaving.

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Bearbehind · 28/10/2016 19:51

Remainers.
Why do you think so many people voted to leave? even the people of Sunderland?

surfer we have no fucking idea- I'd have thought you'd grasped that by now.

We know some votes were cast by racist bigots but, as for the rest, we're struggling to answer that.

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surferjet · 28/10/2016 19:55

I have grasped it, I'm asking for your opinion. If the EU is so great, why did so many want to leave?

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Bearbehind · 28/10/2016 19:59

How can Remainers answer that? We don't agree.

I'm quite tickled that your new found way of enagaging on these threads is to ask us why you think what you think.

It's hysterical.

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LuluJakey1 · 28/10/2016 20:03

My cousin works in the City in London and his company have picked up new contracts from Germany since Brexit. His bonus has increased (don't know by how much but more than he expected).
I am still glad I voted to leave. Nothing has changed my mind so far.

frumpet · 28/10/2016 20:05

Winchester and Autumn , I gave the reason I voted remain further up the thread , and admitted it was purely selfish in that I genuinely couldn't see how being a member of the 'EU' had had any negative impact on my or the lives of those I cared about .

Now I am not so lacking in empathy to be able to understand that other people thought differently to me , clearly 17 million did , otherwise this thread wouldn't exist ! All I have asked , as a genuine question is what the people who voted leave thought that the 'EU' had done, that had negatively impacted their lives ?

We have discussed the idea of ' mass uncontrolled immigration' and I still do not believe that any immigration be it EU or non EU is uncontrolled , regardless of your very entertaining analogies Winchester Wink

I really do want to believe that all is going to be tickety boo , I want the UK to sail through this with only the slightest of flesh wounds , I want all the people I care about to have no significant impact on their lives as a result of the No vote , I want to go back to being proud of loving my country , with all its foibles and faults and excentricties and fabulous landscapes . I love this mad as a box of frogs UK , I love the people from the tippety top , people of Scrabster and beyond and the very gorgeous bitty bottom , Cornwall ! I have you on my bucket list Northern Island for fear you might think I am leaving you out ! Wales you astound me in your breadth of history and beaches and mountains , i cwtch you all Grin

If you voted No , please just give me a reason to hope , throw me a proper hardcore fact why the 'EU' has created harm to you and your family , that way I can empathise and understand Confused

WinchesterWoman · 28/10/2016 20:07

It's true that remainers have no idea except for racism. Any claims to be on the side of poorer or working people are meaningless as they have no idea what they want.

WinchesterWoman · 28/10/2016 20:09

As evidenced by their insistence that immigration is controlled. See this white piece of paper? It's actually black.

frumpet · 28/10/2016 20:09

Ireland , aaaaaaaaargh Wink

WinchesterWoman · 28/10/2016 20:10

If you want everything to be tickety boo your view is not shared by all remainers.

frumpet · 28/10/2016 20:15

Winchester you make me chortle , you really do ! Poorer , working , well I tick both those boxes , no savings and live in rented accomodation , although I suppose the Queen does too Wink

Immigration is controlled into this country , unless all those lovely people at passport control are just serving their community sentence ?? Hang on , now there's an idea Grin

WinchesterWoman · 28/10/2016 20:18

How come you don't understand then? Did you talk to no one and read nothing?

Immigration is not controlled. I'm happy to see your mood is lightening though.

surferjet · 28/10/2016 20:21

I'm quite tickled that your new found way of enagaging on these threads is to ask us why you think what you think

Eh? what does that even mean?
I know what I think, I'm asking remainers what they think.
If the EU is so great why did so many want to leave?
If no one knows then fair enough. But if you don't know why people voted leave then you really need to do a bit more research before coming out with ridiculous sweeping statements.

BoinkAlongQuietly · 28/10/2016 20:22

That's great lulu we are just fine too. Our income has increased as well. However we recognise that we are not the ones who will be most affected and we don't want to live in a society where the disparity of wealth is more extreme than it already is - and Brexit will ultimately have that affect although I am not in any position to make any clever arguments to that effect.

larry sorry for slow reply - discussion has moved on - we've been in transit today so not online. But if you don't mind returning to your previous comment.

How could we hedge our personal finances? We have homes in the USA and Europe while it's still tenable, obviously the cost has increased considerably due to decline of the GBP.

Likewise our neighbour's UK pension has dropped 20% which means they can't live 6 months a year in OZ without letting their U.K. Home out - not something they really want to do.

I know it's a luxury of a problem but do tell how we can hedge against further decline as the GBP fx forecast looks bleak.

MagikarpetRide · 28/10/2016 20:24

It is amusing isn't it frumpet
See this spade, its not a garden implement because I use it as a part of my building business, therefore its cannot be anything but a building tool. Grin

WinchesterWoman · 28/10/2016 20:25

Boink: interesting: I believe brexit will reduce inequality.

larrygrylls · 28/10/2016 20:27

Boink,

You hedge by selling gbp forward. Google any fx broker and they can advise.

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Bearbehind · 28/10/2016 20:27

surfer we all know what you think. Your vote fell into the racist bigot Category.

I have know idea why most other Leavers voted as they did.

These threads have tried for months to 'research' why people voted as they did.

Yes there have been reasons but not a single one I've heard stands up to scrutiny.

Reasons people wanted to leave are only valid if they will actually be realised by leaving.

I could have voted Remsin because I wanted a white Christmas- doesn't mean it will happen.

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frumpet · 28/10/2016 20:28

I really do think that the vast majority of remainers do want it all to be tickety boo , it is just that they are struggling to see how . All anyone has to do is say why the EU is a very bad thing , how it has made their lives difficult , harder etc .

Northern Ireland , I apologise , DH chose the moment I was typing to come through and ask my opinion on a selection of buy 3 , pay for 2 , a well known supermarket chain has started today , and one of those toys had the word Island in it and I did a brain fart Blush