AIBU to think that if you commit an adult crime you shouldn't receive anonymity

[Ohbehave1]

After hearing that both of the children involved in the murder of a mother and daughter have been found guilty I think that they if they were adult enough murder someone, and then go and watch films and have sex after that they should be old enough to be named after.

Their crimes were particularly nasty, and as such they should live with the consequences for the rest of their lives. They certainly shouldn't be able to do a few years and then get out with anonymity and start their lives as if nothing ever happened.

With what is out in the public domain, it is evident that the girl manipulated the boy in to committing the crimes.

The boy obviously was not the most ingratiated pupil at school, . The girl took advantage of the boy's maladjustment to education (the boy had been expelled from the school due to a table throwing incident among other things no doubt). The girl through her 'superior' IQ was able to twist the 'besotted' boy round her little finger to do whatever she wanted.

The boy was not 'emotionally' mature enough to decide his actions , this again is evidenced by the boy continually asking the girl for directing the crime. The boys emotional and academic intelligence can also be confirmed by the fact the authorities have given him a coloring book for 5 year old's in his cell.

However, the biggest issue is these two 'people' have committed a crime that goes far past any reasoned that 'maturity' or lack of it was a mitigating factor.

The 'mitigating' factor must be a defining factor in deciding whether children who commit offences should have life long anonymity for their crime.

Also the likely hood that the child who had comitted an offence could become in time a reasonable member of the community.

This is not a possible outcome for these two, they are 'evil' .

Some people are born 'Evil' and in some circumstances or chance meeting of minds this will come out with horrific crimes.

There is massive reason why they have been granted anonymity. You can find it easily.

People will only find out if they actively go looking for it. The vast majority of people will not do that. I asked around various friends and family when we've discussed this case, not a single person had any idea who the teenagers were. The anonymity made sense to them because of their age.

Whilst the information will never be a state secret, they will never be as infamous as other murderers. Their names and faces will mean nothing to most people.

Who knows if they will ever be released, that won't be decided until they near the end of their sentence. By that time, they will have spent the majority of the life behind bars.

The concept of 'evil' is an interesting one. I do wonder what happened to that girl in her life, that meant she ended up that way. Could anything have been done earlier to have prevented such tragic outcomes? How do you identify evil, at what age can you identify it, and what can you do when you find it?

It is interesting though isn't it, the way the media has treated this case.
Firstly the reporting made no sense until you figure out the connections and then the way that one victim is portrayed in the media is so different to how they are portrayed in court. Both versions can't be true.

I think the people commenting on the poor messed up girl whilst praising the poor victim will be shocked when they think about it. I know I was.

One thing i do know from evidence i have seen is that the girl was 'loved' by her family !

'EVIL' is in some people .

Imagine if these two people had met each other at 22 instead of 13 !
You might have had a Myra Hindley and Ian Brady .

Therefore Evil is present in some people and circumstances or the meeting of similar minds can mean horrific crimes are enacted.

Most people with the potential of comitting 'Evil' acts will not go on to commit them due to the fact that circumstances or meeting of similar minds do not occur.

Most people who commit evil acts do not require the participation of other people. If they had met when they were older, perhaps either one of them would have been more mature and emotionally stable. These murders were very different to Hindley & Brady.

One thing i do know from evidence i have seen is that the girl was 'loved' by her family !
There is no meaningful evidence that you could have seen that would really tell you if that girl felt loved by her family. She spent time in care - that happened for a reason.

Not prepared to tell you where i have seen the evidence suggesting she came from a happy and caring family, for obvious reasons..

It's irrelevant where you have seen this "evidence" or what it even is.
You were not living in that house and you are not her. You have no idea how she felt.
The family could well have loved her, but that doesn't mean all was well in her house. Something went very wrong for her to end up spending time in care.

She attempted suicide just months before this happened. She'd also run away from home. Her boyfriend was very disturbed and they were locked into a very unhealthy alliance. She was clearly a very disturbed girl.